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Offline gyulasun

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Re: TD replications
« Reply #286 on: March 28, 2020, 12:24:24 PM »
Hi Carroll,
This link works, thanks for showing your setup.  Perhaps with a pulsed stepper motor to turn the stator magnet always into the right "rotor receiving" position, a "highly" efficient motor could be had.  8)
Gyula

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Re: TD replications
« Reply #287 on: March 28, 2020, 01:12:16 PM »
This indeed looks like some form of V-gate, it looks like that increasingly greater attraction of every next magnet makes it to accelerate. Thus there is no overunity, and bringing it out of the sticking point takes more energy than can be obtained from the rotation.

Why to try something that is a design that in theory has no overunity, instead of experimenting with something that in theory has overunity. Just blindly trying whether there maybe is overunity, is what overunity research supposed to be? No. Is that interesting? In my opinion, no, but i'm interested in overunity, maybe for some who is just interested in doing some tricks with magnets, i don't know.


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Re: TD replications
« Reply #288 on: March 28, 2020, 05:04:20 PM »
Carrol thx for posting.
Note to member aye aye
Do you think it would be possible for you to keep to your own Topics or threads when asked by OP/thread starters here ?





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Re: TD replications
« Reply #289 on: March 28, 2020, 05:23:23 PM »
Do you think it would be possible for you to keep to your own Topics or threads when asked by OP/thread starters here ?

These threads are for everyone, no?


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Re: TD replications
« Reply #290 on: March 28, 2020, 05:44:14 PM »
aye aye Many members here take great issue with your unwanted and unsolicited input .

I must admit to not reading here anymore due to your constant redundant negative contributions.
And now I hear request to install moderation in the topic ?
why not start your own builders topic ?
Floor and others here have been building and experimenting for quite some time.
When such persons can't share their work in their own topics due to ......?
the result will be self evident ...
running around a "jobsite" or lab or anyplace people of like mind are trying to build and
jumping in with repeated redundant comments and distractions ??
how many times do you have to be asked ??








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Re: TD replications
« Reply #291 on: March 28, 2020, 06:01:27 PM »
aye aye Many members here take great issue with your unwanted and unsolicited input .

Many members, who are they, Floor and Citfta, who have personally attacked me a number of times. I don't consider them objective. Do i have a body, no?

Unsolicited input? Who i have to ask permission to post in this forum? I have not seen anywhere such forum rules, so i cannot even see what i'm accused of. If you accuse someone, the first you supposed to say is what you accuse one of, this is how it normally should be. Not a single real reason has been said.


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Re: TD replications
« Reply #292 on: March 28, 2020, 06:20:24 PM »
@norman6538

Nice work / thanks for time spent,

It has become a pleasent task to read your observations / ideas so on.

Thanks for bumping up the clairity a notch.

   best wishes
            floor




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Re: TD replications
« Reply #293 on: April 06, 2020, 06:15:55 PM »
All right CITFTA !

good luck with it.

     PS

      Its Bloch not block..  My eye sight is sometimes not so good any more either.

             regards
                  floor

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Re: TD replications
« Reply #294 on: May 17, 2020, 04:46:23 PM »
Hi Floor,

Hope all is well for you.
I thought you may be interested in a youtube users work named Raymondslab
His present magnet research reminds me of the effect of your Twist drive but used in a different way.

No. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7c5d3f8sU

No. 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1B9NnRUMvU

No. 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gBfaLPlMJA

Regards
Luc

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Re: TD replications
« Reply #295 on: May 19, 2020, 03:47:18 AM »
Thanks GoTo Luk

   floor

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Re: TD replications
« Reply #296 on: May 19, 2020, 05:38:37 AM »
@Telecom

Re: TD replications
« Reply #276 on: February 29, 2020, 09:04:09 PM »

    Quote

I think the main problem with TD is that its using weight which it lifts
for the resetting itself.
So, if you use part of the weight going down for the external work, the resetting will be affected.

End Quote


If  Newtons observations are valid (they seem to be)....  Then it should require some thing like
115 grams on the RO (over 44 degrees of travel ? if I am remembering correctly)  to lift the 105 grams on SL by 22 degrees on the SL.... and It does this in the videos.  Work in > work out... in reverse.

                                     Note
SL input really only needs about 80 grams (average force) if / when input weight is changed / integrated over the 22 degrees approach of SL toward RO, while the 115 grams RO is simultaneously lifted.  But RO does lift 105 grams by that 22 degrees SL, does it not ?

It surly is a curious device...

If input on SL is returned when the SL weight falls back to its start position, are we not, getting that input back ?  Zero net input ?

What then is, the RO ? Output ?  Is RO output, even if is self cancels / undoes ?  After all, the input
also self cancels / is gotten back doesn't it ?   Or is the input  (SL) gotten back + more ?

Who knows ?  Only an actual replicator / precise replicator knows for sure.....

Something's moving.

An aside...

By closing the gap (while sliding) to very near to zero (less gap than I  typically demonstrate), I have gotten the RO to lift 130 grams.

That increase to 130 grams also means the RO hangs at / balances with SL to RO force, at about 50 degrees RO, while SL is at 22 degrees distance  (SL).

   floor

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Re: TD replications
« Reply #297 on: May 19, 2020, 02:18:36 PM »
Continued

floor Quote
"But RO does lift 105 grams by that 22 degrees SL, does it not ?"
End floor Quote

NO it doesn't.

floor Quote
Or is the input  (SL) gotten back + more ?
end floor Quote

NO it isn't.

Still, there is some thing elegant about the the T.D. interactions.  Like the long duration of a pendulums' swinging, elegant.  Although, if we draw energy off that swing we directly reduce it.

The T.D. is a little like worm drive gears, but this analogy doesn't fit exactly.  There is no physical
/ mechanical / rigid linkage between RO and SL.

The T.D. is a little like two pulleys sharing a common axle.  One pulley having twice the diameter of the other pulley.  The larger diameter pulley weight string, loaded with 1/2 the weight of the smaller pulley.

But this isn't a good fit either, because in the pulley scenario, the combined weight  / mass / inertia of the weight objects, is 3 times the weight of the weight which hangs upon the larger pulley (the LONG side of the lever).   

In the T.D. scenario the the combined weight  / mass / inertia of the weight objects, is a little more than 2 times the weight of the weight which hangs upon the SL unit (the SHORT side of the lever).

Up to this point, perhaps the most valuable / clearly understood (by me) thing I have gotten out of the T.D., has been the concept of force neutralization by creation of a near balance between attracting and repelling forces.

Thanks much for the keen observations / critique.

    best wishes
               floor

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Re: TD replications
« Reply #298 on: May 20, 2020, 07:09:49 PM »
Floor Please contact Stefan on your New board [he needs the name for it?..what to call it ?]

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Re: TD replications
« Reply #299 on: May 23, 2020, 08:26:59 PM »
Regarding...      Its Bloch not block.

Just spoke to a gentleman in the back yard at my home.  He said he was from Irelan and that his name was Paddy O' Furniture. He insisted that its pronounced bloke wall.

Just goes to show ya.

PS
 Hows the shielding going !

             regards
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