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Author Topic: Magnet force shield  (Read 35470 times)

Offline truesearch

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #150 on: March 25, 2018, 12:35:08 AM »
Norman,


Maybe I'm not getting the entire picture of what Floor is seeing . . . But what I am able to see is that with his theory of shielding is that you can get two magnets that are repealing each other into very close proximity with very little effort. Then remove the shield (also without much effort), resulting in the 2 magnets to again STRONGLY repeal each other.


>>NOTE: Floor noted this: "inner magnets installation and removal only works correctly when the direction is straight out from and into the page.
So that means to me that the inner "shield" magnet is not up&down but needs to be forward&backward as viewed.

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Re: Magnet force shield
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Offline norman6538

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #151 on: March 25, 2018, 01:18:29 PM »
Yes Truesearch that is exactly what I understood and your drawing shows that.
Thanks, Its a great concept but remember closer stronger and further weaker will
reduce the best/most potential because the repelling magnets will have considerable gap between them.

But what really counts is measurement of the input and output work - mass x distance.
I have had several embodiments that worked very well and there was extra out but
not enough to do the set and reset work so the work out can be repeated.

I wish Floor and all of us the best of luck/research success.
The world needs a better source of power.
But my hopes are diminishing after trying for 15 years and gaining nothing.
Our master Designer has done a very tight job of wireing all of the physics together.


Norman

Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #152 on: March 25, 2018, 05:46:14 PM »
@Norman6835

Thanks Norman for your observations, input and good questions.

The png file (Magnet_image.png) uploaded by true search is a correct interpretation / representation of
the sequences.    Thank you Truesearch.

QUOTE  from Norman6835
"But what really counts is measurement of the input and output work - mass x distance."
END QUOTE

WORK = FORCE x DISPLACEMANT

Magnitude of (is amount of) force (is push or pull)   times     displacement (is the straight line distance in the direction of the applied force)
equals work.   

Mass,  acceleration rate and inertia are out of the picture at this point in the process.

                     thanks again
                            floor

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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #153 on: March 27, 2018, 03:05:27 PM »
@norman6835

On a more personal note.
Thanks, your involvement has helped keep me honest about what I have seen
as apposed to what I have sometimes mistakenly only thought I was seeing.
I hope we will continue to hear from you in the future !
                    best wishes
                             floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #154 on: March 27, 2018, 10:43:45 PM »
@norman6835

On a more personal note.
Thanks, your involvement has helped keep me honest about what I have seen
as apposed to what I have sometimes mistakenly only thought I was seeing.
I hope we will continue to hear from you in the future !
                    best wishes
                             floor


I'll be around. I have a permanent magnet addiction that has not been cured.
I do learn from others. Butch Lafonte was one who showed lots of setups but never
any measurements. And that triggered me to try lots of things. Again several were
OU but not enough extra to do the switching to make it a self runner.
So I have seen OU but not a self runner. What mystifies me is all those patents out
there that are not on the shelves to buy. I thought Flynn by now would have something but apparently not.

Best of luck to you and all others too.
I'm not in it for money nor ego - just want to see it like priest in the temple was satisfied when he saw Jesus.

Norman



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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #155 on: March 28, 2018, 01:05:40 PM »
I think for myself that the "nature designer" wires the electro-magnetic movement a little more complex :

only shielding of two magnets does not mean output >1

question 1 : Richard Fradella generator description            "nominal" RPM relation-factor
                  1000 RPM nominal = 1000 W
                    500 RPM                  125 W                          0,5 x 0,5 x 0,5 = 0,125
                    100 RPM                      1 W                          0,1 x 0,1 x 0,1 = 0,001

rotation for itself does not mean research target success
a "shielded" motor-generator rotating could be in sum 3% efficient (Hermann Thoene) or less

fixed rotation or variable speed device ?

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question 2 : Mukherjee generator
                   generator given F=BiL in VA
                   1/2 counter-BiL-force= 1/2 V x 1/2 A
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How is the wished "duty cycle" in this "permanent magnet idea" Magnet_image.png above applied as part of a push&pull (JLNaudin) process ? Not only the air gap is important !

The "duty cycle" controlling is torque-given !
controle: Frequency/Time/Function in one device

btw: "shielding/neutralizing" counterpart is amplifying

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The Flynn Bro. did also applied for a coil-wrapped permanent magnet,as magnetic force-shield
or magnetic force amplifier 
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http://overunity.com/17119/pulling-energy-from-the-ambient-energy-field-using-a-coil-capacitor/msg519030/#new
Reply#211
...
From theory point of view there should exist a power of four relation between the coil capacitor’s capacitance (C) and the amount of induced charge in the charge collecting capacitor per cycle. This is because there occur two rate of changes. First happens in magnetic to energetic induction that creates the energetic current flow and the second in DC conversion which is done by energetic to electric induction as energetic component changes direction between two unequal magnetic field potentials. So when C is increased two times the amount of induced charge should be increased sixteen times.
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« Last Edit: March 28, 2018, 05:31:38 PM by lancaIV »

Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #156 on: March 28, 2018, 07:55:40 PM »
@Norman

 Butch LaFonte's work helped to inspire me to.

"just want to see it like priest in the temple was satisfied when he saw Jesus."

             Yea, me to
                         

                 Here is the latest video
                                     http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

                           I've seen the light

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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #157 on: March 28, 2018, 08:21:31 PM »
@LankaTV

QUOTE
"How is the wished "duty cycle" in this "permanent magnet idea" Magnet_image.png above
applied as part of a push&pull (JLNaudin) process ? ENDQUOTE

I Don't know.  There are drawings of linking multiple Twist drive units as well as
various other magnet configurations in some of my other topics.
Sorry I'm too tired to look those up for you today.

QUOTE
Not only the air gap is important !" END QUOTE

I havent tried this with a larger shield magnet yet (instead of two magnets clamped together)
but only with a smaller and single magnet.

I  don't think an air gap between the two shield magnets is needed.

QUOTE
"shielding/neutralizing" counterpart is amplifying"  END QUOTE

Yes its something like a magnetic transister or triode vecuum tube.
                       
                   regards
                       floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #158 on: March 30, 2018, 07:20:51 PM »
@ all viewers

These three videos are the ones most directly related to / demonstrating this over unity process.

  http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978
  http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5an8hd
  http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

         Do something good with this
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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #159 on: March 30, 2018, 07:41:13 PM »
@ all readers

Some of the drawings depict interactions in which the outer magnets are in
                           REPULSION
when the inner magnet / magnets are removed.

Others of the drawings depict interactions in which the outer magnets are in
                          ATTRACTION
when the inner magnet is removed.

The directions in which the inner magnet and/or magnets can be installed and
removed with out work against magnetic forces, are not entirely the same when
work is output through attraction instead of output done by repulsion !

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #160 on: April 01, 2018, 02:28:20 AM »
@all readers

Please find the 3 attached PNG images
and also the video links upon the last page.

These devices, principles of operation, devices, my drawings and videos
are given into the public domain.

                 floor

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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #161 on: April 03, 2018, 11:38:45 PM »
This PNG file (below) is just my conception of a Bloch wall.

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #162 on: April 04, 2018, 10:21:20 PM »
Another variation and design.
    floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #163 on: April 05, 2018, 10:10:11 PM »
Here are some more descriptions (partial) of the
               magnetic forces at play
            in these shielding methods.

Please find these 4 PNG files below.
               best wishes
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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #164 on: April 05, 2018, 10:18:54 PM »

In the drawings  as     MagForShldComplex 1.PNG

Figures number 2, 4, and 6 should be labled as front views !

          floor

 

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