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Author Topic: Magnets, motion and measurement  (Read 78547 times)

Offline Freepowerworldpeace69

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #391 on: November 26, 2019, 08:32:03 PM »
sharp ends up.

The poles of your magnet are both of the curved surfaces, as Citfta said.

I don't have a compass, but i made it myself, by magnetizing a paperclip, and hanging it from a thread. But you can use another magnet with known poles, to see where it attracts, to find poles.


Offline Floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #392 on: November 27, 2019, 08:14:03 PM »
Hi Norman

It's good to see you are recovering well.

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Offline Toolofcortex

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #393 on: November 28, 2019, 07:17:06 AM »
He is tired, like this thread.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #394 on: November 28, 2019, 03:43:08 PM »
Ok, this image here too, on figure 1, that i posted in another thread. The object there may be any iron object.

The mu metal takes the field lines inside itself. Most of the field lines that come out of the pole there, they will be bent, and come out from the edge of the mu metal. Interesting how this shielding works, it bends fields.

Interesting if instead of an iron object there, we would have a pole of another magnet, similarly shielded, like on the figure 2, would this increase the asymmetry even more? I mean, the shields may be long, so the magnets don't even interact, only the edges of the shields do.

« Last Edit: November 28, 2019, 06:37:27 PM by ayeaye »

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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #395 on: December 09, 2019, 10:31:36 PM »
@ aye aye

Why don't you do a topic to put up your ideas on ?



                                                   Newton's magnets
                                              Equal and opposite forces.

It requires the same energy expenditure to pull two magnets in attraction apart,
as those magnets delivered during their attraction to each other.
                     But also
Because Newtons laws are valid, and because of the  two pole nature of permanent magnets...........

We can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those  magnets.  To see an example of this illustrated,  open the PDF attached below.


1.  To see Newton's magnets actually done, watch this video, titled "amazeing"  @
                                                                                                                              https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

2. or this variation of the Newton's magnets, watch this video, titled "RtAngSld"   @
                                                                                                                              https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978                         

3. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video, titled "TDForceDiagramed"
                           at 2 minutes and 50 seconds into the video watch               
                                                                                                           @   https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

4. or watch this video titled "direct approach"  @
                                                                        https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xgiez

5. or this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 1"  @
                                                                                                             https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0md2

6. or  this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 2"  @
                                                                                                   https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0o4w

   
                                   SEE THIS PDF BELOW
https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/171711/

   best wishes
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #396 on: December 10, 2019, 03:23:27 AM »
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

I suspect that what you and Citfta show, is just an ordinary shielding. Magnets made of iron certainly also work as shields. Other magnets, depends on what exactly are they made of, even ceramic magnets can work as shields. If so, all this intricate interaction of poles, etc, is just unnecessary. What it's basically about is just putting a shield between two magnets, certainly the magnet that repelled before, then will not, rather it attracts to the shield. And no overunity or anything in it.

This is of course my opinion. I thought how such experiments look like in the Coulomb model, and i found that in that model one magnet cannot shield another. And then i though, wait a minute, does it happen in these experiments either, or is it just an ordinary shield between two magnets. If you disagree, you should show that the shield magnet there doesn't work as an ordinary shield.

Analytical thinking.


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Offline kolbacict

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #397 on: December 11, 2019, 02:56:30 PM »
The bottom is round, a magnet with four poles. From Capstan.From VCR.
https://youtu.be/puMoBd2cF10
banano magnets from the brush motor. What am I doing wrong?
Nothing happens...

Offline ayeaye

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #398 on: December 11, 2019, 07:54:39 PM »
What am I doing wrong?
Nothing happens...

What are you trying to do? Your magnets are in some strong magnetic field, they stop in the neutral position, this is what supposed to happen. What do you expect?

You may get some better magnets. Can you get an old hard drive? You can get from there mu metal and a strong neodymium magnet. Neodymium magnets can also be cut, they are covered by chrome or whatever it is, but they are soft inside. What the result of such cutting is, i don't know though.


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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #399 on: December 11, 2019, 11:07:56 PM »
kolbacict  / ayeaye

Looks to me as if you guys have not a clue.

I'm guessing that you guys are what ... maybe 13 or 14 years old ?

Guess what .

 "ideas" don't merit posting just because they popped into your head.

There needs to be,  some reasons / logic / knowledge base,  that gave them birth.

Those reasons should be presented along with the idea.

There should be good explanations given of both,  the idea and the reasoning,  that leads you think
that it will / might work.

       Such as

       what its supposed to do

       how it does this

       and

       why it works or could / should work
 
I have sat back and watched this for many weeks now, just to see if you
might have anything legitimate to contribute.   Both of you are batting less than a zero.

You're spitting out what amounts to gibberish...

Take it some where else.

Put up a topic of your own to post that crap on ?

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #400 on: December 11, 2019, 11:12:16 PM »
@ all reasoning and  thinking readers

                                                Newton's magnets
                                              Equal and opposite forces.

It requires the same energy expenditure to pull two magnets in attraction apart,
as those magnets delivered during their attraction to each other.
                     But also
Because Newtons laws are valid, and because of the  two pole nature of permanent magnets...........

We can change the positions of two magnets, which are in close proximity to one another,
without doing work against the magnetic forces between those  magnets.  To see an example of this illustrated,  open the PDF attached below.


1.  To see Newton's magnets actually done, watch this video, titled "amazeing"  @
                                                                                                                              https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q

2. or this variation of the Newton's magnets, watch this video, titled "RtAngSld"   @
                                                                                                                              https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978                         

3. or to see a completely different method of neutralizing magnet force as in this video, titled "TDForceDiagramed"
                           at 2 minutes and 50 seconds into the video watch               
                                                                                                           @   https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

4. or watch this video titled "direct approach"  @
                                                                        https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xgiez

5. or this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 1"  @
                                                                                                             https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0md2

6. or  this video titles "Floor's brute force neutralization part 2"  @
                                                                                                   https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0o4w

   
                                   SEE THIS PDF BELOW
https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/dlattach/attach/171711/

   best wishes
            floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #400 on: December 11, 2019, 11:12:16 PM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #401 on: December 12, 2019, 01:41:25 AM »
You're spitting out what amounts to gibberish...

End projecting please, read yourself what you wrote, and proceed from that.

I understand the disappointment, maybe finding that what you do is not really overunity, after you likely spent a lot of time and effort for that. Nothing to do, even when wanting to do all good for you. This is what the research is, sometimes it ends in failure, sometimes we do wrong things, both you and me and we all. It is keeping to do research, this matters, and it results in finding things once. Do it like Faraday, find out how nature works. Why not use your excellent magnet bench for some real research.

What concerns how old we are, i can say. I am not young at all, and i find nothing good in that. Kolbacict i think may be young, but what then, do you want to discourage him? "Where seldom is heard, A discouraging word, And the skies are not cloudy, All day", nice song, isn't it?


Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #402 on: December 12, 2019, 03:42:47 AM »
When I first learned about magnets, the powers that be summed it all up
Into 3 short paragraphs.


Experimenting outside the realm of academics
and sharing with other magneticians
I have learned enough to fill several books.


Never stop experimenting.
If magnets interest you, do whatever comes to your mind.
Because we, as humans, know very little about magnets.
and what we think we know only holds true “most of the time”.




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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #403 on: December 12, 2019, 04:10:37 AM »
Magnets, this is really about this thing, atom, something extremely complicated. How much do we really know about that thing?

(The image below is from that video, Creative Commons  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Atomic_orbitals_and_periodic_table_construction.ogv )


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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #404 on: December 12, 2019, 04:46:11 AM »
The red is a computer generated rendition of the probability cloud.
An impenetrable zone of ‘strong force’, where we think the electron has
a high probability of occurring.


Beyond that we have isolated an ionized proton
but still cannot peek inside.
Is it even there? Is it pure energy like an electron?
can we use it the same way we use electrons?
Math says yes.
Science has yet to learn ‘how’,
Or so we are told....


What is the difference between a proton and a positron?
the charge is identical.
But something in the proton keeps the electron from colliding.
Why?


What causes an asteroid to dive bomb a celestial body, but a moon
to orbit it?


They say the moon is full of antimatter,
If it collided with the earth would they both explode like electron/positron?

 

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