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sm0ky2

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2017, 01:32:57 PM »
Are there any ways that you have found to detect or interact with
This energy, other than a human 'feeling' something?


Do your eyes have to be open to feel the energy?
Or can it be 'felt' without seeing the image or even knowing it's there?


Perhaps a bio-electrical stimulator could provide a machine interface
That may allow us to measure the energy.
Advances in artificial nerve cells and synthetic nervous system connections
could prove useful in this area

conradelektro

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2017, 09:29:04 PM »

Beware of aether22, he is a false prohet!


What he blasphemously calls "aetheric energy", is the primordial energy (Ur-Energie or Urgan in German, or énergie originelle in French). This energy always existed and predates the big bang. It eventually creates life after a cosmos has been brought into existence by a big bang.


Knowledge of the promordial energy and its use and application is carefully guarded by a secret order. Aether22 is not initiated in this order.


I am not allowed to tell you more. Do not interact with aether22, you will be misled. It is a primitiv scam.


Greetings, Conrad
« Last Edit: January 29, 2017, 12:38:31 AM by conradelektro »

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2017, 09:45:20 PM »

I am of course not a member of the secret order and I do not know anything about the primordial energy. But I got a lot of money to convey the above message. So, do not shoot the messenger.


Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2017, 11:06:11 PM »
No stone left unturned !

http://rexresearch.com/pomerleau/pomerleau.htm

to say we know all there is to know about these things would be ignorant ?

I would usually say to have Prejudice with out investigation is also ignorant ?

Just one mans opinion !




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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2017, 12:03:52 AM »

May be Mr. Pomerlau (http://rexresearch.com/pomerleau/pomerleau.htm) could tap into the primordial energy. If he could do that, he should not have shown it in public.


If Pomerlau really could do it, he may have stumbled upon it by chance or by help of his special gift. But it looks like the secret order stepped in and prevented that something conclusive ever came to light. This is typical, nothing harsh is done, but it will forever remain a mystery.


Be aware, the secret order does not prevent free energy or OU. But the knowledge about the primordial energy has to stay a secret. The military or powerful corporations would take advantage of it. Humankind would destroy itself and the earth.


The Nazis tried to lift the secret and have been very close. Fortunately the Nazis lost the Second World War and agents of the secret order imbedded in the US army destroyed everything amassed in Germany in a deep bunker in the Obersalzberg http://www.obersalzberg.de/blindschacht.html. People who worked in the project never spoke out. They seemed to be deeply scared and they are long dead.


Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2017, 01:01:49 AM »
Are there any ways that you have found to detect or interact with
This energy, other than a human 'feeling' something?


Do your eyes have to be open to feel the energy?
Or can it be 'felt' without seeing the image or even knowing it's there?


Perhaps a bio-electrical stimulator could provide a machine interface
That may allow us to measure the energy.
Advances in artificial nerve cells and synthetic nervous system connections
could prove useful in this area
I have not found, nor really looked for an empirical way to detect this energy, my interest in doing so went away almost completely when I found I could feel the energy very effectively.


Of course there are ways that are expensive, such as the modern version of Kirlian photography called GDV I am confident would detect some forms of this energy, but it is prohibitively expensive.


The problem with any means of detection is that I suspect it would be limited to detecting only some portion of this spectrum of energy, it is clear that there is more than one type, and if I made or bought an expensive device to prove it, it does not help me share this discovery as the people I want to share this with don't have that meter that they must spend money on or build.


As for looking at it, sometimes this has been tested and it has been found not to be required.


Now covering up the images is different, this only seems to apply to images (well, I assume) but basically if the design flows energy out of the screen, then that is not blocked by paper.  But there is a replication of the form on the screen that projects out from the screen.  It acts as if the screen projected a coherent beam like a projector, and this beam recreates the dynamics of the design in space in-front of the screen, and this can be blocked by paper.


Now one thing that happens is if regular light reflects off of an energetically charged surface, (such as my watch), the reflected light beam carries energy from the metal.  There is another effect that projects energies along what I term neural zones, so the neutral zones from a circular ring is in the plane of the ring and as a cylindrical projection of that form orthogonal to that plane.  So I gather that what happens is that the aetheric energy and light projected from the screen (or printed or hand drawn image) and light are projected as a package deal much like that reflection from the watch and what blocks the light also blocks the aetheric energy that recreates the form in the space in front of the image.


I believe or strongly suspect that this kind of intertwining between release of regular and aetheric energy in the same space is what manages to mix the to until either the aetheric energy copies the regular energy enough that it becomes or can act as regular energy, or that the aetheric energy is so baked into the regular energy that it gains extraordinary aetheric attributes.
I suspect this this likely requires emission and re-absorption of the compounded energy many times over.


That is however only a theory, but a sound one that has some real evidence and reason behind it.


There are also ways to demonstrate this energy besides humans feeling things, but they still involve subjective experiences such as taste (change lemon juice or wine to be less bitter), or strength tests or healing.


As for not knowing an image is there, I have not tested this with images, but unpowered coils (remember images are just for those who can't be bothered to build a coil) there have been a number of cases where people have had little to no information but reported feeling an energy.
However only one case involved the ultimate test, there a friend had a coil (that was fit inside of a pen looking case) was in his pocket, and someone he was sitting next to in the hospital could feel the energy from it hitting his foot.  It was the ultimate test as this was a stranger and not an intentional test.

I could try and setup something to find more evidence of this, but if the above account and the sensation they can feel in their own hand won't convince them, then my conducting a test won't make them believe, we all know of poorly done studies.


I'm not sure what a bio-electric stimulator is?  At any rate I think that the human energy body interaction is the reason humans feel it.

In short if people are open-minded enough and feel it well enough to be interested then they can be useful and experiment with it and hopefully make discoveries and have success with it.[/size]


If someone is too closed minded or is open minded but can't feel it, then they can be of little help besides financially or in some other supportive roll and
currently those aren't the people I am trying to reach.



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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2017, 01:25:34 AM »
Beware of aether22, he is a false prohet!


What he blasphemously calls "aetheric energy", is the primordial energy (Ur-Energie or Urgan in German, or énergie originelle in French). This energy always existed and predates the big bang. It eventually creates life after a cosmos has been brought into existence by a big bang.


Knowledge of the promordial energy and its use and application is carefully guarded by a secret order. Aether22 is not initiated in this order.


I am not allowed to tell you more. Do not interact with aether22, you will be misled. It is a primitiv scam.


Greetings, Conrad


Who asked (paid) you to say that?  (if you aren't just a troll?)


If you have any way to send communication back to them, ask them to please pay me if they want me to shut-up about this :)
Have them tell me their concerns.


It's funny, because when I first realized what I had discovered over 20 years ago now, I first thought I could never share it with anyone, it was too dangerous.


But then I saw how dangerous ignorance was and how dangerous even simple technology/knowledge could be, if someone wanted to cause chaos, all they would have to do is light fires, or put a botulism in the water supply, or spread mercury and other toxins around.


This energy is called aether among other names, it is also Primodial, I believe it is just what you (or they) said about it being the source of all things, consciousness, life, matter etc...   It is the physics of the ultimate, able to bend the rules of physics, likely including space and time.  It is also the energy life runs on.


It gives humans the power of gods, and yes that could go different ways.  Ideally I would start a Utopian society that would develop and use this energy with the highest ethics.  But I do not have the charisma, or money, nor do I have it all solved enough to even have the time.


I am sure my understanding of this stuff is incomplete, so I could be a false profit, sure, I'm not perfect.  But I'm not a scammer as I am not asking for money.
Heck, I should be keeping this knowledge greedily to myself until I have the credit for developing Free Energy and Antigravity.
Instead I am giving others a chance to pip me to the finish line after I have done the hard work for 20 years to understand this stuff.
With the likes of Chet it's clear I'm not entierly casting pearls before swine.

For the record I do not believe that a secret order exists (outside of the Jesuits/Illuminati/Military Industrial Complex/Satanists who have this tech and are the last ones who should), not that there aren't those who try and suppress this stuff, for the most part they only seem to do so when this gets to be too present a threat to someone apple cart such as Free Energy or Antigravity or health.  Currently I am avoiding attacking anyone's apple cart.




Note: A message such as that from conradelektro, it would if real would actually be to encourage support to me.
If there were such an order, they would know that a statement by people trying to stop such research would appear as what is is, an attempt at suppression of genuine research. And this would result in pretty predictable reverse psychological effect.   Now of course no one would pay someone to leave a dumb comment as registering an account is free, so it is surely bogus.   Too bad, it would be awesome to have a secret group trying to help me.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2017, 10:43:26 AM by aether22 »

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2017, 04:26:54 AM »
aether22 have you ever checked out Joe Parrs work on pyramids ( easily accessible on internet ), he believed he had a way of measuring the energy. As for me I looked into it but his work went way over my head and my financial means to try and replicate but I thought his work might be of interest to you if you haven't already heard of him.

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2017, 05:07:21 AM »
overcurrent, yes I am aware of him finding resistance changes and such.


I long researched means to measure this kind of energy before I had a reliable way to generate it.


But I am not interested enough in using his methods, they might work, but I am also aware of many catches that would apply.


You see one way this energy works is that this energy is recorded when you make something, it is captured in the device you construct.


As such the coil (he used a coil of many turns and measured the resistance) would be charged as I make it, and it would only measure some energy types I suspect.


It would be not near as good at measuring this energy and as such even if it worked would probably be far inferior to what someone (most people) could just feel.


I get that from a hard science point of view this sounds crazy, why surely you need a meter.   But to me the only interesting thing about a meter is that it would tell me something about the interface between aether and matter that could maybe be turned into a useful effect.


IMO a meter is interesting, and it would be invaluable if I couldn't feel the energy at all or well. But since I can it's more of a red hearing.


If the sensations were at a level where they were subjective at all, again a meter would be good, but the energy is often problematically strong and painful to me, and it is near that strong to a number of people.

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2017, 05:55:54 AM »
I know what you mean by some people being able to feel it, my father is an excellent dowser and when the stick points to the ground finding water there is a real force exerted on the stick that he let me feel by trying to push the stick back up and I could see it was nothing he was doing with his own muscles and it is funny how my sister can do it also but I don't have much luck with it. Just something I have never been able to figure out.

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2017, 06:37:25 AM »
I know what you mean by some people being able to feel it, my father is an excellent dowser and when the stick points to the ground finding water there is a real force exerted on the stick that he let me feel by trying to push the stick back up and I could see it was nothing he was doing with his own muscles and it is funny how my sister can do it also but I don't have much luck with it. Just something I have never been able to figure out.


Yes, but I would note that I can't dowse to save myself.


Also I spent 17 years trying this stuff and couldn't feel energy when I tried to.


While it's possible that something about me might have changed, primarily I don't think that has as much to do with it.
I think the breakthrough came in creating a source of aetheric energy that was nor trivial.


While some people are insensitive to even quite large degrees of energy, most people don't know that they can feel energy!
And they don't know it because they have not been exposed to it.


If most people could feel a level of energy that was easy to encounter, then it wouldn't be a a fringe thing that science rejects out of hand.


I'm not special, most people can feel energy.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2017, 09:19:00 AM by aether22 »

sm0ky2

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2017, 08:16:47 AM »
I'm one of those people that can't see the 3D images posters
Even the simple ones, or the complex ones, or the ones with
little hidden animals...


My eyes don't do that


As far as 'feeling' the energy, personally I have to leave that
for the monks, and people with patience and some sort of
'connection' with things I know nothing about.


For me I need to know things. I have means to detect things
In whatever spectrum(s) necessary, what I don't have right now
Is access to a printer, or large screen to reproduce these
'energy emitting' images.


Even if the energy were not detectable by normal means
There are ways to interface to living (or no longer living)
organic tissues to serve as a means for detection.


If it can be 'felt' by us, then it can be observed in other manners.


At least that's my thoughts on it.

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2017, 09:18:26 AM »
I'm one of those people that can't see the 3D images posters
Even the simple ones, or the complex ones, or the ones with
little hidden animals...


My eyes don't do that


As far as 'feeling' the energy, personally I have to leave that
for the monks, and people with patience and some sort of
'connection' with things I know nothing about.


For me I need to know things. I have means to detect things
In whatever spectrum(s) necessary, what I don't have right now
Is access to a printer, or large screen to reproduce these
'energy emitting' images.


Even if the energy were not detectable by normal means
There are ways to interface to living (or no longer living)
organic tissues to serve as a means for detection.


If it can be 'felt' by us, then it can be observed in other manners.


At least that's my thoughts on it.
Well if you are willing to give some of those things a try as time and means allows, send me an email at berry.john22@gmail.com and I'll send you an email with images and coil designs.


Also, I would ask that you spend at least a minute or 2 giving it a go, sure you might not feel anything, plenty of people don't (with images, about half), but maybe it's worth a shot.










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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2017, 11:57:43 AM »
Who asked (paid) you to say that?  (if you aren't just a troll?)

If you have any way to send communication back to them, ask them to please pay me if they want me to shut-up about this :)
Have them tell me their concerns.

I can not tell even if I wanted to. I have no trace back to the secret order. (I also can do bold statements, it is for free. Words are easy, they just tumble out.)

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It's funny, because when I first realized what I had discovered over 20 years ago now, I first thought I could never share it with anyone, it was too dangerous.

But then I saw how dangerous ignorance was and how dangerous even simple technology/knowledge could be, if someone wanted to cause chaos, all they would have to do is light fires, or put a botulism in the water supply, or spread mercury and other toxins around.

Very productive 20 years that must have been. Show some results. Of course, proof is for the simple minded, you are beyond proof.

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This energy is called aether among other names, it is also Primodial, I believe it is just what you (or they) said about it being the source of all things, consciousness, life, matter etc...   It is the physics of the ultimate, able to bend the rules of physics, likely including space and time.  It is also the energy life runs on.

It gives humans the power of gods, and yes that could go different ways.  Ideally I would start a Utopian society that would develop and use this energy with the highest ethics.  But I do not have the charisma, or money, nor do I have it all solved enough to even have the time.

Well, well, just repeating what I said.

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I am sure my understanding of this stuff is incomplete, so I could be a false profit, sure, I'm not perfect.  But I'm not a scammer as I am not asking for money.
Heck, I should be keeping this knowledge greedily to myself until I have the credit for developing Free Energy and Antigravity.
Instead I am giving others a chance to pip me to the finish line after I have done the hard work for 20 years to understand this stuff.
With the likes of Chet it's clear I'm not entierly casting pearls before swine.

In order to cast pearls one needs pearls. And you are absolutely right, you do not understand this stuff. First true statement from you.

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For the record I do not believe that a secret order exists (outside of the Jesuits/Illuminati/Military Industrial Complex/Satanists who have this tech and are the last ones who should), not that there aren't those who try and suppress this stuff, for the most part they only seem to do so when this gets to be too present a threat to someone apple cart such as Free Energy or Antigravity or health.  Currently I am avoiding attacking anyone's apple cart.

It does not matter whether the secret order exists. You should prove your silly promises. I do not prove my statements, because I am telling the truth. I am enlightened and that shows how right I am. My truth was given to me by higher forces whom you will never be able to understand.

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Note: A message such as that from conradelektro, it would if real would actually be to encourage support to me.
If there were such an order, they would know that a statement by people trying to stop such research would appear as what is is, an attempt at suppression of genuine research. And this would result in pretty predictable reverse psychological effect.   Now of course no one would pay someone to leave a dumb comment as registering an account is free, so it is surely bogus.   Too bad, it would be awesome to have a secret group trying to help me.

Where is your genuine research? Ah, it is very difficult to understand and you will teach us step by step? To register an account is also free for you. And nobody can help you, not even a secret group.


Since there is no more to tell, I quit this thread. Note, you will not get anything useful from aether22. He will carry one with useless words till you or he runs out of steam. I spare you my silly words.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2017, 12:07:39 PM »

It does not matter whether the secret order exists. You should prove your silly promises.[/size]



Well, it does matter.  If it does exist then you are telling the truth.  If it doesn't exist then you are a troll and a liar.  Maybe not of believable lies, but even crappy lies are lies.


I made one promise, that most people feel energy from my coils at around 90% (when I wield them anyway), and probably over 50% with my images (probably audience dependent to degree).


And I said people had to show genuine interest and contact me because if they did I would send them an image.


So far one one person has email me and they didn't feel it, and they only tried an image, so that's roughly 50-50, so one result is meaningless.


For me to fail to live up to my promises 5 to 10 people would need to try it, this would then be a preponderance of negative info if results of them felt the energy.  Sure you can flip a coil 5 or 10 times and get only heads, but the odds are against it.


So it is you that needs to do something, no me.  Except I am reluctant to share my work with you, so let's leave it up to people who aren't trolls.