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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 119638 times)

Online Jerry Volland

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #660 on: May 07, 2021, 11:05:38 PM »

@nix85


The video I did put up shows the machine "jerking itself up" THEN moving forwards, with nothing to push off against. There's no need for you to minimize my achievement by leaving out the part about the horizontal movement.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #661 on: May 07, 2021, 11:05:50 PM »
speaking of biggest mouth, you might look at your own posts.

i don't have any followers, i'm just another member of the forum

i am a builder. i been building for years and i am building right now.

not gonna show your machines cause they have financial value? ahaam, sure

let me be clear, this is not and cannot be an ego thing. i invested most of
my time in gravity and OU, but i did invest A LOT of time and energy into
inertial propulsion too.

and i have no problem admitting that last principle i referred to in last post,
which is superior to anything i ever seen is totally not my idea and i was like
how in the world did i not figure this myself.

i have suffered the ego/pride enough to know it leads nowhere (hopefully)

also, i am student of art, i don't like to classify myself as an artists but i been
called that, i did write many songs in my life on a guitar mostly, i also work with
design. i don't see what that has to do with anything.

anyone who excels in anything in my book is a master and artist of that particular thing

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #662 on: May 07, 2021, 11:13:12 PM »
Actually, I said "the" Art, meaning the Art of Inertial Propulsion. And do you really believe that a working Inertial Reaction Propeller doesn't have financial value?


At this point, I'm going to let you have the last word.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #662 on: May 07, 2021, 11:13:12 PM »
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Offline nix85

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #663 on: May 07, 2021, 11:42:12 PM »
that is most likely a troll question implying i did not study "art" (physics)
of inertial propulsion and there is a great irony considering he is the one
who did not study it, and if he did, he did not get it.
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sure there might be money in it, but i do not pursue it for that reason
i didn't ask for last word, you are free to participate as much as you like

Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #664 on: May 09, 2021, 11:18:37 AM »
Isn't there at least one brave member here in this forum who would dare to say that the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY puts the basis of a new technology revolution?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Online Jerry Volland

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #665 on: May 09, 2021, 05:15:07 PM »

I don't see what courage has to do with your thought experiment.  But here's an experiment I did do, back in the 1990s:


I took a hinge and put a weight on the ends of the leaves, with a spring rigged to hold the hinge closed.  Then I put the fulcrum against the table and opened the hinge.  When I let go, the hinge swung closed, then jumped upwards a couple of inches.  Then I just held the hinge in the air, opened it, and then dropped it, allowing the hinge to close.  It did not move upwards at all.  So I put it on a tether, horizontally.  When I opened it and let it swing shut, the hinge swung backwards a little bit, on the tether. Then, after it closed, it moved back to its starting point and stopped.  It seems to me that flapping a hinge isn't going to move you around the solar system, even if the weights are moving in curved trajectories.


Now, if I put a mass behind the hinge, coupled with a brake, is something different going to happen, or is the back and forth movement just going to be a little slower, followed by the hinge stopping in its original position?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #666 on: May 12, 2021, 02:59:02 PM »
Here are our last REAL experimental results.
1) Please look again at the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY&t=330s
2) From 3:45 to 3:48 we have Ma = 1 kg, Mb = 4 kg and V1 = 0.1 m/s. (Please consider only the "upper" zigzag device.)
3) From 3:59 to 4:01 we have Ma = 1 kg, Mb = 4 kg, V2 = 0.06 m/s and  V3 = 0.01 m/s. (Please consider only the "upper" zigzag device.)
4) (1 kg) x (0.1 m/s) = ((1kg) x (0.06 m/s)) + ((4kg) x (0.01 m/s)). The last equality unambiguously shows the validity of the law of conservation of linear momentum in this particular case.
5) (0.5) x (1 kg) x (0.1 m/s) x (0.1 m/s) > ((0.5) x (1 kg) x (0.06 m/s) x (0.06 m/s)) + ((0.5) x (4 kg) x (0.01 m/s) x (0.01 m/s)). The last inequality unambiguously shows the invalidity of the law of conservation of mechanical energy in this particular case. 
6) How to reduce friction inside the zigzag channels? The answer is simple -- by using permanent magnet slides. (There are literally hundreds of permanent magnet slide designs in YouTube and in Google.) Please look at the links below for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQH2UhHss6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXQqfIb-NXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4VGJCZUYE
7) The permanent magnet slide design:
a) reduces friction (and the related generated heat) practically to zero;
b) reduces the experimental error (due to friction and to the related generated heat) practically to zero.
8) And if the above mentioned experimental error is practically equal to zero, then this experimental error can be neglected (as it is much smaller than 1 %).
9) Alternatively you can use electrostatic levitation, rolling friction instead of sliding friction, etc. Besides modern tribology (this is the science, which focuses on sliding/friction phenomena) suggests a great variety of high-tech materials and/or lubricants' which are also able to reduce sliding friction (and the related generated heat) practically to zero.
10) In one word, you can carry out easily the above mentioned experiments in your garage or in any standard school laboratory (or by using any other simple DIY (DoItYourself) methods).
Looking forward to your comments.
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P. S. The above yellow head with the black spectacles must be read as number 8. (The system generates some permanent defect.)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #667 on: May 12, 2021, 03:01:41 PM »
The yellow head with the black spectacles from our last post must be read as number 8. (The system generates some permanent defect.)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #668 on: May 12, 2021, 04:06:31 PM »
In free space, a mass moving against a curved track will cause the track to move in such a way that allows the mass to move in a straight line.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #669 on: May 12, 2021, 04:24:45 PM »
To  Jerry Volland.
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You are simply an absolute amateur in the field of theoretical and applied mechanics for sure. You do not actually understand what are you talking about. Firstly educate seriously yourself in the field of theoretical and applied mechanics and just then take part in this discussion. Because otherwise you resemble a clown!   

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #670 on: May 13, 2021, 01:53:00 AM »
A Master of the martial arts was taking his afternoon nap, sleeping on a bamboo mat in the corner of his dojo, when a student burst in, with some news he just had to tell the Master. So he rushed over to wake the Master, whereupon the Master picked up a stick and whomped the daylights out of the student, without even waking up. The moral of the story: let sleeping Masters lie.


It is not for me to wake you up before you're ready.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #671 on: May 13, 2021, 02:34:06 AM »
@George1

There you go abusing the members again.  Not good. Chill out.
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@Jerry Volland

Please excuse George he's a youngster.
                  but
Speaking of clowns..

Did you hear the one about the two cannibals ?

One walks up and asks the other "what's you cooking ?"

The other replies "clown"
Then passing a big spoon full,  asks " this taste funny to you ?"

 

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