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Title: nano pulse power supply
Post by: rudly617 on November 29, 2016, 07:21:58 AM
Hi. Guys. Sorry my noob question. Power supply modified by les banki using 12 v battery or 220 vac from house? :)
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: massive on November 30, 2016, 02:36:55 AM

12v DC , circuit Les designed based on japanese research papers , with primary circuit protection for spikes from fast switching .
like most circuits around ,if not ALL , 50% square wave is used , which no matter the freq is just on and off for equal length of time .  if used with flyback it is in continuous mode
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: pomodoro on November 30, 2016, 05:45:04 AM
.A fast MOSFET driver chip  can do a faster job down into the 10ns range if required. RF transistors such as the 2n3866 and its complimentary PNP can boost the avg current if required. The special thrysistor SCR is a gimmick.
Use small electrodes for experimenting and scale up the electrodes and electronics once you find the sweet spot.
Note that for electrolysis type work the discharge phase of the driver is not used as you normally want the charge on the double layer to discharge into the water not back into the driver.
As a side note, these pulse techniques are used for electroplating not for electrolysis as diffusion to the electrode is normally not much of an issue except for dilute electrolytes which are not used when producing HHO. (Expect for fringe science experiments  :o   8)  )
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: massive on November 30, 2016, 07:39:41 AM

that " gimmick" has a part number just like every other component . manufactured by NGK by the research team in the japanese paper .
no one has access to the component part nor can anyone or has anyone given an explanation on how they think it works .
Les Banki designed what he saw as an equivalent circuit .  Stephen , the owner of this forum wrote the first post that out put was "31 times more than faraday" , Les did calcs on those figures presented and said "8 times" . 
from that point on everyone piled onto Les ,which went to show they didnt even BOTHER to read the japanese or Indian papers .
even when he asked them to read the papers!   

the researches in the japanese paper are also employees of NGK and also the patent holders of the thyristor .
their names are right there in the paper.
anyone can search for static induction thyristor or static induction transistor , theres research papers going back decade/decades or more .  they are not available to public .






 
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: massive on November 30, 2016, 08:01:01 AM

theres heaps of info , patents and papers on the net , the static induction transistor was invented in japan in the 1970s !!!

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780123820365000094

theres probably half dozen people who actually read the papers Les refered to other wise the threads on over unity and over unity research would not have gone the direction they went

and it wasnt because of Les Banki

Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: pomodoro on November 30, 2016, 09:33:43 AM
Yes, just saying that you can do same research yoursefl without the special SCR.
Edit, the 555 needs a few more parts,I managed to use it with 74121 with a 7667 driver for down to about 30ns from memory. I did not try high voltages, since I used strong electrolytes.

Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: rudly617 on December 03, 2016, 03:40:14 PM
So its means that les banki circuit not for electrolysis but
electroploting
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: pomodoro on December 03, 2016, 11:15:18 PM
No, he designed it for water splitting, but in general anything that can supply huge currents for, usually , milliseconds can be used for pulse electroplating.
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: rudly617 on December 04, 2016, 12:20:41 AM
Can I use this kind of power supply to generate hho from my 100 plates ss 316l series wet cell?
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: pomodoro on December 04, 2016, 01:48:07 AM
Post a pic of the exact power supply schematic
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: rudly617 on December 04, 2016, 01:51:10 AM
Oh I means that les banki nano pulse power supply
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: pomodoro on December 04, 2016, 04:43:34 AM
Yes but with 100 plates the voltage across each cell is 100th of volts at the coil. So you don't get the high voltage which is supposed to be vital. There is a minimum voltage for each cell required before electrolysis can begin it could be 3-4 V for stainless , i don't remember so 400 to 500v might be needed.
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: rudly617 on December 04, 2016, 04:53:36 AM
Ok thanks for the information. I read the book of george wiseman that if we use 3/8 inch between plate the voltage across each place 2v. That means the minimum of electrolysis occurs 200v. Correct me if I mistake.
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: rudly617 on December 04, 2016, 05:50:44 AM
What les meant by using this :

i. "... I choose the ETD49, N87, 0.5mm gap (Epcos) ferrite core transformer for several reasons.
The main one is power handling.  (200 – 500W, depending on operating mode, etc.)
Operating frequency range is another.
Availability is also important..."

ii. "...A single, HV, high current MOSFET, (Q1, 1500V – 20A) will serve as inductive current level/limit control and pulse generator..."

iii. "...D1 & D2 are also placed on heath sinks with 1200V/30A.
The power ON-OFF control circuit has also been modified to accommodate both positive and negative signal polarity ON control..."

Thanks...

Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: pomodoro on December 04, 2016, 05:58:45 AM
I have not built the Banski circuit so can't help with specifics. Test one cell by itself first to get the total V required.
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: rudly617 on December 04, 2016, 06:17:36 AM
How about this

"...On my circuit diagram 'nanopup8.sch.pdf', note the red dots - indicating the 'start' of the windings!..."

Thanks for help again
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: h20power on December 04, 2016, 06:35:27 AM
Now when we talk about Meyer's technology things change as the voltage of the cell is between 1000-2000 per cell (resonant cavity) and 2000-3000 per injector to operate a vehicle. This technology works very differently than that of normal electrolysis in that the water molecules are separated by an ionizing voltage field.
It has taken me over ten years to get at the science behind this technology which is to be expected as I made use of the scientific method which as we all know is a slow process at solving unknowns. In the pdf file it shows how this technology breaks the bonds of the water molecules. What I found while investigating this technology that was missing from main steam science books was a new theory that needs to be added to the science books. Here is the new theory that I came up with, “Molecules can be separated into their component atoms by taking away the electron(s) from the atoms that make up the molecules.” This theory is backed by investigative science and real world experiments. With this theory many new things can now be done that simply were thought not possible before now. It's a whole new era of science just waiting for us to explore.


This is how Meyer was able to make use of water as a source of fuel for it takes two things he built for this technology to work correctly, the water splitting devices and the air gas processor. Plus to work smoothly it requires many other things Meyer invented like the meter mixing the exhaust gases back into the intake system to slow the burn rate of hydrogen and other things that make the system work smoothly. Since his death was premature those of us working on this technology have to figure out the rest that is missing on our own through trial and error so don't be afraid to fail as that is how solutions for this technology are figured out.


Now I am doing what I can through my company True Green Solutions as I recognize that I must follow the rules of the market to drive the cost for this technology down by way of mass production so that it is affordable. Thus far in forms like these everyone has been trying to build "One Offs" which is the most expensive way to go about making this technology and let me tell you that approach goes against the rules of the markets as it is set up to cut the prices by buying more of something not less. These market rules can not be ignored as to do so cost big bucks and not many will be able to afford this technology as a result.


From the looks of it many things have to be redesigned to make them more cost effective from how Meyer did things in the past but in order to do this those that try and make changes must understand how this technology works first. Like I said I have been at this for over ten years doing things the hard way making use of the scientific method thus I know a thing or two about this technology now. I'd love it if people would show their support so that I can go into a limited form of mass production on my go fund me page: https://www.gofundme.com/energytothepeople (https://www.gofundme.com/energytothepeople) for any help on accomplishing this mission is welcomed.


Take care all and wish me the best of luck in trying to bring this technology to the market place.

Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: rudly617 on December 04, 2016, 12:11:32 PM
Thanks for the info  :)
Title: Re: nano pulse power supply
Post by: rudly617 on December 05, 2016, 07:57:54 AM
Anybody can help me part number for nano pulse power supply by les banki.