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Gemini gravity wheel...
« on: November 15, 2006, 02:45:33 AM »
...introduces the binary interactive complementary concept ,regarding the loop(winding,spiraling) phenomenon.It's a mutual view:"help me now,I will help next to".Complement is a quantity needed to make something complete.This time, we aim a self-running gravity device,something alike a flux collector.The gravitational flow is a potential one, only: a common up-down pendular fall makes it real ,but fails to close the loop(a 180 degrees "charge" is wasted in an about 180 degrees "discharge").So,nothing "in hand". Some developments of this pendulum(look at "New!New Drafts/1,3,4,9,10,12,13) are intended to "elongate" the fall time(the kinetic energy charging sequence) vs. rise time(the kinetic energy discharging sequence):270 * charge /90 * discharge.The next step can be a binary pulsating system :two identically coupled wheels ,each supporting a pulsatory pendular lever in a 180* phase shift relationship.In a short description:two wheels(frames),two tubes(long L shape bended ),two iron balls.The "war" of words  regarding  "wheel vs. lever" becomes an "agreement wheel and lever".A lever is no more that a "minimal" wheel.If we believe,we have a chance...as a friend that helps us create the fact in the real world.All the Bests!/Alex

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Gemini gravity wheel...
« on: November 15, 2006, 02:45:33 AM »

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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 03:16:15 AM »

......as a concept drawing,you can find at    www.geocities.com/iacob_alex   then click on "Some Drafts"(Some_Drafts/Untitled029.jpg).

               All the Bests! / Alex

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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 02:44:36 AM »
...introduces the binary interactive complementary concept ,regarding the loop(winding,spiraling) phenomenon.It's a mutual view:"help me now,I will help next to".Complement is a quantity needed to make something complete.This time, we aim a self-running gravity device,something alike a flux collector.The gravitational flow is a potential one, only: a common up-down pendular fall makes it real ,but fails to close the loop(a 180 degrees "charge" is wasted in an about 180 degrees "discharge").So,nothing "in hand". Some developments of this pendulum(look at "New!New Drafts/1,3,4,9,10,12,13) are intended to "elongate" the fall time(the kinetic energy charging sequence) vs. rise time(the kinetic energy discharging sequence):270 * charge /90 * discharge.The next step can be a binary pulsating system :two identically coupled wheels ,each supporting a pulsatory pendular lever in a 180* phase shift relationship.In a short description:two wheels(frames),two tubes(long L shape bended ),two iron balls.The "war" of words  regarding  "wheel vs. lever" becomes an "agreement wheel and lever".A lever is no more that a "minimal" wheel.If we believe,we have a chance...as a friend that helps us create the fact in the real world.All the Bests!/Alex

So a pendulum is to increase its length of fall on the descending side of the wheel and shorten its climb up... Seems an interesting idea, from your drawings, I dont quite understand how one would achieve this? Unless a pendulum, as it falls, would slowly lift up as it keeps it force on the wheel and guiding it into the axle then up and out again? hmm

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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 02:44:36 AM »
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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2009, 05:01:45 AM »

                  Hi Alexi !

       Firstly,take a look at a design,more easy to get an idea about the same concept       http://www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text022.jpg    with the title "Gravity Flip-Flop".

  Here we have;

    M1=M2
    R1<R2<R3
    M1 is a fixed mass on a R2 arm
    M2 is a mobile mass,self-sliding  between R1 and R3,due to gravity ,only.

   We have a positive torque difference,on the right side of the fulcrum between 0* and 270*,as follows:

    -between 0*-!80*  ,because  M1.R2>M2.R1
    -between 180*-270*,because  M2 is sliding,so to have M2.R3>M1.R2

   We can see ,that we have ,not an usual pendular type fall(0*-180*),but a longer one(0*-270*),with a simple design...

   To "close the loop" (270*-360*), we have a "small problem",regarding the sign of the torque difference(it switches on the left side of the fulcrum....).

   As I see the things,there can be two solutions:

    -to add a rotational inertia ,store-restore system,as a centric mass/ring on the fulcrum:a flywheel or a Watt Governor.
   
    -to pair this wheel, with an other arrangement, as in a mirror ,but with a 90* phase shift...as that proposed with the name "Gemini gravity wheel".

   This kind of game,on paper... and in reality,maybe... can be played with a lot of different designs.
   
    Simplicity is a fair language...less lines in a design,can "talk" to more  people.

             All the Bests! / Alex

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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2009, 02:42:39 PM »
                  Hi Alexi !

       Firstly,take a look at a design,more easy to get an idea about the same concept       http://www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text022.jpg    with the title "Gravity Flip-Flop".

  Here we have;

    M1=M2
    R1<R2<R3
    M1 is a fixed mass on a R2 arm
    M2 is a mobile mass,self-sliding  between R1 and R3,due to gravity ,only.

   We have a positive torque difference,on the right side of the fulcrum between 0* and 270*,as follows:

    -between 0*-!80*  ,because  M1.R2>M2.R1
    -between 180*-270*,because  M2 is sliding,so to have M2.R3>M1.R2

   We can see ,that we have ,not an usual pendular type fall(0*-180*),but a longer one(0*-270*),with a simple design...

   To "close the loop" (270*-360*), we have a "small problem",regarding the sign of the torque difference(it switches on the left side of the fulcrum....).

   As I see the things,there can be two solutions:

    -to add a rotational inertia ,store-restore system,as a centric mass/ring on the fulcrum:a flywheel or a Watt Governor.
   
    -to pair this wheel, with an other arrangement, as in a mirror ,but with a 90* phase shift...as that proposed with the name "Gemini gravity wheel".

   This kind of game,on paper... and in reality,maybe... can be played with a lot of different designs.
   
    Simplicity is a fair language...less lines in a design,can "talk" to more  people.

             All the Bests! / Alex

Just before we go any further, I cant find the picture that reads "Grivity Flip-Flop" could you link me straight to the pic? The link you posted doesnt work.
Alex

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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 06:20:46 PM »
 
     Maybe a small mistake:jpg instead of JPG...

     Let's try again:     www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text022.JPG

     If not,then you can type "Stellarotor"(Google,Yahoo...),enter the site,click on "Some Drafts",then search the "Some_Drafts"/022.JPG

     There you can find the "Gravity Flip-Flop".

                                                                        All the Bests! / Alex

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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 07:24:09 PM »
the blue weight will slide to the end but it wont increase its fall distance because the weight will push to the bottom and just slide back as the wheel turns meaning it takes longer for the weight to rise than it does to drop...

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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 08:15:53 PM »

        Hi Alexioco!

   ...maybe...you see the things different,than I  intended to express in the design.

      A simple test can be conclusive regarding the continuous 0*-270* pendular fall and storage of a positive torque,greater than the negative torque(270*-360*0..

      Somebody will have curiosity,as Milkovic...I hope.

      Anyway,the try and try again is our teacher.

      Our (in progress,but limited...) knowledge is a fine thing,but imagination is a key for the next step of knowledge...

                              All the Bests! / Alex

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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2009, 05:44:19 AM »

   ...is simply,an application of the pendular concept for  a specific  flow.

      A pendulum can be considered for a gravity fall,as a blade for a common propeller intended to collect power from a flow(air,water).

      The main property of  a blade propeller,as a basic design,is that it can be used to collect power,or to travel,move a body.

       As we know,the propeller's blade,is a symbol,for transport and energy,in the same time.

       Sure,this is not the single method to move,or to get power,but a blade propeller can reverse a function,purpose.

       If you take a look at    www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/untitled029.jpg    (Gemini Gravity Wheel),and then at     www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text020.jpg    (Gemini Wheel),you can have in sight a resemblance...

        The intention is to make use of  pendulum,in the same simple manner,as we employ a blade for transport and energy reasons.

               All the Bests! / Alex

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Re: Gemini gravity wheel...
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