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Author Topic: Magnets, motion and measurement  (Read 66959 times)

Offline citfta

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #240 on: June 28, 2019, 11:23:46 PM »
Thanks.

There are actually 3 bearings for the lateral besides the pinyon gear.  The 3rd is hidden behind the top bearing in the middle picture.  You can barely see it just to the right of the block of wood the top bearing is mounted on.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #240 on: June 28, 2019, 11:23:46 PM »

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #241 on: June 30, 2019, 02:37:04 AM »
@citfta
Thank you as well

@ All readers

Some of these designs result in more mechanical
work out than is input.

See for your self.
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #242 on: July 07, 2019, 07:58:06 AM »
Short video of one design @

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9

There are 18 other designs / videos available there as well.
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #242 on: July 07, 2019, 07:58:06 AM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #243 on: July 07, 2019, 03:08:40 PM »
Here the TinMan works on Floor's inspiration [as always ..shared with permission]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhyfD1GiCXU
much Gratitude [I hope its OK to post it here in this thread , wasn't sure which one of your topics was best ?]

Floor you are a true inspiration ![as is the TinMan

Respectfully submitted
Chet K////Edit// I see TinMan added Vids to your topic here https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/msg536314/#new // maybe if you are interested we could ask Stefan about giving you a Moderated builders board or ?? to keep your topics clean [example remove this misplaced post ?]



Offline Floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #244 on: July 08, 2019, 12:21:58 AM »
Thank you Ramset !

I have never resorted to moderation on any of my topics, only threatened to  do so.
I will consider it.

Thanks again Tinman.
Be advised that rotary designs are dicey at best.  A failure in one of them might reflect
badly upon investigations of the strictly linear designs.
We need to not be concerned with conservation of momentum at this point in the process.

          regards
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #244 on: July 08, 2019, 12:21:58 AM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #245 on: July 08, 2019, 06:17:18 AM »
[quote author=Floor link=topic=16954.msg536327#msg536327

Thanks again Tinman.
Be advised that rotary designs are dicey at best.  A failure in one of them might reflect
badly upon investigations of the strictly linear designs.
We need to not be concerned with conservation of momentum at this point in the process.

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[/quote]

Yes, i hear you.
I will make sure that everyone knows that the two are different,and one should not answer for the other.


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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #246 on: July 08, 2019, 09:37:42 AM »
Look, ferromagnetic particles in Brownian motion, if placed in a magnetic field. You must take an orderly motion. Reduced entropy. Different forces will act on a particle moving along the field line and across the magnetic field line. I'm right?

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #246 on: July 08, 2019, 09:37:42 AM »
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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #247 on: July 09, 2019, 04:45:30 PM »
Look, ferromagnetic particles in Brownian motion, if placed in a magnetic field. You must take an orderly motion. Reduced entropy. Different forces will act on a particle moving along the field line and across the magnetic field line. I'm right?

Wrong topic ? kolbacict
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #248 on: July 09, 2019, 05:29:17 PM »
@Ramset

Moderation could get to be a big job.  Hopefully not. I think Its a good suggestion.

Deleations should  be done only to keep the topic on topic, no punishment element.

Five conditions I would like to see met. (Good Luck)

1. Since the topic is on a "floor design / designs" then the design should be followed as closely
as is reasonable / possible.

2. New designs / major "improvements" / innovations be presented on a separate topic.

3. I would want to see all deleted materials posted in their order of appearance,
to a separate topic.

4. That the deleted material topic, is available for any member to read / comment in.

5. No discussions of / re posting of deleted material on the main topic, once
they have been deleted


I can't take on the job.  I have too much on my plate at this time.
Some one else please ! (maybe Tin Man ?)


@All readers

I'm sure you will give them  rigorus due dilligence and testing, but  please resist the temptation to do improvements at this time.  These designs are my babies.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #248 on: July 09, 2019, 05:29:17 PM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #249 on: July 09, 2019, 05:49:46 PM »
@Tinman

Linear designs have the potential for power via brute force.
Rotating designs have the potential for power via high speed.

Below is a topic on a few rotating designs.

https://overunity.com/17070/all-magnet-motor-td-based/msg498197/#msg498197

 regards
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #250 on: July 11, 2019, 05:58:28 PM »
I forgot to add the video to this post so please see the next one.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #250 on: July 11, 2019, 05:58:28 PM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #251 on: July 11, 2019, 06:05:23 PM »
Here is a short video showing my build of Floor's rack 3 design from his PDF.  As he has said it must have pretty accurate alignment before it will work properly.  But it can be made to work as you can see in the video.  The magnets in the video are just cheap magnets from Lowe's.  After mounting them I found the strength varied some making the adjustments a little harder.  A gauss meter used to help match up the strength of the magnets would probably be a help in making a better build.


https://youtu.be/1_CrU7M46S4

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #252 on: July 11, 2019, 09:33:50 PM »
@ CITFTA

Pretty good results !

I hope you made your test bed easy to modify

Two outer magnets tend to overpower a single shield magnet.  Where as, an over sized (broader)
shield magnet doesn't adversely effect the shielding but instead (up to a point) improves it.

Your shielding would be improved by the use of a shield magnet that is about twice as broad as the one you used
                   or
2 magnets as below (this works just fine).

Also note that,  when using a broader shield magnet, the fine tuning / adjusting,  is easier and can be less precise.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #253 on: July 11, 2019, 09:44:13 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion Floor.  Do you know if a thinner shield magnet would still work as a shield?  I am thinking that would allow the rack magnets to get closer together so they would have more repelling force when the shield magnet is removed.  I can fairly easily make changes to my test bed as everything is mounted with screws and assembled with bolts and nuts.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #254 on: July 11, 2019, 11:32:31 PM »
@ citfta

Before you tear it down you might want to try to determine what if any problems exist for the setup.
I found that when two magnets are pushing apart at close proximity there is some additional force required to remove the shield.
When the magnets are operated in attraction the shield would need more force to insert.

You might try a thin neo for the shield but it could also destroy the ceramic magnets if too close.

Nice sturdy setup though.

 

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