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Author Topic: Why Over-Unity is Possible  (Read 61842 times)

Turbo

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2016, 08:41:59 AM »
Think twice how is the current generated by induction and you will be struck by this simple fact.

You should ask yourself this question and it's not a simple fact.

You want to talk about facts, Mister Forrest?
« Last Edit: November 24, 2016, 01:11:29 PM by Turbo »

that_prophet

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2017, 04:10:40 PM »
over-unity is easily done with pulleys, mechanically multiplying rotations + since AC electricity is made by using rotations,
you are actually multiplying you AC electricity,,,, it is truly that simple
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.       This is so dirt simple that you will kick yourself, after you discover just how super simple this technology truly is. How is AC electricity made, by using rotations of a coil through a magnetic field, and we can use a set of varying sized pulleys to multiply your total # of rotations. So, we can effectively multiply our amount of AC electricity by using simple pulley mechanics.
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.      This GEM = (Geometrical Electricity Multiplication) technology is super simple, http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ and is based on basic pulley mechanics. In it, you pay a small amount of DC electricity to rotate a large 100 cm circumference pulley one single time, (one mere spark). Then you run the 100 cm of moving belt, (off the 100 cm of circumference) past a mini-pulley of only one centimeter circumference, giving you 100 rotations, which you covert into 100 cycles of AC electricity, by simply adding an AC generator to it. You are merely using the 100 cm of belt that you get off the single rotation of a 100 cm circumference + by running this length of belt by a 1 cm circumference pulley, with an AC generator attached.
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.     Now, you have just multiplied your single burst of DC current into 100 cycles of AC electricity. Please don’t listen to the mythical torque problem, because there is no torque problem. This AC generator is running practically torque free, because all that it has to generate is the single burst of DC current that your DC drive motor takes to make one rotation. And please remember, that you get 100 cycles of AC electricity to generate this single “spark” of DC current to power your drive motor, so this is generating practically zero current, divided by 100.
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.     If you run wires from your AC generator output, + put them into the input of a full wave bridge rectifier,(4 diodes) + then run wires from the DC output of your full wave bridge rectifier, into the input of your DC drive motor, you should have a working mechanism. This perpetual free energy generator mechanism is complete, + you should be able to start it running by merely rotating the large pulley by hand, a quarter turn.
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.     Please don’t listen to the torque problem, as it is non-existent. This AC generator is pretty much free floating, as for all of its 100 rotations, it only has to generate one small spark of DC current. That is one small spark of current, that is divided by 100, so you only have to generate 1/100th of a spark of current per rotation, or 1/100th of practically nothing.
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.     You must have your AC generator + your DC drive motor of the same voltage.
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.     This is so simple + cheap to build guys + gals, please build one to prove it works,,,
I live in a nursing home, so I cannot even have the simple tools to build this with. This is so dirt simple + easy to build, that satan is laughing his as? Off, at how gullible we simple humans are. But he will get his just deserts, when Jesus returns in His Glory, before the second door close on 2025.94 = 2019.04(door for rapture) + 6.9(7 Hebrew years = 2520 days) http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/
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.     So we have less than 19 months to live, before all born again followers of Christ, only those who are looking for His Return, will vanish off this earth in the Rapture = “blessed hope” http://my2020vision.yolasite.com/ http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/

forest

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2017, 09:04:29 PM »
Mister Turboo
If you find a single case of electric induction generator working without magnetic field you can apply for the Nobel Prize
meanwhile do not spam this thread with useless pictures

endlessoceans

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2017, 02:52:25 AM »
It is very very simple. take a coil, power with dc, measure field.Take a ferromagnetic core insert into and measure field. You have found OU.

WRONG!!  Again

See its with daft statements like these that you Tito/Forest/Whatever show how uninformed you are.

The above having been said, the error in your experiment was the ACCURATE measurement of the wattage used in each repulsion test of different magnets of different strengths.  Measure total wattage from your battery.  Yes, the voltage may have been 9VDC in each case, but the current was much higher due to the higher inductive force with iron core.

If youre going to troll around here and drop extraordinary statements then this requires extraordinary proof.  Make a little coil with a supercap and diode and then put your iron core or magnet in whatever arrangement you like, pot it in resin so we cant see it, then show a lit LED and the climbing measurement of the voltage in the supercap.  EASY you say....abundant energy you claim.  Solder it up in 10 mins no problem.

Either that or shutup

forest

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2017, 03:34:31 PM »
what is "inductive force with iron core" ? coil has no inductive reactance for DC or pulse DC
the same coil with or without iron core has different strength of magnetic field and that's the main reason for different induced EMF

that_prophet

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2017, 04:59:34 PM »
TIME IS SHORT = the Pre-Trib Rapture + the infamous 7 year Peace Treaty with Israel MUST START before this 1ST DOOR closes on 2019.04 = Jan 14th http://my2020vision.yolasite.com/ - “know that it is near, even at the doors”,(Mat 24:33) http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/.
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Free Energy + perpetual motion can be easily produced using pulleys, costing only the minuscule bit of power that it takes to rotate a DC motor with a large 100 cm circumference pulley one single time. You can gain or multiply massive amounts of AC electricity using mini-pulleys with AC generators. You are capable of doing this by running this long length of belt, (off the circumference of large pulley) past a few 1 cm circumference mini-pulleys, with AC generators attached. This GEM-(Geometrical Electricity Multiplier) device is gaining you 100 cycles of AC electricity, for every mini-pulley that you choose to attach to this sane belt. So, if you added 10 mini-pulleys, you could get a return of 1000=10X100 cycles of AC electricity, and all costing you only one mere spark of DC current. How could you not be multiplying AC electricity, when you are using simple pulley mechanics to trade one spark of DC current, for 100-1000 cycles of AC electricity-(duel sparks).
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This super simple free energy technology: http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ works on the ability of combinations of pulleys being able to easily + freely multiply your total # of rotations. You can do this because of the fact that you don’t have to expend 100 times more electricity to rotate a large 100 cm circumference pulley, than it takes to rotate a 1 cm circumference mini-pulley. Yet if you run the 100 cm of moving belt, that comes off the one rotation of a large 100 cm pulley, past any # of mini-pulleys of 1 cm, then you could gain a return of 100 rotations for every mini-pulley that you choose to attach to the same belt. (As for torque, it only comes from generating power, and power is voltage multiplied by current) + We only need to produce one single spark of DC current to make this a self-powering mechanism. So one spark of DC current, (which is practically nothing) multiplied by even massive voltage, would still equal practically zero power, which takes practically zero torque to rotate.
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This multiplication of rotations could be extremely helpful, if you only added AC generators to these mini-pulleys, you could be multiplying the total cycles of AC electricity. This AC generator takes no torque to rotate, because although it would be winding up massive voltage, it does not need to be winding up practically any current-(1 mere spark) which is practically zero. Torque is only caused when you are generating power, and you are generating practically zero power, as power is equal to voltage times current. So, no matter how massive of voltage you are generating, it is multiplied by practically zero current, as we only need one spark of current, or practically zero. This works because zero times anything is still equal to zero, and practically zero works the same way.
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What is AC electricity, + how is it made = it is made out of the easy rotations of coils of wire through a magnetic field of two oppositely positioned magnets right. Using pulley technology, we can easily + freely convert one rotation of a large 100 cm circumference pulley, into 100 rotations of as many 1 cm circumference mini-pulleys that we choose to attach to the same belt that comes off of your large pulley. So, if you added 10 mini-pulleys to this same belt, and added AC generators to each mini-pulley, you could gain you 1000 = 100X10 cycles of AC electricity.
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All these cycles of AC electricity are from the single burst of DC electricity, which is the small amount of current that a DC motor takes to rotate one single time =(one mere spark). These cycles of AC electricity would cost practically zero torque to rotate, as torque is only caused when you are generating power, and you are not generating practically any power in this system. This is because although you may be winding up massive voltage,(electrical pressure) to keep this GEM mechanism running, you only need to generate one single spark of DC current, and P=IV, or power equals current multiplied by voltage.
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So your total power output would be practically zero current multiplied by any amount of voltage, which would still be equal to practically zero power, taking practically zero torque. So, you could be easily + freely generating massive amounts of rotations of these mini-pulleys, which are generating you massive voltage, or the ability/potential to gain plenty of current, which will allow you to produce plenty of power. This is because the greater the voltage/pressure, the greater the ease that there is to generate more current. PLEASE,,, let me show you how ridiculous this mythical torque problem really is. Do you think that the 100 cycles of AC electricity would have a hard time producing the single spark of DC current, which is all that you need to crank over your DC motor once, with your 100 cm circumference pulley attached?
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Mankind was given the best Gift from God, (other than Jesus) http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ right here in Atlantic Canada + just before the infamous 7 years Peace Treaty. This seven years of time, which the 2nd half of is the Great Tribulation, is when this GEM tech will be needed most. This will be the worst time for earth, where not only is there constant war, but most all of the evil fallen angels, and the Nephilum , will be sent to the earth. Nephilum are the offspring of fallen angels + human women, as angels are all male, because God only wanted there to be a set # of angels. This is not only the ones that are still alive, but also the spirits of all that have died. This could be massive amounts of evil spirits, considering that this includes the ones from before the flood. (How can we be billions of years old, when the moon will leave orbit within 10,000 years) + all orbiting bodies will have messed up orbits, because of this yearly amount of space debris adding mass.
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This is free energy technology, which we all will need and love, as it has practically no cost to run, and there is no need for any fuel to be purchased. Nor would there be any exhaust to cause environmental or noise pollution. So,,, why haven’t we figured this simple little bit of technology out long ago? Evil spirits are, and have been hiding this simple technology from mankind. These AC generators are extremely easy to rotate, because the only resistance torque,(other than the viscosity of the lubricant in the bearings) would come from a great need for current, which would practically never happen, especially when you are dealing with such small amounts of power as the example that I describe here.
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I confirmed that this free energy technology, discovered in the early 2000’s, was from God + not from evil forces, by finding it in a UFO motor description in Ezekiel 1:16. Thankfully, there are many ways that we can freely multiply the total # of rotations, like a set of varied sized pulleys, can be easily used to multiply the total # of rotations. Then, by simply adding an AC generator to your mini-pulley, you can convert your rotations into cycles of AC electricity.
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This is one super simple GEM of an idea, and it is made from pre-school technology, so why was this not out long ago. Can you believe the power that evil spirits have, to be able to dumb down a whole population of humans + for so long. I still have problems getting people to believe that there is no torque problem. Think that this may actually be a good enough reason for you to find out if GOD IS REAL = http://beliefstoliveby.yolasite.com/ + if HE IS RETURNING SOON = http://my2020vision.yolasite.com/
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Do you want to hear how truly super simple this technology is, Where you only pay to crank over the DC motor one time, with a 100 cm circumference pulley, Then you use the 100 cm of moving belt off this large pulley circumference, + run it past one or more mini-pulleys of only one centimeter circumferences, All that you have to do is add an AC generator to these mini-pulleys, giving you a free return of 100’s of cycles of AC electricity. That’s one small pulse of DC current as an input, returning you 100 cycles of AC electricity output, How can you not multiply your AC electricity, with this rotation multiplication technology
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IT IS TRULLY THAT SIMPLE
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Come on Nova Scotia,,,
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This is where this GEM-(Geometrical Electricity Multiplier) technology of free energy for the End Times was 1st started, (early 2000’s when He first shared this with me). Let's get out there and start taking advantage of it, by not only building GEM units to power all of our electric tools, toys + gadgets, but we could be starting companies that have electric appliances, utensils, devices, tools, toys, + gadgets with these GEM perpetual power supplies built into them, (let’s start letting electricity generate itself) + on our labels we could even proudly say "FIGHTING TERRORISM + FIGHTING POLLUTION"

that_prophet

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2017, 05:00:27 PM »
PROOF OF CREATION + A YOUNG EARTH = (space dust) has mass + billions of years of dust would add up eventually + mess up the orbits of all planets + moons. We could measure the amount of dust on the moon, and divide the total by the amount of dust that is deposited every year, coming up with an age for the moon, and thereby finding out the age of our earth. Most of us have seen pictures of the moon landing, and realize that there is only a few centimeters, meaning that by the deposit of space dust, the moon has only been orbiting us for a few thousand years. Less than 10,000 year
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COME ON,,, ALL OF YOU BACK YARD MECHANICS,,, Get some AC + DC motors together of the same voltage, and start building these GEM free energy power supplies,, + not only for 1.5, 3, 6, 9 + 12 volt batteries, but household 120 volt, + 12 volt, to powering these new electric cars. Let's throw the oil companies out of work, producing toxic smoke + maybe even make money with them, by throwing any excess power from these perpetually running energy generators that we have the time, + small amount of money to purchase parts to build. Think of it as not only keeping money in your pocket, but you are keeping money from the countries that either fund terrorist, or which are unknowingly funding them. This is not to mention the experimenting that we could be doing with the anti-gravity + speeds approaching light speed. Now I know that there are many out there like me, which would enjoy knowing how one type of this motor was powering a UFO in the Bible, in Ezekiel 1:16. http://aliensandghosts.yolasite.com/
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Most people have heard that the "day + hour knoweth no man"-(Mat 24:36), but why does nobody mention the soon arriving doors that we are not only allowed to know, but in the original Greek, it is worded like a command = “know that it is near, even at the doors”,,, + that 1st Door will close on 2019.04 + the last Door will close on 2025.94. So we are guaranteed that Jesus will set His foot on the Mount of Olives before the year 2026.
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Did you ever wonder how you could know that it’s near, if we can’t know the day. Near to what then, maybe it’s near to the door/deadline = "know that it is near, even at the doors" Mat 24:33. Doors are plural, because of the two appearances of Jesus, the first is in the clouds,(Rapture) http://rapturequestion.yolasite.com/ before the 7 year peace treaty is signed + then His second arrival is as His Foot touches earth, on the Mount of Olives. DOOR = (this is not the date of His Arrival, which we are warned that nobody can know, but this is the date that Christ must return before) A day that the Tribulation Saints will not only know, but they will probably being counting down the days until. = (He Returns when the 7 year peace treaty ends)
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EVil-sOLUTION = isn’t it amazing what Truth can be revealed, when the “il-s” of life are included. http://decimationofthisevolutionfairytale.yolasite.com/
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I can give you a free to run, perpetual power supply = http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ This GEM mechanism can do this because of how AC electricity is created by rotations. as in the more rotations the greater amount of AC electricity, and pulleys can be used to multiply rotations. So, you are using pulley mechanics to multiply your total amount of AC electricity, by trading one rotation of a large 100 cm circumference pulley, into 100 rotations of as many 1 cm circumference pulleys as you choose to add to the same belt. If you add AC generators to these mini-pulleys then you could be multiplying AC electricity. If you added 4 of these mini-pulleys with AC generators attached, you would gain 400 cycles of AC electricity, and all for the single burst of DC current, the minute amount of current that a DC motor takes to rotate one single time.
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These mini-pulleys would be easy to rotate, as the only resistance that they would generate, would be caused by any power that they were generating. These mini-pulleys would only be winding up massive voltages, because the only current needed to rotate your large 100 cm pulley on a DC motor, is one simple spark, or short burst, the amount to rotate your large pulley only one single time. Torque is only caused when you are generating power, and power is generated by current multiplied by voltage. Since we only need one single spark of current, (practically zero) the total amount of power being generated would still be practically zero, costing practically zero torque.
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This was given to mankind before the first door closes = http://my2020vision.yolasite.com/
Especially for the soon coming Tribulation Saints http://doorschristmustpassthrough.yolasite.com/
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Sorry if it offends you, that I add a little bit of Biblical stuff in my explanations, but when I came up with this super simple idea, it was just after asking God for a way to help the Tribulation Saints. Just think about how super simple this AC electricity multiplier truly is, and how the voices in your head tell you that it cannot work. When how much more simple can it be, then to only pay for the one rotation of a large 100 cm pulley, when you can get a return of 100 cycle of AC electricity, for every 1 cm mini-pulley that you attach to the same belt, (with AC generators attached). Yes that’s an input of one single spark of DC current, returning you 100 cycles of AC electricity for every mini-pulley that you attach to the same belt. If you only added 4 mini-pulleys, you would get a return of 40 cycles of AC electricity. Please remember, that there is a most powerful spiritual warfare going on over this GEM technology.
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There is a most powerful spiritual warfare going on over this GEM technology. Can you believe the problems that I have had, getting this super simple way of using pulleys to multiply the total amount of AC cycles of electricity? I think that it’s totally ridiculous, when you truly take a close look at it. Pulleys can be used to multiply the # of rotations, and AC electricity is made of rotations of a coil through a magnetic field. It should be dirt simple, as you are using pulleys to multiply your total # of rotations, and AC electricity is made of rotations, so you are effectively multiplying AC electricity. .

lltfdaniel1

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2017, 07:02:54 PM »
WRONG!!  Again

See its with daft statements like these that you Tito/Forest/Whatever show how uninformed you are.

The above having been said, the error in your experiment was the ACCURATE measurement of the wattage used in each repulsion test of different magnets of different strengths.  Measure total wattage from your battery.  Yes, the voltage may have been 9VDC in each case, but the current was much higher due to the higher inductive force with iron core.

If youre going to troll around here and drop extraordinary statements then this requires extraordinary proof.  Make a little coil with a supercap and diode and then put your iron core or magnet in whatever arrangement you like, pot it in resin so we cant see it, then show a lit LED and the climbing measurement of the voltage in the supercap.  EASY you say....abundant energy you claim.  Solder it up in 10 mins no problem.

Either that or shutup

I view everything as energy extraction, so it is possible it is taking energy from the magnet and the magnet will degrade in strength.

Am i correct?

I think it isn't overunity via energy extraction, but it is saving energy thanks to the added energy from the magnet.

Unless you add lots of magnets the more energy you save until you break the cop 1 threshold, it will be like a passenger jet breaking the sound barrier for sure so you have to be careful because this driving force of above cop 1 will not slow down unless your extractors limit it or have a rpm controller.

This cop 1 will be alike a water hammer effect when you break cop 1 gives you a water hammer effect.

But the energy comes from the magnets and will get weaker and weaker.

And some reason the magnets here will not be extracting energy from the environment.

Unless you can get a magnet to do that then there is no point in using magnet energy alone and this magnet energy does not give electrical power.

And in any case energy that breaks cop 1 is unbalanced all by it's self, knowing there is different energys to extract so i cannot comment on what the magnets will extract unless there is a method i don't know the precise name of energy.

Look like i am correct about the water hammer Water hammer[/font][/size] (or, more generally, [/font][/size]fluid hammer[/font][/size]) is a [/font][/size]pressure[/font][/size] surge or wave caused when a [/font][/size]fluid[/font][/size] (usually a liquid but sometimes also a gas) in motion is forced to stop or change direction suddenly (momentum change). A water hammer commonly occurs when a valve closes suddenly at an end of a [/font][/size]pipeline[/font][/size] system, and a pressure wave propagates in the pipe. It is also called [/font][/size]hydraulic shock[/font][/size].[/font][/size]

Extracting energy then running off with extracted energy with some or more to power a load.

I can't believe but science is catching up with energy extraction methods.

I know this with fissures or water hammers or the uttered type of this phenomenon every time it does that it extracts energy each time it does that like a solar panel so then you extract energy via this method then run of completely with this method with power to spare so it will be self sustaining.

Correct me if i am wrong.

So yea if you want overunity use these water hammer of fissures or whatever the zpe energy equivalent is in electrical energy i think i now know how these overunity machines work like bedini sg and the like, they all run off extracted energy with power to spare whilst sustaining the energy extraction.process all by it's self.

So yea you can do this with your magnet energy creating fissures etc and tuning the electric circuit to take advantage of this process, but will be of the magnetic type.

So if you go from minus cop 1 to over cop 1 you create this water hammer effects of the electric kind and this will tap into external energy.

I think many people here know about that.

When put into laymans terms a machine with cop 1 running off the extracted energy to power the energy extraction process and thanks to that have energy to spare to power a load at the same time working like a solar panel but with electric energy.

Right so in electrical energy it is called the cavity effect.

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/cavitationheaters.htm

So this dream is actually is possible.

Well here we go > https://www.hydrodynamics.com/ they sell cavity/water hammer powered products giving cop over 1 which is energy extraction from energy from the environment or whatever.

From  https://www.hydrodynamics.com/cavitation-technology/  As a liquid passes through the SPR it is subjected to “controlled cavitation”.  The heart of the device is a specially designed rotor that spins.  The spinning action generates hydrodynamic cavitation in the rotor cavities away from the metal surfaces.  The cavitation is controlled and therefore there is no damage.  As microscopic cavitation bubbles are produced and collapse, shockwaves are given off into the liquid which can heat and/or mix.

Just sent them an email

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Where can i buy this device using water hammer for electric power.

Cavity extracts energy from the enviroment right?

How about using that extracted energy to power the extraction process?

Do you have such a device that powers the energy extraction process?

Thanks,

Daniel.

At Rome, Georgia Jim Griggs of Hydrodynamics, Inc demonstrated the assembly and operation of a "hydrosonic water pump" which operated over-unity by producing hot water or steam with energy in excess of the electrical energy input to the pump motor. "Over-unity" was confirmed by satisfied customers, including the Albany Fire Station, where engineers from the "local university" and the "local power company" had been called in to verify the over-100% efficiency.

So yea forest add more magnets to bypass the cop 1 threshold and next is to fine tune the system too fully exploit the cavity effect that you most will have, that is what you need to achieve true over unity via energy extraction from the enviroment,

Simple enough have fun, make sure the circuit does not implode in your face.

forest

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2017, 10:42:49 AM »
if magnetic field is the source of electrical energy and the method is induction law then all you need is strong magnetic field and a way to pulse it

pauldude000

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2018, 10:33:00 AM »
Guys, it has been a long while since I started working on OU. Well over a decade now to be precise. I want to point out something. Energy has to come from outside the system you examine to provide OU -- it is that simple.

If you connect a solar cell into a circuit and only examine the voltage provided by a battery within said circuit you will measure OU every time you turn on a light. Once the voltage provided by the solar cell is accounted for in the system, then Over-Unity vanishes.

The same is true of any system: If there is more energy in the system than you can account for, then there is a source of energy providing energy into the system. It will show OU until the source is determined. However, once the source is known the system will be at or below unity again.

The concept of Over-Unity is based upon exploring the unknown, looking for new and previously unknown sources of energy. Physics already accounts for OU in the concept of virtual particles. If you could create a situation where charged virtual particles are released into a system, then these particles will affect and react with stable real particles in the system.

There are quite a few different possibilities for sources of energy that are currently unknown at the moment. Which pair of blinders are you wearing -- I ask this since it is bias, applied logical fallacy, and opinion that prevents a person from seeing and accepting what is often right in front of them.

sm0ky2

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2018, 01:20:48 PM »
With very weak magnets, you can prove that they do work against gravity over time.

Take a magnet that can barely hold itself up on a steel ceiling
And watch it.
Over some time, gravitational acceleration wins and the magnet falls.

If it did no work, why does it stay up for a few seconds?
If gravity did no work, why does it fall?

Now take a model rocket with a large mass for its’ engine.
So that it hangs in the air during the strongest portion of its burn time.
You will see that after a few seconds of ‘hovering’, gravity wins and starts
drawing the rocket to the ground, even though the rocket is still producing force.

Gravity accelerates at 9.8m/s/s, meaning each second in the air adds another 9.8m/s
when these two forces balance, the rocket stays still.
There is no motion, but rest assured
work is being done by the rocket fuel.
And by gravity
As you see a second or two later, the rocket begins to move downward.

The same thing happens with magnetism when the paramagnetic bond-energy is
lower than a materials constant, derived from the materials specific gravity and the
strength of magnetization, using a Langevin transformation.

this ‘magnetic density’ constant, divided by the magnets volumetric displacement
gives the field strength as a function of distance from the center of magnetism.
This is a timeless force function

Gravity is time-dependent

by combining the two, using the induction properties of the steel, we find the duration
of time the magnet will hang.

When magnetic field strength is greater than this ‘magnetic density’ constant,
gravitational acceleration is countered by induction in the steel.
And in this scenario, the work done by gravity is on the steel ceiling, not the magnet.
Work done by the magnet only happens one time, at the time of induction.
(I.e. approaching the steel with the magnet)

Using an electromagnet on the same ceiling, we find the energy to be a function
of the bond-energy of the crystalline structure, in the form of the induction
constant (which for steel begins at ~ 1150 kg*m^2/s^2A^3)
notice there is a 3rd dimension here (volume, not just area)

by decreasing current through the electromagnet, we can observe the field strength
at which gravity becomes important.
And again, we observe gravity doing work against the magnetic force.
And this is again, a function of time.

This is but one of many tests we can perform to prove that magnetism is a time-less force.
3 dimensions

Gravity exists in 4-d spacetime

blueplanet

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2018, 09:25:25 AM »
The term overunity can be very misleading.
Energy harvesting is probably a more acceptable term.
The former implies that the energy can come from nowhere. The latter means that there is a source of energy to harvest.

sm0ky2

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2018, 12:43:46 PM »
The term overunity can be very misleading.
Energy harvesting is probably a more acceptable term.
The former implies that the energy can come from nowhere. The latter means that there is a source of energy to harvest.

The implications come from a misconception of what “energy” is.
And also how we use it.
We have not discovered a “nothing” or a “anywhere” that energy does not exist.

The arguments against overunity come from one theory.
A theory which cannot be proven, but has been disproven time and time again.

Yet science still insists on calling this theory a set of “laws”.
For clearly economic purposes, and reasons of acedemic prestige.

For thermodynamic theory to hold true, we require a zero-thermal energy state.
Which we don’t have. Nor do we have a truly isolated system.

Currently the theory claims a zero-energy state to exist at 0 Kelvin.
But we have disproven this by lowering the temperature of samples below 0K.
And we still find that there exists atomic motion and quantum fluctuations.

To understand this, we must use the theory itself.
Take an isolated system at thermal equilibrium.
There is no potential for thermal energy flow, therefore no perceived change
in internal energy.
Because the system is isolated, there is no external thermal reference.
Simply put, we have no way of knowing the real temperature.
In a non-isolated system we can use gravity or some other source to
determine a thermal energy quantity, but if the system is truly isolated,
we have no reference.
No potential for thermal energy flow. But does the system contain some
quantity of “energy”?

Of course we assume that if the system has any temperature above 0K
there is some absolute value of thermal energy contained within.
But what is this value? To know that, we must know the absolute temperature.
The Kelvin scale was broken, so the only (temporary) solution is to develop a
new scale, to convert -Kelvins to the new zero.
This could occur an infinite number of times, Kelvin, Marvin, Gavin........
And at the end of our journey, we will find the thermal state of our existence
to be some astronomically high value beyond our ability to conceptualize what
“absolute zero” truly is.

This problem lies at the very foundations of thermodynamic theory.
Without a known zero-state, the theory is open to negative energy values.
Negative energy is the same as energy. The theory doesn’t actually work.

It holds true in most cases, because we exist in a high-entropy environment.
This does not mean that the opposite cannot exist.

In fact, for any of this to exist, at some point, negentropy must have occurred
or still be occurring, “somewhere”. (what caused the ‘big bang’?)

Whether you subscribe to BB theory, or the theory that our universe exists in
a constant state of flux, negentropy is an essential function.

In this field of research we are Orville and Wilbur.
While the rest of the world would be perfectly content stuck on the ground of
their flat-earth, destroying truth and knowledge, so we can do this all over
again in a few thousand years.

blueplanet

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2018, 01:06:06 PM »
Even at absolute zero temperature, electric current flow without any source. This appears to be an obvious bleach of the 2nd law.

sm0ky2

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Re: Why Over-Unity is Possible
« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2018, 04:52:49 AM »
Even at absolute zero temperature, electric current flow without any source. This appears to be an obvious bleach of the 2nd law.

That is exactly what Maxwell predicted, even long before we created a superconductor
Resistance is a function of heat.
With no heat, there is no resistance.