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Title: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on January 11, 2017, 02:41:31 AM
Please find the attached "AllMagnetMotor"PDF file.

             best wished
                           floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on January 11, 2017, 03:36:20 PM
@All readers

The first version of  the motor (PDF above) might have too much of a sticky spot.

This next version "NewCirc TD2" is an improvement.

                               floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: rstergar on January 11, 2017, 07:55:22 PM
I think all versions might have too much of a sticky spot.

For magnet motor you must creat some 3D version and more complicated...

search for Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor and his plans and watch videos... he claims that his motor works :)
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on January 12, 2017, 01:22:01 AM
@ At all readers

This is a hybrid, a cross between the "AllMagnetMotor" (PDF above)
and the "NewCircular TD 2" (PDF also above)

                 floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on January 12, 2017, 02:14:32 AM
@rstergar

Quote from rstergar

"I think all versions might have too much of a sticky spot.
For magnet motor you must creat some 3D version and more
complicated...search for Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor and
his plans and watch videos... he claims that his motor works"
End Quote

You "think all versions might have too much of a sticky spot."
                     This is simply that you spoke when you didn't
                     know what you were talking about. 
                     Look first then speak.


"search for Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor and
his plans and watch videos"
            why ?
            Are you a fan of  Muammer Yildiz ?

"he claims that his motor works"
           Do you also claim that his motor works ?
           Many say  the Yildiz device was a hoax.


"For magnet motor you must creat some 3D version"
                 We are working in 3 d, or did you mean 3d simulation ?
                 All the real world is 3d, magnets included.

"more complicated is needed" 
                 I don't think so.

rstergar 20 posts since November 01, 2013.
Just hit and run posts, but it looks like you have done some
real experimenting with magnets as well.

My guess is that you will never read this reply.

Check out these topics if you like

http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/
            and
http://overunity.com/16987/td-replications/

If then you are well informed upon this particular subject, then
please do give some RELEVANT criticisms, ideas and so on.   Really !
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on January 17, 2017, 04:39:49 PM
A variation of the motor design.

See the PNG file below.

          floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on January 21, 2017, 01:17:41 AM
@AllReaders

Shrinking the view of the pdf files until they just fill the screen, allows
one to view them as a flip book / video.

To under stand the how and why of this device see the topic /link  below
and or the Zip file below.

http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/

                       floor

Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on January 27, 2017, 07:56:53 PM
@ all readers

Please find the attached PDF file (NewCircularTD3. pdf).
Shrink the view until 1 page just fills the screen, then
click through the pages (like a video).

                        floor

Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on January 28, 2017, 01:03:08 AM
@ all readers

         Sorry for the errors in the NewCircularTD 3.pdf  file.

             Please find the attached NewCircularTD 3fix.pdf file

                                               floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: MagnaProp on January 28, 2017, 06:47:37 AM
Thanks for the info Floor. I'm still trying to understand the concept and hope to test something soon.
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: telecom on February 05, 2017, 09:10:02 PM
There was a patent of a buoyancy based motor where magnets contract and expand
the volume of the floater.
May be this is the way to go?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=FR&NR=2828716
The good thing about it is that you only expand/contract once, but the force is generated from a magnitude of the bodies.
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on February 20, 2017, 09:09:05 PM
@Telecom
      thanks

@ all readers

My tests clearly show that this method of shielding / the design presented ...

                    CAN NOT FUNCTION AS I HAD HOPED
                                           HOWEVER

Please see those other designs and.... the demonstrations of those other designs (videos)
which are successful at the topics below.

http://overunity.com/16987/td-replications/

http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/

Several videos by floor @

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5an8hd_rtangsld2_tech

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5ckdkn

several videos by Gotoluc  @  or near by to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmCQVg9qRmQ

                            best wishes
                                   floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on February 21, 2017, 12:46:15 AM
@ All readers

           Here  is alink to Luc's most recent video.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUlDMY1iE5A
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on March 10, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
@ All readers

I worked out the  shield bug !!!!!

I threw up..... a new video.
It shows an effective magnet shield in action.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5eg7kk_magnetshield-1_tech

As far as I'm concerned, this is all open source and public domain.
All in common...that's the only real over unity there is. 
              Thanks for every thing Luc.
                 Peace... Out
                     floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on March 18, 2017, 12:29:50 AM
@all readers

It should be assumed that......
the changes  in the design of the magnet alignments (last video).
are to be applied to the alll magnet motor designs which I previously
presented in this topic.
  best wishes
           floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on March 18, 2017, 02:19:32 PM
@All readers

Given below as 3 PNG files, are some details of the
interactions in the last video / link I posted

           ABOVE
     
These interactions have also been detailed in various
arrangements in this and others of the related topics.
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on March 30, 2017, 02:15:50 AM
@  all readers
I have deleated my recent video "magnetshield-1" WHICH DID NOT WORK and

which was @  http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5eg7kk_magnetshield-1_tech

 best wishes
    floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on April 02, 2018, 01:03:52 AM
Using different magnet configurations and alignments as shown in
the attached JPG file below "AllMagnetMotorRealigned.JPG". is the right
fix for this continuous rotation device.

Many of the designs I previously posted in this topic may
properly function if the the alignments are made as shown in the
"AllMagnetMotorRealigned.JPG".

Also
I have re-posted the file "NewCircularTD 3fix.PDF" below
The magnet alignments used in this PDF file should be changed
to that as illustrated in the AllMagnetMotorRealigned.JPG below.

I have not tested this device as a unit, but only the interactions.
see the topic

 http://overunity.com/17097/magnet-force-shield/

floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on April 06, 2018, 04:08:38 PM

This design addition (below) can enable lighter construction methods.
                     floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on April 10, 2018, 12:50:43 AM
Design / method variations.
              floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on April 14, 2018, 03:55:32 PM
A rotation to linear design.

These novel designs, methods, devices, drawings and
videos are given into the public domain.

    floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on August 31, 2018, 09:44:34 PM
These rotating designs ended up balancing out to zero net gain.

Reciprocating and linear motions can work out to OU.

  floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: telecom on September 12, 2018, 03:57:27 AM
These rotating designs ended up balancing out to zero net gain.

Reciprocating and linear motions can work out to OU.

  floor
Can you  please show a view which is facing the setup?
Also, which forces actually cause the linear motion?
Thanks
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on September 13, 2018, 12:06:31 AM
Hi Telecom

yes I'll do a drawing and post it ...
..........................................
forces and position  as shown in present drawing...  explained

There are ONLY TWO motions that CAN OCCUR by any of  the magnets.
These motions are ... the rotation of the "rotating armature"  and / or sliding of the "linearly actuated member"
All of the magnets are physically restrained from any other motions.

Because  the two magnets which are mounted upon the  "rotating armature"
are in between       the 2 "frame" magnets    and    the 2 "linearly actuated member" magnets ....
repelling and attracting forces are in balance between all magnets (in terms of the ONLY TWO  motions which CAN OCCUR). 

There is no   NET  magnetic force which can cause motion of any of the magnets  (1. rotational or 2. linear) when the
"rotating armature"  magnets are in this position.

the "return springs" force the "linearly actuated member" to slide  the right.  This is the position of the  "linearly actuated member"
as shown in the present drawing (returned).  (no work against magnets... along this vector, left or right)   

In the absence of the "return springs" and while the "rotating armature" magnets are in the position shown,
the "linearly actuated member" is free to slide    left or right !

If the "rotating armature" magnets are rotated out of this position, there exists a repelling force between the
"linearly actuated member" magnets and the "frame" magnets, that force will cause the "linearly actuated member"
to move to the left, while at the same time, compressing the "return springs"

                 hope that helps
                       floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: telecom on September 14, 2018, 06:01:57 AM
Ok, I'm not 100% sure still how everything going to work.
I was revisiting your work from 2 magnets posts, and an idea came to me that
the sum of work of the sliding magnets is near 0 , since the forces are almost equal, and work in the opposite directions, before and after the central position.
I wonder if your apparatus is still intact to do some measurements.
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on September 19, 2018, 12:04:13 AM
@Telecom

First let me apologize for taking so long to respond.  Been very busy and I don't get online
very often these days.

Yes My test bed is available

        floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: telecom on September 20, 2018, 07:49:20 PM
@Telecom

First let me apologize for taking so long to respond.  Been very busy and I don't get online
very often these days.

Yes My test bed is available

        floor
The idea is to check the work done during the whole cycle of the magnet going from attraction to repelling
(or vice versa), causing the cross movement of another magnet.

Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on September 20, 2018, 09:36:10 PM
@Telecom

 Have you watched these videos ?



http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ichk2

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978

                         floor
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: telecom on September 21, 2018, 07:48:14 PM
Great craftsmanship!
In your second video you mentioned that the the magnet should move transversely when you move your shielded magnet along it.
However nothing moves....
Is it a riddle???
Title: Re: All Magnet Motor TD based
Post by: Floor on September 21, 2018, 10:40:58 PM
No riddle