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Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #195 on: June 10, 2020, 09:28:49 PM »
Ok, we can separate two magnets that attract, move them around, then join them again, so what?

It looks like to me that nothing which you are talking about is overunity, yet you keep posting, at that getting no benefit of it, so what interests me is, what motivates you?

Just my opinion, btw, no one has to agree. You write about your work and i write my opinion, as anyone can do.  Your opinion can be negative or it can be incorrect, whatever, you have the right to write your opinion.

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"Ok, we can separate two magnets that attract, move them around, then join them again, so what?"
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Your "so what" is not just a question.  It is a statement.  That statement is of the derogatory kind.    Derogatory remarks couched within a question, it seems are some peoples specialty.  Its an immature / troll kind of behavior.  We all have bad days some days.  But when a poster in one of my topics becomes nothing more than a squeaking wheel,  its time they say by by.

"It looks like to me that nothing which you are talking about is overunity, yet you keep posting" 
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It looks like to me that nothing which you are talking about above is over unity, yet you keep posting !

"at that getting no benefit of it,"
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                   NOT FOR YOU TO SAY

"so what interests me is, what motivates you?"
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                  If you don't know already know, you probably never will.
                                     AND NOT YOUR BUSINESS.

"You can go to my thread about the asymmetry of the field and write your opinion as well, but only about my work."
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                         How about here ?
Yes, its an asymmetry of the field, so what ? 
It looks like to me that nothing which you are talking about is over unity, yet you keep posting.
                                                        GET IT ?

"Ok, we can separate two magnets that attract, move them around, then join them again,"
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                  NOT AN HONEST REPRESENTATION OF MY TOPICS MATERIALS

We can do much more than that.  We can effectively re-position magnets into near and / or a far proximity form one another, while near to zero work is done either by or against the magnetic forces present.  We accomplish this by balancing attracting and repelling forces.   We can then, allow the magnetic forces to do work and then re-position those magnets again.

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Therefore AyeAye, whether intentional or just sloppiness on your part, your posts are not welcome on my topics.

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #196 on: June 11, 2020, 02:51:44 PM »
Your "so what" is not just a question.  It is a statement.  That statement is of the derogatory kind.

This is a matter of interpretation, i didn't mean "so what?" derogatory.

Say like, someone meets you at some place in the city, asks "what are you doing here?", this can be interpreted as derogatory, like you have no reason to be here, or friendly, like what are you occupied with.

But as i see, when you interpret what i say necessarily as derogatory, in spite it necessarily is not, that's offensive, sorry, there is no other way it can be interpreted, As i may guess, you don't like me, because i'm critical about your work, but this doesn't mean that everything that i say is negative.

You take it as personal, but i have not been personal at all, i talked about the things and the research, not about you. Certainly some things said are not what you like, but please don't make it personal.

I only wrote my opinion, about the things that you do, that was all that i intended to do. You can go on writing about your work, i'm not going to write more and prevent you from doing that in any way, saying my opinion once was all that i wanted.


Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #197 on: June 12, 2020, 08:35:09 AM »
@ALL readers

              Some videos demonstrating magnet re-positioning, when attraction
                                    and repulsion are near to balance.


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q   .....amazeing

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978   .....RtAngSld  right angle slide

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9    ....MagnetShield1

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d   .....TD Force Diagrammed

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6va1an     .....NewTDSensitivity

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xihh7      ..... NSN Shielding

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xinsj        .....Magnetic Field Inconsistency

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0i61       ..... Floor's Balancing Neutralization

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ffco0       ..... Floor's Balancing Neutralization part 2

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0md2    ......Floors brute force neutralization part 1

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0o4w     ......Floors brute force neutralization part 2

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synchro1

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #198 on: June 13, 2020, 12:16:55 AM »

@Floor:

Have you thought about a latching mechanism that would hold the repulsion magnet in place while the shield magnet withdraws? The power stored in a spring by the repulsion magnet must be enough to return the shield and reposition the repulsion magnet. Have you imagined any mechanical set of simple levers, springs and gears to get it to power itself?

Two latches would allow the repulsion magnet to load and lock a spring. Start there to initiate the cycle and see what can work! That spring must first move the shield then release the repulsion magnet from the latch.

It would help to have a spring latch on the sliding shield magnet as well. Both the repulsion magnet spring and the sliding shield springs would be cocked and loaded in succession, but more power in the repulsion magnet spring.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2020, 02:27:43 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #199 on: June 13, 2020, 12:49:22 AM »
Intersecting rack, pinion and barrel gear; coupled with the springs and latches, this gear package should get it to work. different gear ratios are possible with a center gear on the barrel, transforming power into distance.

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #200 on: June 13, 2020, 01:06:23 AM »
Like this; The spring has to release and push the gear rack before the repulsion magnet is repositioned by the last bit of force. A spring with a center latch pin may help this to work! This would allow the spring to release part way to first move the shield magnet, then release completely to reposition the free moving repulsion magnet. The combination of the 3d printed gears and the double latching center pin springs can bring this concept to life!

The sliding shield magnet has to work against a weak latching spring that's loaded by the repulsion main power magnet spring.

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #201 on: June 13, 2020, 03:01:09 AM »
moving two shields from the ends to the center would half the pinion throw, double the rpm or power. the perpendicular rack is missing, but can be a complex package like above.

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #202 on: June 13, 2020, 03:57:44 AM »
Here's an idea for a motor. The rotor with the shields pumps multiple connected repulsion magnets. Gravity returns them, but the power of the combined repulsion would be multiplied! This set of repulsion magnets would need a latch to keep them in position for maximum force. Six or eight tied together should generate many times the force needed to rotate the shield rotor. A screw axle through the center could rotate the shield rotor a notch at a time.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2020, 11:22:40 AM by synchro1 »

Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #203 on: June 13, 2020, 11:16:26 AM »
@ Synchro

Firstly, thanks for the input.


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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #204 on: June 13, 2020, 11:20:58 AM »

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #205 on: June 13, 2020, 11:31:06 AM »
Have you tried a vertical gate? The repulsion magnet, guided by craft sticks, can reposition by gravity this way and the repulsion force would be easy to gauge by it's elevation.

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #206 on: June 13, 2020, 11:47:37 AM »
Have not tried a vertical gate .

Move discussion to

https://overunity.com/18511/floors-magnets-explained/msg546731/#msg546731       please ?

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #207 on: June 13, 2020, 11:54:10 AM »
Have not tried a vertical gate .

Move discussion to

https://overunity.com/18511/floors-magnets-explained/msg546731/#msg546731       please ?

floor


Thanks. 7 grams to slide and 1 pound 5 ounces of repulsion force equals a 90 to one force ratio. Perhaps a top rotor in attraction could multiply this by a factor of two? The repulsion, attraction magnets spoked and axled through the center.

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #209 on: June 13, 2020, 03:17:03 PM »
Here's the twin shield rotor attraction repulsion, gravity assisted axial pumper; Maybe 14 grams of force to power the rotors and 3 pounds of perpendicular axle pressure! That's a ratio of around 100 to 1! We can pulse the rotor with a magnet coil and add a ratchet latch.


This would operate a spring backed pancake pump extremely efficiently. A 3d molded frame would be ideal. The shield rotor connects to the bearing hub protruding from the casing and the bearing also allows the axle to slide.