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Author Topic: Magnets, motion and measurement  (Read 31130 times)

Offline Floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #165 on: February 14, 2019, 08:38:45 PM »
@Telecom

There are no measurements taken by me of that particular magnet interaction set ................
                                                and
if you are referring to this video ? ...... https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9
                                               and these drawings .......  https://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/dlattach/attach/171897/

The operating principles are very similar to these actions / function for the same kind of reasons.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6va1an
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #166 on: February 16, 2019, 03:32:28 PM »
@Telecom

There are no measurements taken by me of that particular magnet interaction set ................
                                                and
if you are referring to this video ? ...... https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9
                                               and these drawings .......  https://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/dlattach/attach/171897/

The operating principles are very similar to these actions / function for the same kind of reasons.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6va1an
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

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I like this recent approach for its compactness.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #167 on: February 20, 2019, 07:46:15 PM »
@Telecom

There is a lot of force between those two magnet stacks, and with only two magnets as the shield
it is working effectively.


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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #167 on: February 20, 2019, 07:46:15 PM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #168 on: March 01, 2019, 09:27:47 PM »
@Telecom

There is a lot of force between those two magnet stacks, and with only two magnets as the shield
it is working effectively.
stack of the magnets have only 2 poles, not the multiple poles as on the picture.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #169 on: March 06, 2019, 12:40:33 AM »
The magnetic field of the shield becomes distorted when two main magnets are close by,
this causes resistance when the above shield is removed.
Floor just needs to measure the actual forces at his set up, to see if this arrangement is workable.

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« Reply #169 on: March 06, 2019, 12:40:33 AM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #170 on: March 06, 2019, 04:00:15 AM »
Found some interesting material related to the magnet force measurements.
https://freeenergycommunity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/kedron_eden_project.pdf

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #171 on: March 07, 2019, 06:13:29 PM »
Found some interesting material related to the magnet force measurements.
https://freeenergycommunity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/kedron_eden_project.pdf

There is an explanation there which says that magnet interaction  force is dependent
on the density of the magnetic field in the area.
This is actually similar to a TD drive concept and may explain it.

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« Reply #171 on: March 07, 2019, 06:13:29 PM »
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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #172 on: March 21, 2019, 09:46:45 PM »
Please find the attached file "MagForShldComplex 2.PDF"

Some drawings cleaned up / combined into a single PDF file.
 

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #173 on: March 28, 2019, 10:07:39 PM »
@Telecom

Thanks for posting the link.
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« Reply #173 on: March 28, 2019, 10:07:39 PM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #174 on: April 03, 2019, 11:32:54 PM »
Looks like the Kedron "free energy from magnets device" has been disappeared and or proven not to work ?

But their pdf file has some good magnet information.

https://freeenergycommunity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/kedron_eden_project.pdf

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #175 on: April 04, 2019, 12:03:52 AM »
When by" the law of momentum conservation" from action and reaction ever shall exist equivalence ( JLNaudins push&pull experiment shows asymmetry= no equivalence)

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/2magpup.htm
then it is the question where is to the Hildenbrand valve( doubling the flux lines) and Charles Flynn ( halfing the flux lines) force gain/loose reaction !?
doubling flux lines : 4 times the unit force
basic flux line: unit force
halfing the flux lines: 1/4 the unit force


doubling :  https://tesla3.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/zpe_hilden_brand_valve.gif
halfing : https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20020129&CC=US&NR=6342746B1&KC=B1#


That the input and output transformation process from conventional industrial machines can become improvedshow us this decriptions ( why and how !? explanation )

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Fred+miekka&IN=&CPC=&IC=
For all who are working in "surplus power generating machines" I would advice here " figure 10" study :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20110097209A1/en
« Last Edit: April 04, 2019, 10:01:46 AM by lancaIV »

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« Reply #175 on: April 04, 2019, 12:03:52 AM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #176 on: April 05, 2019, 11:41:59 PM »
@LankaTv

Thanks for the post / links...

Not boasting, but I'm up to at least 5 variations of magnet interactions that yield
more energy out as mechanical work,  than energy input,  as mechanical work.

Most are illustrated on this topic.  Some are explained in video demonstrations as well.

But I have not as yet built a single device which clearly / unambiguously / undeniably demonstrates
these interaction sets as over unity.    Should I or should I not ?
Your opinion please sir.

          best wishes
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #177 on: April 09, 2019, 04:59:59 PM »
Hello floor,

at first I have to correct my " advice" : not figure 10 but " figure12 " the input / output should become studied :

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20110097209A1/en
From negative C.O.P. to positive C.O.P., min/ max/ average

What is by your work your intention/ motive/ target ?
For example :
apply a demonstration device for the " overunity.com prize award" ?
Satisfying yourself and resolve the  royal academy "axiom"and definition :                                         
                                      ppm is physically not possible ( by given and determed closed cycle-conditioning)
 by  own creativity and intuition- freedome ?
You deliver your work results here and on youtube, my opinion does not make matter !
Wishing you and your work success
OCWL
« Last Edit: April 09, 2019, 07:43:31 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #178 on: April 15, 2019, 09:34:34 PM »

What is by your work your intention/ motive/ target ?
For example :
apply a demonstration device for the " overunity.com prize award" ?
Satisfying yourself and resolve the  royal academy "axiom"and definition :                                         
                                      ppm is physically not possible ( by given and determed closed cycle-conditioning)
 by  own creativity and intuition- freedome ?
You deliver your work results here and on youtube, my opinion does not make matter !
Wishing you and your work success


Thank you again for your post / link (although the link is interesting it's off topic)

What does "OCWL" mean?

My motivations are a mixture of these and others.   

           Next let me clarify.
My Question to you / request for an opinion from you is in this regard.

Do you think that such devices as I have describe in this topic
            If we take it as a given   .....   that these devices make available mechanical energy ... in excess of the input mechanical energy.
would be of an overall benefit to humanity / planet Earth...
                                       or
would such  a device / devices be just as likely,
                            for example ......
to spawn a war with China over neodymium and so on, as it seems some people, now engage in war
 in order to control the flow or crude oil ?

            regards
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #179 on: April 16, 2019, 10:21:44 AM »
OCWL: my Name Oliver Christoph Waldhelm Lanca

The Solorzano- device is not off-topic following your first topic description.It shows increasing and decline from work to power ratio and positive and negative work performance.Based by magnetic machines, motor and generator.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sENgdSF8ppA
  1:50+ open coil.    2:23+ closed coil     "resistance". an open/ closed coil switch?

About Neodym : it is the science conflict to search for an alternative for Cobalt-content permanent magnets(AlNiCo)and the decision to use ( as same radioactive) Lanthaniden("rare earth")- Elements like Neodymium and Samarium ( based by Sumituomo Metalls and General Motors reseach and development).

The solution : weaker permanent ceramic ferrite magnets C5/C8 ( - but  later in magnets array configuration - )
Shkondin,  Flynn, Raser Tech development


or as same strong as Neodym magnets :
https://m.phys.org/news/2010-03-iron-nitrogen-compound-strongest-magnet.html
Or: capacitive surges using electro-magnets with Tesla-force range output.
Or/and : permanent magnets and electro- magnets and/ or electro- permanent magnets combination.

Is it possible the " open cycle" gain circuit ? Yes, cause the existent physical asymmetry.With mechanical ( rotative or linear) output or electrical or both.

When actually the price forecast for solar cell energy and batteries - beginning with 2030 is in the 2 cents/KWh range- it will become difficult for inventors and their commercial industrial partners to calculate with "high margin profits" in future !

Sincerely
Oliver CWL
p.s.: " humanity" : there will be no change without conflicts, we will see winning and loosing.
           petrol based economies will be in decline cause enviromental issues ( petrol engines prohibition)       

            and less petrol-based plastics use.( + plastics- recycling)


           Instead copper aluminium and graphene coils/foils use .

           The products in future less maintenance/service-dependent and with longer work- life.

           I do not see China or India as " industrial " conflict :

           it is the 4d-cnc printing technology which let production becomes human-workpower free,     

          no human social costs only material input and KWh- salary.           

          Mini-factories in container-box dimension,  (self-) transportable over land/ sea/air.

          And human- free production management,24/7, ex-/ in-cluded telemetric organisation.
          Wireless communication and wireless energy transmission gives many possibilities.

          No local fixation : for consumer and producer.
         
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