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Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #165 on: April 06, 2018, 04:04:12 PM »

Fixes / amendment / new drawings / more explanations...


Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #166 on: April 07, 2018, 05:06:20 PM »
         More stuff
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Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #167 on: April 09, 2018, 12:54:31 PM »
Some corrections to this drawing

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Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #168 on: April 09, 2018, 01:05:34 PM »
and this drawing as well

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lancaIV

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #170 on: April 09, 2018, 02:11:31 PM »
Hello floor,
thanks a lot for your demonstration !

I think it is the explaining part about the magnetic force behaviour as showed by
Joe Flynns Parallel Path Magnet Technology !
Especially from the PP Egroup member  "GM" his experiment !
Figure 4
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/magnetictechnology.htm

Sincerely
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p.s.: the counter-part research of this "only permanent magnetic force shielding device"is an "only electro-magnetic force shielding device"
and possibel an "and/or" switch modus

page/sheet 2
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=US&NR=5254925A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19931019&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20170406&CC=US&NR=2017098975A1&KC=A1#

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8264314
A series of experiments were conducted to evaluate and compare the increase of magnetic flux achieved by the novel magnetic arrays disclosed herein as compared to other magnets, for example, neodymium magnets (NIB magnets or also known as neodymium-iron-boron magnets) or Halbach magnet arrays. Specifically, the experiments focused on changes in electromagnetic field (emf) and motor torque or horsepower. The data are reported in FIG. 8. The experimental data illustrates the increased electromagnetic field and/or motor torque generated by the novel magnetic arrays in comparison to NIB magnets and/or Halbach magnets.

norman6538

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #171 on: April 09, 2018, 09:11:10 PM »
and this drawing as well

The problem I see with this arrangement in msg 171 is that indeed it is balanced and will
leave or return with almost no work required due to that balance BUT when it twists
even a little ie take work out - it becomes unbalanced and then requires work to reset it
for the next cycle. HOWEVER if you arrange two of these with opposite arrangements
they MIGHT balance each other so that they can be reset. I did not try this but will
arrange such a test....
So if you can get the twist arranged to balance each other then you have free permanent
magnet work....

Norman

Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #172 on: April 10, 2018, 12:43:06 AM »
@Norman6835

Yes were on the same page ie. Looking at efficiency methods / reducing friction, while also
maintaining precise alignments, without the necessity of large / rigid sliding mechanisms ect..
 
                                           

norman6538

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #173 on: April 13, 2018, 02:25:40 AM »
Floor I tested the basic idea with this little setup.

First the  2 mags on the top/left are pushing away from each other and they are
tilted up so you can see what the potential work is there by the gap between them.

 Then to the right you can see a magnet between the 2 magnets. Pardon all that black silicone seal that holds the magnet in place.  The second magnet is hidden behind the S.

Then off of the magnet between them you see a white tab with and arrow <----> on it indicating
that it easily slides back and forth and when it is pulled out. There is a slot in the board where the magnet travels back and forth and plastic to keep it aligned and slipery.

The top/left magnets indicate the potential repel work done because there is a wider gap than the magnet width. Its crude and quick and dirty but shows the
basic concept. It needs to be measured for work in and out. But the real problem will
be the loss of power due to "further weaker" magnetic characteristics.
But the concept is solid.

Norman

Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #174 on: April 14, 2018, 03:24:15 AM »

Thanks Norman

Here is the same demonstration (7 minute video) using 2 magnets
clamped together in opposition as the "sliding inner magnet"

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

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Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #175 on: April 14, 2018, 03:58:38 PM »
A rotation to linear design.

These designs, methods, devices, drawings and
videos which are novel, are given into the public domain.

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Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #176 on: April 14, 2018, 04:17:58 PM »
@LancaTV

Thank you very much for the Flynn links and other info.
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norman6538

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #177 on: April 14, 2018, 04:25:59 PM »
Very nice Floor especially the colored parts description.
That should rotate easily and push the plate away against the
spring and then it should come back...

But it would be better to pull and lift a weight that could then do work instead of
squeezing the springs and loosing that work. Although the spring could apply its
squeezed potential work to something.

Norman

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #178 on: April 14, 2018, 04:38:55 PM »
@Norman6538

May be a second unit in opposition to and properly timed to
the first unit, should replace the springs ?

Work out put, would then be reciprocating pushes.
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citfta

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #179 on: April 14, 2018, 05:09:49 PM »
The reciprocating forces could then be applied to a flywheel.  I really like this design.  I don't comment much about what you are doing but I read every post and study every drawing.  Great work and research!