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Offline Low-Q

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #75 on: March 13, 2019, 10:18:20 PM »
Some inventors from the past stated that electric generators do no convert mechanical energy into electric current. Such opinion looks crazy to us but after investigation I take it seriously. There is no direct relationship between magnetic field produced and the input power of electric circuit. Ampere turns and mass of the iron core is the only limit.I believe now ,that generators do not convert mechanical energy into electricity, they condense magnetic field lines into electric current, probably taking the excess from external Earth field.It's so intense that even now I still need a proof and sometimes lost my conviction....sadly I don't expect anything to change in near future - probably no scientist would take it seriously without strong proof.
But it's here, it's a very important concept and it may save the world
Hmmm, If it works as you suggest, all generators and motors should have saved the world since Tesla invented the AC-generator. Just because possible discoveries is not known untill today doesn't mean that they did not exist before we discovered them.


What I do know, is that the mechanical energy you use to turn a generator match perfectly to what you get out in electric energy. So I cannot say there is any significant difference between the two that will save the world.
However, you are a free man, and free to believe what you want, but please don't say you believe that the earth is flat...(Pun intended)


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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
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Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2019, 12:02:25 AM »
The real reason why free energy is possible because electrons are almost no weight.
Weight is just apply when there is an essence of gravity.


That is why earth is floating and it has no reason were to fall even it want,
Therefore we conclude that there is no such thing as weight just pull.
And therefore the continues pull makes a movement and creates free energy and also there leads to free energy or overunity. Whoooooh
 :D ;D 8)

It is a matter of pull and push why things possible. A really just a matter of concentration. 8) ;)


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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2019, 01:02:07 AM »
The real reason why free energy is possible because electrons are almost no weight.
Weight is just apply when there is an essence of gravity.


That is why earth is floating and it has no reason were to fall even it want,
Therefore we conclude that there is no such thing as weight just pull.
And therefore the continues pull makes a movement and creates free energy and also there leads to free energy or overunity. Whoooooh
 :D ;D 8)

It is a matter of pull and push why things possible. A really just a matter of concentration. 8) ;)


Free tits ;D


Excactly!


It's just a matter of finding the nipples!

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2019, 02:15:39 PM »
Why it can be possible,  short  ;D explaination :
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE102012016225A1/en

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2019, 04:24:26 PM »
Low-Q

"What I do know, is that the mechanical energy you use to turn a generator match perfectly to what you get out in electric energy" - what physics law describe this ? Can you find exact one explaining why mechanical energy should be converted into electric energy ? It is an assumption.The only applicable is Faraday law but where does  it state that mechanical energy is converted into electrical in 1:1 ratio ?
The mechanical energy of current generators are used to fight the attraction force between two electromagnets of running mass of iron. The more the output the larger field produced the bigger attraction then more mechanical force needed to turn shaft and mass of iron of generator.As simple as this. Measure the field intensity of loaded generator and construct the bigger one with more iron mass but without moving anything except the output coil.



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Offline F6FLT

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #80 on: March 17, 2019, 10:16:20 AM »
Overunity is NOT possible, energy is conserved in our universe. But we don't care about type 1 perpetual motion machines, we're here to get around the problem.

The main point is that the system must be only apparently overunity, freely recovering energy from a place where it is useless (ZPE, heat...) to put it where it is needed.

Remember that the goal is NOT to get overunity but to get free energy. It does not matter which method is used as long as the result is there. Don't be ideological, but pragmatic.


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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #81 on: March 17, 2019, 10:29:02 AM »
THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF FREE ENERGY IS EFFICIENCY, AND ONE NEEDS
TO KNOW WHERE THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM.. THE MOST ABANDON ENERGY
SOURCE IS HEAT ENERGY..AND YET NOT ONE HAS CREATED A FREE ENERGY HEAT PUMP
MACHINE.

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #82 on: March 17, 2019, 12:26:27 PM »
Hello seychelles,
the free electric heat pump exists, it is called  reversible thermoelectric converter !

to differ : efficiency eta= <100%
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCarnot-Wirkungsgrad

and the coefficient of ( work cycle)  performance :  C. O. P.  : > 100%
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLeistungszahl



1982: Ex-GDR Dr.Helmut Reichelt et al.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910228&CC=DD&NR=287597A5&KC=A5#

( you have to go to " original document" and then translate German to f.e. English )

He is on a good way  ;) to reinvent the above relatively easy method
https://overunity.com/18179/solving-the-energy-leakage-problem-with-my-batteries/msg532602/#new



1994 : Dr. Joseph C. Yater

   As heat pump, refrigerator, amplifier (generator, loudspeaker,.....)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A#

Similar, but not reversible :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20020514&CC=US&NR=6385972B1&KC=B1#

And : http://www.coolchips.gi/technology/ccalc.shtml and " power chips" research

Carnot-thermal dynamic cycle and Carnot electro dynamic cycle ( reversible resonant circuit)

Free energy and over-/under unity devices :the " unity" is not a physical,not a technical, it is a mathematical unit :
                                                               
                                                                 time/ work related
                it is a passive device ( no technical input) then  each energy output = " free energy"             
                physically not over-unity  : solar cells conversion efficiency < 100%, wind force Betz-limit et cet.

it is an active cycle/circuit input unit=1 then the output and process C. O. P.  is a. < 1= under-unity b.>1= over-unity

Electric heat pump ( conventional product air/air) : average  C.O.P. 2,5 from 1 KWh electrical grid power view
  1 KWh consumer power ( end energy)  output ~ 2,5 KWh electric power plant net power( primary energy) input
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.haustec.de%2Fheizung%2Fwaermeerzeugung%2Fwaermepumpen-praxistest-die-effizienz-ist-niedriger-als-erwartet

                                                             C.O.P. 2,5 heat / 2,5 primary energy : circuit factor = 1             

   
                                                             power system losts recuperation
And the final calculation : with better systems you do only produce in our network circuit
"global thermic emission factor 1", a long society way to " global emission factor 0" and later " global emission  near factor -1" which is the target !

                                  We have a "(bad) positive (lagging)efficiency" ~ AIDS POSITIVE ,         

                      but the way is to "(good) negative (leading)efficiency"~ AIDS NEGATIVE

                                         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_factor                                 
                    From "lagging power factor society" to "leading power factor society"
                      1             -           ZERO POSITIVE/NEGATIVE -            -1
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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #83 on: March 17, 2019, 08:41:41 PM »

Overunity is not required and whether energy is conserved or not should not overly concern us when looking for abundant energy around us.

Let’s talk for instance about solar panels. If you take electric energy from a solar panel (while the sun shines on it) you get overunity energy and energy is not conserved if you only take planet earth into account. And for all practical purposes planet earth is all that counts when talking about electricity from a solar panel.

The sun will shine at least a further 100 million years; therefore, the sun is an infinite source of energy looked at from planet earth. It is futile to talk about something 100 million years in the future (when the sun has spent more of its energy than today).

So, solar energy on planet earth is “overunity” and energy is not conserved (as long as you forget that the sun is not overunity and conservative in its energy habits in the very long run). But for now (and in the coming at least 100 million years) it can be considered as an overunty source of energy which hurts energy conservation.

In short, let’s look for sources of energy which last for millions of years (like light from then sun) and we are done.


In fact, we are done, as long as we accept solar panels as a good source of energy. Then we add wind power, tidal power and geothermal energy. And I am sure more can be found.

Yes, I know, one day the sun will be spent and planet earth will be no more. But that should not limit us to use what is there in front of us for at least 100 million years and we start to worry about overunity and energy conservation if humankind is still alive after 100 million years.

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #84 on: March 17, 2019, 09:26:39 PM »



timan ou pulsing magnet core coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSODFYCqQH8&t=624s

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #85 on: March 17, 2019, 10:33:23 PM »


timan ou pulsing magnet core coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSODFYCqQH8&t=624s
synchro1,good link ,I thank you  !
And clearly also him, TinMan,  for these https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vcUfMQv7aAI  video.

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #86 on: March 17, 2019, 10:36:15 PM »
Sun is  shining at night also while solar panels of today are useless at night. Let's build solar panel working at night also collecting everlasting energy of universe, not limited to 100 millions years. That's all around us.

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« Reply #87 on: March 17, 2019, 10:45:13 PM »
Sun is  shining at night also while solar panels of today are useless at night. Let's build solar panel working at night also collecting everlasting energy of universe, not limited to 100 millions years. That's all around us.
One-step-by-the-other :
https://overunity.com/16681/24365-solar-cell-output-theory-and-experiments/60/
Not forgotten,  in progress also through falling solar cell prices : actually 20 Cents/Wp( TR-production)

But with right calculation :
When 1sqm 15% solar-panel works 30 years and 900 full hours per year this gives you +/- 5400 KWh output.

Permanent these solar generator using means :
 5400 KWh : 8766 ( hours per year)  : 200W ( 15% from 1333 Solarpeak) ~ 3 years lifetime
Important for the KWh- power generating price calculation,  or R. O. I.

Problem : we have not time duration experience with the latest thin film / foil solar cell technology                  and for short life generator I do not accept long life prices  and A-Grade quality  !

                      Costs reference for the market :
      Alvin Marks 1984 Lumilight 1/2 year lifetime tandem photovoltaic cell-foils for 1 US$/sqm production
                 
      costs and 56,25%( 75%*75%) light conversion efficiency :
                                1333 * 56,25% = 750 Wp/sqm. 

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    When 1984 1US$/750Wp and square- meter production costs then 2019 a fair market price is :
                              1 US Dollar-Cent per Wattpeak end consumer selling price  !                                   

                               Or: 7,5 US-Dollars per sqm solar panel

                                      Dr. Alvin wished to sell these sqm 1984 for 15 US$/sqm                       

                                                ( 15x  costs/consumer price lever )

                                    Patent-rights free market ware is ever 70% less expensive  !
       
Not to forget : the translucent liquid solar cell R&D and the "solar dots"- ink

                          spray-or/print able micro-technology     

       

        https://www.greenoptimistic.com/green-ferrite-solar-cell-japan-20110920/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00150193.2017.1349913?scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=gfer20

And storage R&D :
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/research-news/battery-lasts-200000-cycles-2016-05/

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #88 on: March 18, 2019, 03:30:58 PM »
THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF FREE ENERGY IS EFFICIENCY, AND ONE NEEDS
TO KNOW WHERE THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM.. THE MOST ABANDON ENERGY
SOURCE IS HEAT ENERGY..AND YET NOT ONE HAS CREATED A FREE ENERGY HEAT PUMP
MACHINE.
Tell that Dennis Lee guy who ended up in the brig for doing just that !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=02FFlBLax-Q

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #89 on: March 18, 2019, 05:39:54 PM »
The Over unity Gain Timan measures from pulsing his magnet core coil emanates from the quanta like the electricity generated by a thermocouple of two differing metals when heated. The magnet generates electricity when it reorders it's electrons and it passes to the coil through induction and is not related to any magnet field Faraday generating effect; Direcrtly from the molecular level.

 

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