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Title: Is this possible ? magnet/spring motor
Post by: penno64 on January 19, 2017, 03:50:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Z_wOMIf44

Regards
Title: Re: Is this possible ? magnet/spring motor
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 19, 2017, 04:36:16 AM
Thats amazing!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Is this possible ? magnet/spring motor
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 19, 2017, 04:50:43 AM
This seems familiar


I think we have been here before
Title: Re: Is this possible ? magnet/spring motor
Post by: Lakes on January 20, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
He presses something in the bottom corner and there is a large "clunk" sound.
Does not show the rear of the device.

If it were really that easy, it would have been done many times already.
Title: Re: Is this possible ? magnet/spring motor
Post by: Zephir on January 20, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
As a rule of thumb: never demonstrate the perpetuum mobile in front of plug inserted into a grid socket...  8)
It looks as trustworthy as the Virgin Mary in the  mesh tight stockings...
Title: Re: Is this possible ? magnet/spring motor
Post by: penno64 on January 20, 2017, 08:25:36 PM
Thanks guys
Title: Re: Is this possible ? magnet/spring motor
Post by: Zephir on January 20, 2017, 09:58:16 PM
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If it were really that easy, it would have been done many times already.
I wouldn't rely on it very much, the people are notoriously ignorant regarding the overunity machines testing.
But the above principle shares many common points with famous V-gate machine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bssBAb6EzM4) (discussed here (http://overunity.com/10034/new-permanent-magnet-motor-on-youtube-from-roobert33)).
Title: Re: Is this possible ? magnet/spring motor
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 21, 2017, 02:25:31 PM
Magnetism, being a conservative field, the work done by the magnets to the spring
Is equal to the work done by the repelling magnet.


The work done by the spring to lift the magnet against gravity
Is equal to the work done by gravity against the spring.
Gravity, also being a conservative field.


However, there is additional work done to the spring
Physical tension results in a heating of the metal
Which bleeds energy out of the system
This is generally considered a loss.


The spring here is slacked at the top to allow gravitational momentum to build up
This momentum, if sufficient, could offset the heat losses in the spring


Is this "possible"?
I don't see why it wouldn't be.
The difference between gravitational acceleration and gravitational momentum
Can be tremendous, if allowed to fall for a long enough time.


Shortly put:  E= mgh ;
Momentum = mv;
V=g(t)
Notice there is no (t) in the potential energy equation
You can lift fast or slow, takes the same energy to lift.
But if you let if fall slowly, and reharness this energy
You get back what you started with. (minus friction and wind resistance)
However, let it fall on its' own and that situation takes on
a whole other perspective.


Why is this?
Well, the gravitational acceleration is 9.8 m per second per second
That means that every second the gravity is allowed to pull on an object
Another 9.8m per second of velocity is added to the object
This is accounted for in rockets by an additional amount of fuel needed
when the rocket spends longer time in the air.
For this reason it is more efficient to launch faster than to try and
fight gravity for long times.


So, in theory, the difference between gravitational momentum and
a conservative magnetic field,
Could result in an energy output from the gravitational field.


Does the particular device in question actually work??
I have my doubts, most of them have to do with the shotty
construction, not the actual design.