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Author Topic: Magnets, motion and measurement  (Read 94209 times)

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #570 on: April 19, 2020, 02:27:50 AM »
@ all readers

More videos of principles involved in O. U. from magnets.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5an8hd

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0i61
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ffco0

27 videos on magnet interaction that demonstrate methods of O.U. from magnet interactions.
https://www.dailymotion.com/search/seethisvid

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #570 on: April 19, 2020, 02:27:50 AM »

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #571 on: April 19, 2020, 02:48:12 AM »
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O.U. magnet method 1

           Brief video demonstration @

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x728wd9

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #572 on: April 19, 2020, 12:27:19 PM »
Again, IMHO, magnet shields only when it works as a shield. And all this balancing is then unneccessary. You may have another opinion, i don't see how it's substantiated and i don't agree with you that balancing magnets forces provide overunity.

But you can have your view, and others who believe you can too. I don't want to prevent you from talking about your work, who wants can feel free to ignore my messages. I only want my opinions to be known, and not to be flooded under a lot of stuff. Thanks for the understanding.

Floor, I'm also not against your invention, but then i don't know what your invention is.


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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #573 on: April 20, 2020, 02:03:49 AM »
@ eye eye

Perhaps you truly feel as though you are entitled to courtesies, which you do not /
are perhaps not capable of extending to others.  I suspect that you are already
aware of the maladies / conditions from which you suffer.  I do not see it as of
any benefit to you, that I simply pretend that your behaviors are not unpleasant
for and harmful to others.  I offer neither sympathy for you, nor do I have any pity
for you, because the one implies agreement with you perspective, while the other
would be a pretension on my part that I am some how above you.  Neither stance do
I see as being a basis of / for my being in touch with reality.


You waste other peoples as well as my time, and clutter the topic with these
nonsense statements. 
                                 Example of your last nonsense statement.

Again, IMHO, magnet shields only when it works as a shield.

Your Opinion is received. 

Problems I have with your (above) opinion.

1. You are certain that you understand what shielding is.
2. You do not not understand what shielding is.
3. You do not realize that you do not understand what shielding is.
4. The basis for that opinion, is little more than hear say.

Problems I have with your participation in my topics in general.

1. Your opinion is nonsensical.
2. My topics are not "for the expert only". You  however typically state opinions
authoritatively, as if they were facts, when in fact it is readily apparent that you
posses exceptionally little knowledge of the subjects either in general or in
specific.
3. You are not qualified to participate in the topics. This is not because you are
blind, but rather it is because you are blind and yet you claim to see. 
4. You have complained that you are being unfairly treated when I or some else
cries b. s. on your pretentious and fallacious interjections and interruptions.
5. It is for the reasons of the dishonesty / lack of integrity / lack of consideration for
others etc., which you consistently embody that I do not want you to post in any
of my topics ever.... Period.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #574 on: April 20, 2020, 03:25:59 AM »
I have been "informed" on very numerous occasions that "there is no such thing as a magnetic shield".

Please tell this to the Magnetic Shield Corporation, as they have been (apparently erroneously)
in the business of manufacturing and selling magnetic shielding for about 80 years.  Look em up !

What is shielding in general, and in specific what are some of the kinds of, and ways in which various kind of shielding perform their function ?

Lets look.

For many centuries, in some parts of the world, individuals have demonstrated a kind of shielding as performance art, it is as follows.  Performer #1 (typically of large stature and physical strength) lies on his back upon the ground.  A large / thick / broad / flat stone is placed upon his chest.  The stone typically has a weight of  some where around 80 or 100 pounds. 

While performer #1 holds the stone from rocking and / or sliding from its place, a second performer (performer #2) strikes the stone fiercely and repeatedly with a 6 or 8 pound sledge hammer, until the stone is split into two or more pieces.  Performer #1 is unharmed.

What is happening. 

1. We commonly say the stone has absorbed most of the impact, but this is a vagary. It gives no understanding of the how and why this works. 

The stone has a large mass as compared to the sledge hammer.  The kinetic energy of the lighter and fast moving sledge hammer is transformed into a slow moving / short distance travel, of the stone.

   In other words high speed / low mass, is traded for large mass slower speed / less travel distance.

Upon the hammers striking of the stone, the kinetic energy in the hammer is transferred to the stone. The same kinetic energy that was present in the hammer is then present in the stone.  But that kinetic energy is also transformed in its ratio of mass to speed.  Greater mass with a lesser speed.  Same amount of energy though.  Lesser speed over a given duration of the event, results in a lesser distance traveled by the stone, than would have been traveled by a stone of a mass equal to that of the sledge hammer.

2.  The energy present as the momentum of the sledge hammer is spread over the large surface area
of contact, between performer #1's chest and the stone.
                                           In other words the force is redistributed.
Is this magic or over unity ? No.

There are aspects to and / or kinds of shielding, for example padding, or, stretch / elasticity, when an object's fall is arrested by a rope and so on.
..............................................

To be continued....
    floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #575 on: April 20, 2020, 02:35:50 PM »
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« Last Edit: April 20, 2020, 10:53:06 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #576 on: April 20, 2020, 05:58:19 PM »
@ all readers

I have been "informed" on very numerous occasions that "there is no such thing as a magnetic shield".

Please tell this to the Magnetic Shield Corporation, as they have been (apparently erroneously)
in the business of manufacturing and selling magnetic shielding for about 80 years.  Look em up !

What is shielding in general, and in specific what are some of the kinds of, and ways in which various kind of shielding perform their function ?

Lets look at one type.

For many centuries, in some parts of the world, individuals have demonstrated a kind of shielding as performance art. It is as follows.  Performer #1 (typically of large stature and physical strength) lies on his back upon the ground.  A large / thick / broad / flat stone is placed upon his chest.  The stone typically has a weight of  some where around 80 or 100 pounds. 

While performer #1 holds the stone from rocking and / or sliding from its place, a second performer (performer #2) strikes the stone fiercely and repeatedly with a 6 or 8 pound sledge hammer, until the stone is split into two or more pieces.  Performer #1 is unharmed.

What is happening. 

1. We commonly say the stone has absorbed most of the impact, but this is a vagary. It gives no understanding of the how and why this works. 

The stone has a large mass as compared to the sledge hammer.  The kinetic energy of the lighter and fast moving sledge hammer is transformed into a slow moving / short distance travel, of the stone.

   In other words high speed / low mass, is traded for large mass slower speed / less travel distance.

Upon the hammers striking of the stone, the kinetic energy in the hammer is transferred to the stone. The same kinetic energy that was present in the hammer is then present in the stone.  But that kinetic energy is also transformed in its ratio of mass to speed.  Greater mass with a lesser speed.  Lesser speed over a given duration of the event, results in a lesser distance traveled by the stone, than would have been traveled by a stone of a mass equal to that of the sledge hammer.

2.  The energy present as the momentum of the sledge hammer is spread over the large surface area of contact, between performer #1's chest and the stone.
                                           In other words the force is redistributed.
Is this over unity ?   No.

There are aspects to and / or kinds of shielding, for example padding lengthens the time duration of an impact while also decreasing peak force.  Stretch / elasticity, when an object's fall is arrested by a rope  lengthens the time duration of an impact while also decreasing peak force and so on.
..............................................



continued

The magnetic force shielding methods presented have some characteristics in common with the sledge hammer and stone slab example.

The stone slab has a broad surface area against performer #1's chest, and a large amount of inertia due to its mass.  The force is DISTRIBUTED over a large area.

A force shielding magnet redirects various of the magnetic forces to act at right angles,  causing those force to be against the track or rail elements of the devices rather than against input energy / forces. 

The force is placed upon the sliding tracks.  It is DISTRIBUTED in such a manner that it cannot cause motion of the magnets.  No motion equals no kinetic energy transfer / expenditure.  But also the magnets can be moved along their tracks with out work against magnetic forces because those motions are at right angles to those magnetic forces.

The magnet force shielding differs in many and considerable ways from the stone and hammer example.  Rather than inertia acting in a major way, in the magnet interactions.  It is the interconnections of the magnets via the track elements of the devices which transform and limit the transfer of the kinetic energy in terms of  direction, distance and ratio of force to displacement.

In other words the magnet are bound / limited in their motions to specific directions by the tracks, but also, the tracks are rigidly connected to each other. This rigid contentedness, in a manner of speaking, takes the place of  the inertia aspect of the stone slab / hammer example.

There is then also that aspect present in magnet interactions which is not at all present in the hammer / stone example.  Near balance of magnetic attraction with magnetic repulsion.  This aspect in combination with the force per distance transformations and force redirecting allows for a variety of very effective magnetic force neutralizations and shieldings. The results of which can be dramatic Over  Unity.

For a greater understanding of the subjects and if you wish, watch the videos or study the drawings.

             best wishes
                  floor
 
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             There are no violations of physic's laws presented here.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #578 on: April 20, 2020, 06:03:47 PM »
Nice links Lanca IV
  thanks
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #579 on: April 20, 2020, 06:07:05 PM »
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« Last Edit: April 20, 2020, 10:50:28 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #580 on: April 20, 2020, 06:18:43 PM »
Videos of some of these magnet interactions.



https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/msg544070/#msg544070

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« Reply #580 on: April 20, 2020, 06:18:43 PM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #581 on: April 20, 2020, 06:23:36 PM »
@ all readers

I have been "informed" on very numerous occasions that "there is no such thing as a magnetic shield".

Please tell this to the Magnetic Shield Corporation, as they have been (apparently erroneously)
in the business of manufacturing and selling magnetic shielding for about 80 years.  Look em up !

What is shielding in general, and in specific what are some of the kinds of, and ways in which various kind of shielding perform their function ?

Lets look at one type.

For many centuries, in some parts of the world, individuals have demonstrated a kind of shielding as performance art. It is as follows.  Performer #1 (typically of large stature and physical strength) lies on his back upon the ground.  A large / thick / broad / flat stone is placed upon his chest.  The stone typically has a weight of  some where around 80 or 100 pounds.

While performer #1 holds the stone from rocking and / or sliding from its place, a second performer (performer #2) strikes the stone fiercely and repeatedly with a 6 or 8 pound sledge hammer, until the stone is split into two or more pieces.  Performer #1 is unharmed.

What is happening.

1. We commonly say the stone has absorbed most of the impact, but this is a vagary. It gives no understanding of the how and why this works.

The stone has a large mass as compared to the sledge hammer.  The kinetic energy of the lighter and fast moving sledge hammer is transformed into a slow moving / short distance travel, of the stone.

   In other words high speed / low mass, is traded for large mass slower speed / less travel distance.

Upon the hammers striking of the stone, the kinetic energy in the hammer is transferred to the stone. The same kinetic energy that was present in the hammer is then present in the stone.  But that kinetic energy is also transformed in its ratio of mass to speed.  Greater mass with a lesser speed.  Lesser speed over a given duration of the event, results in a lesser distance traveled by the stone, than would have been traveled by a stone of a mass equal to that of the sledge hammer.

2.  The energy present as the momentum of the sledge hammer is spread over the large surface area of contact, between performer #1's chest and the stone.
                                           In other words the force is redistributed.
Is this over unity ?   No.

There are aspects to and / or kinds of shielding, for example padding lengthens the time duration of an impact while also decreasing peak force.  Stretch / elasticity, when an object's fall is arrested by a rope  lengthens the time duration of an impact while also decreasing peak force and so on.
..............................................



continued

The magnetic force shielding methods presented have some characteristics in common with the sledge hammer and stone slab example.

The stone slab has a broad surface area against performer #1's chest, and a large amount of inertia due to its mass.  The force is DISTRIBUTED over a large area.

A force shielding magnet redirects various of the magnetic forces to act at right angles,  causing those force to be against the track or rail elements of the devices rather than against input energy / forces.

The force is placed upon the sliding tracks.  It is DISTRIBUTED in such a manner that it cannot cause motion of the magnets.  No motion equals no kinetic energy transfer / expenditure.  But also the magnets can be moved along their tracks with out work against magnetic forces because those motions are at right angles to those magnetic forces.

The magnet force shielding differs in many and considerable ways from the stone and hammer example.  Rather than inertia acting in a major way, in the magnet interactions.  It is the interconnections of the magnets via the track elements of the devices which transform and limit the transfer of the kinetic energy in terms of  direction, distance and ratio of force to displacement.

In other words the magnet are bound / limited in their motions to specific directions by the tracks, but also, the tracks are rigidly connected to each other. This rigid contentedness, in a manner of speaking, takes the place of  the inertia aspect of the stone slab / hammer example.

There is then also that aspect present in magnet interactions which is not at all present in the hammer / stone example.  Near balance of magnetic attraction with magnetic repulsion.  This aspect in combination with the force per distance transformations and force redirecting allows for a variety of very effective magnetic force neutralizations and shieldings. The results of which can be dramatic Over  Unity.

For a greater understanding of the subjects and if you wish, watch the videos or study the drawings.

             best wishes
                  floor
 Videos of some of these magnet interactions.



https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/msg544070/#msg544070

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #582 on: April 21, 2020, 08:43:36 AM »
What is shielding in general, and in specific what are some of the kinds of, and ways in which various kind of shielding perform their function ?

Oh, you think that you push all into obscurity by asking what shielding is. No. Shielding is making magnetic field more asymmetric in a certain way, using the asymmetry (non-Coulomb irregularity) in the magnetic materials that there already is.


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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #583 on: April 30, 2020, 01:35:50 AM »
Oh that's it eye eye. I'm telling my mom !
You're in big trouble now !

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #584 on: April 30, 2020, 04:56:10 AM »
Oh that's it eye eye. I'm telling my mom !

If you want, but don't talk to Stefan, he has difficult times now.


 

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