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Author Topic: re: energy producing experiments  (Read 94666 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #330 on: March 20, 2022, 11:18:30 AM »
IancaIV, what point are you trying to make? Let us look at context:
Using online calculators:
https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/free-fall
https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/physics/gravitational-potential.php
https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/physics/kinetic.php

The 140KG falls from 0.25m to achieve this speed. (343 J)
1kg can rise to 35m at 26.24 kgm/s, which also costs 344 J
There is a difference in momentum, bu where is the energy gain?
So unless I am missing something, it takes 51,200 J to "place" 310 units of momentum on 1kg. How did we magically transfer 310 units of momentum from a 140kg at 2.21m/s mass to a 1kg mass at 310m/s?

                            " 310 units of momentum and you only need 26.24 units " :  310/26,24 = ?
                            https://overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg564829/#new

Short answered about "..... we magically transfer ....." . 

magica,mysteria,Magister,Meister,Master             M.S.A. :   Master Science Administration ~ kybernetes

I can,if You want to introduce Yourself in deeper hyper/deeper physics ,in"Quantum-Mechanics"-Logics explain ,similar ,
                                                 but animistic language,less " swollen ":
https://www.google.com/search?q=stephen+hawking&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=APq-WBsymqOZRsoVgTxAIse7P4c6HbEUeA%3A1647771334635&ei=xv42YvapJoj87_UPtYW7sAg&ved=0ahUKEwj2pMnIutT2AhUI_rsIHbXCDoYQ4dUDCA0&oq=stephen+hawking&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAwyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEc6BwgAEEcQsANKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQughYughg3BZoAXACeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz


                                                                           String to Point-Matrix
                                                                   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urelement
                              C.Colombo : chicken or egg                      hyper/deeper physics Dualism:   spin or point

or,going 50 years back to its/his,Otto Stein,first publication date :

german,deutscher,Sprache/language : international -multilingual -traduction available doing ?
https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/view/20184764/otto-stein-die-zukunft-der-technik-pdf

Sincerely and a sinfull Sunday wishing
OCWL

Offline Delburt Phend

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #331 on: April 25, 2022, 06:33:06 PM »
What do you think of Destin's evaluation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnaASTBn_K4

Offline Kator01

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #332 on: May 03, 2022, 12:41:03 AM »
Delburt
Excellent find.You are a keen observer. I am amazed of the different possibilities to fully transfer momentum of of a big mass to a much smaller one.
Lets calculate:
Mass of the knot including the fluffy part about 2 gr = 0.002 kg
Minimum Velocity according to Wikipedia: v = 342.2 m/sec at T = 20  degree Celsius


E_kin = 1/2 * 0.002 kg * 117 100.2 m_exp2/sec_exp2 = 117.1 Joule.........thats a lot

Remember: The fastest Pitcher can throw a ball 105.5 mph which is about 47 m per second and if you look at the ease with which this woman
                    throws the whip....

https://sportsnaut.com/fastest-pitch-ever-mlb-history/

There is one peculiar thing: as the wave rolles down to the end it stops its wave-like movement about 10 cm before the knot as then
the knot is accellerated to full speed like the head of a serpent.
Why that ?
Question : would the sound barrier be reached if the wave would roll down to the end ?
There is a small element in the construction of the last part of the whip which makes it work and these "smart three engineers have not figured it out,
they fully missed a key element of the "faster that sound-speed-function" in their experiment.
I will not reveal it...its a good excercise for sharpening ones observation-skills.


I call it "The serpents bite"


Mike_G

Offline Delburt Phend

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #333 on: May 03, 2022, 03:53:38 AM »
There is one point in the video (smarter every day) where they say that the sound barrier is broken before the end; that might put the mass at around 20 grams. Also think of the air resistance you would get at these speeds.

Offline Kator01

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #334 on: May 03, 2022, 11:41:08 PM »
Delburt,


everthing is normal, see here:


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cberschallflug#/media/Datei:Shockwave_pattern_around_a_T-38C_observed_with_Background-Oriented_Schlieren_photography_(1).jpg


and the compare to first and second picture


Now the third pic : what does this woman hold between their fingers ?
with the fourth pic : what does the corde look like shortly before the bang


Mike_G




Offline Kator01

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #335 on: May 04, 2022, 12:08:54 AM »
also I noticed recurring discussions whether formulas "moment of inertia" or "momentum" should be used . We dont need any further discussion on this as moment of inertia in the cylinder & the spheres experiment is not involved for any further calculations as the spheres - after getting all the momentum -  are freely rotating and do not create any torque via a spoke to the axis.


Its just simple as that. I have built a simple setup with a small flywheel from an old record player ( eighties) and can confirm the full-stop of the wheel if
the small mass is out at 90 degress. I used just one small mass. It will take me a longer time to build the complete setup as I need the assistance of a mechanic  which has his workshop 25 mile away



Mike_G





Offline Delburt Phend

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Re: re: energy producing experiments
« Reply #336 on: May 04, 2022, 01:39:51 AM »
At about 2:36 they talk about going supersonics before full extension; so a larger portion of the whip (in addition to the feathered end) must be moving at about the same speed.

Backyard scientist also says they went supersonic with rubber bands and a string. I am still working on that one.