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Author Topic: Magnets, motion and measurement  (Read 66752 times)

Offline norman6538

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #315 on: September 11, 2019, 09:30:35 PM »
Carroll I dispute what Armatex just said. Your video is right on but misses 1 thing. Work is
mass x distance not just force/pounds.

I like to use weights that drop or lift and it is very clear.
So I suggest
1. use a weight to set the device into neutral where it can be repelled in the next step.
2. unset so that it will push/repel away and measure that work.
3. measure how much work is done by the  push/repel away.

In my current device
1 = 1 unit of work oz or lbs x a given distance
2. = 1 unit
3. work out is 6 units of work
giving a net of 4 extra units. And if you cascade that 2 times it becomes 36 when
you take out the set/reset units.

Carroll thank you for making a quality and easy to understand video.
And you are right about no magnetic blocker but "disturbers/balancers" do exist  like Butch Lafonte made.

I suggest that you use the closer stronger repel force to get the most out. That is what I did
and then in Lafonte fashion you can put attraction at the other end so that you get a push/pull for the same movement.

My health recovery has really held me back. I only get about and hr of work done each day.
and it takes another hr to workup a good design.

Norman

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #315 on: September 11, 2019, 09:30:35 PM »

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #316 on: September 12, 2019, 12:48:18 PM »
Hi Norman,


Thanks for your comments.  I understand what you are saying about force times distance.  In this case the distance is the same for the repelling force as it is for the reset force.  So they cancel each other as far as I can tell.  I do think this can be made into something that will run itself and I have some ideas for how to do that.  I also believe that the same configuration on the other end of the shielding bar could more than double the output.


As far as the silly comments from Armcortex,  you just have to consider the source.  Since he has never actually built anything his comments are worthless.  I doubt he could even build a cube with a whole box of Legos.


I am looking forward to your progress and I understand about the slow pace.  I also had heart problems a few years ago and could hardly even walk across the room without resting.  Fortunately my problem was solved with a pacemaker.  I can now work most of the day without problems.


Take care,
Carroll

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #317 on: September 12, 2019, 01:12:45 PM »
Carroll I commend you for your civility and commonsense.
And I wish you great success. We all need a better form of energy.
I really appreciate these forums where we can work together where the
sum of the parts can be greater than the parts separately.

The problem I struggle with now is two repelling magnet have
a dish shaped field of force such that when they are close they
are below the repel portion of the dish and will attract but
my linear version should take me were I need to go.

Norman

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #318 on: September 12, 2019, 03:15:54 PM »
No, no, no... Stop being stubbon, stop these squirmings.

Try this instead, its the only "standard aproach, easy to understand" approach that should be investigated, in my simulation the freewheel weight was never launched, it simply had a motor with  rpm and torque, no launch energy was provided. The wheels were all turning and pushing by using centrifugal force only.

No other situation, magnetic, mechanic or otherwise, will ever ever work.

https://overunity.com/18226/physicist-needed-will-this-self-loop/msg538953/#new

The rest, is all non standard, way over your head, we need a massive breakthrough from someboy else, like Rakarsky or something.

If a pulse method, can maintain a cohesive phase/frequency relationship, pulse can be turned into H.P, many HP, it will be size efficient.

Turn the input pushes of the swinging children into rotation force.

The discussion is over, I will let Rakarsky and Stivep educate you henceforth for other non-standard approach.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #319 on: September 12, 2019, 04:00:40 PM »
Hi Norman,


Thanks for your comments.  I understand what you are saying about force times distance.  In this case the distance is the same for the repelling force as it is for the reset force.  So they cancel each other as far as I can tell.  I do think this can be made into something that will run itself and I have some ideas for how to do that.  .


Take care,
Carroll

No you dont, its all confused and probably will get exponentially complicated as you really uncover why it doesnt work then you start patching your little leaky boat in a storm, sorry in the end of the day it will not work.

I know, you know, everybody knows.

"I do think this can be made into something that will run itself and I have some ideas for how to do that."

No...You are confused and dazed, you have not even made up the basic structure of the idea, never mind the calculations.

This is standard approach, I have already presented the best of the standard approach.

Theres a ton of non standard patents to try, like the TPU and Kapanadze, these works with something else.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
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Offline norman6538

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #320 on: September 12, 2019, 06:07:49 PM »
ARMCORTEX  I will not waste my time getting into a verbal battle. My bench time is much more important and productive. I do my bench work and present the results.
I am very slow due to many activities and poor health.
I have seen many a good idea that had no measurements like the Milkovic pendulum.

Norman

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #321 on: September 12, 2019, 11:25:18 PM »
@Norman6538

Glad your feel better and hope your recovery continues well.

@Citfta Thanks for the interesting new video.

            floor

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #321 on: September 12, 2019, 11:25:18 PM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #322 on: September 13, 2019, 01:20:09 AM »
No, no, no... Stop being stubbon, stop these squirmings.

Try this instead, its the only "standard aproach, easy to understand" approach that should be investigated, in my simulation the freewheel weight was never launched, it simply had a motor with  rpm and torque, no launch energy was provided. The wheels were all turning and pushing by using centrifugal force only.

No other situation, magnetic, mechanic or otherwise, will ever ever work.

https://overunity.com/18226/physicist-needed-will-this-self-loop/msg538953/#new

The rest, is all non standard, way over your head, we need a massive breakthrough from someboy else, like Rakarsky or something.

If a pulse method, can maintain a cohesive phase/frequency relationship, pulse can be turned into H.P, many HP, it will be size efficient.

Turn the input pushes of the swinging children into rotation force.

The discussion is over, I will let Rakarsky and Stivep educate you henceforth for other non-standard approach.

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3039176&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SmY868MVXyg

1 wheel, 2 coupled wheels,3 ....


1 Meter wheel, 2 Meter wheel, 3 ......  radius ~ lever arm to wheel center


10 magnets groups, 20 magnets group, 30 ......

FEMM- SIMULATION

Later improvement option : the coil envelopped iron core = "electro-magnet"  with capacitive winding and pulse power feedback  circuit


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Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #323 on: September 13, 2019, 06:29:31 PM »
lancaIV, can you make sense and express yourself in a way that doesnt sound retarded?

Every post you make is somekind of unreadable format, you and Floor have in common.

Anyways, as to your assumptions,

You need to be system modeler in mathlab.

It must be computed, to be optimized, so this is high level knowledge. People with such skills are rare.

Nobody like that visits these sites.




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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #323 on: September 13, 2019, 06:29:31 PM »
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #324 on: September 14, 2019, 02:06:57 PM »
But " virtual system modeler" are anymore rare :
physical model/ prototype in function 4d scanning/ digitizing and macro-/micronizing this model. !
Later directly to 3 d parts printer.

"Lab in an Eprom-chip" included " digital lab workers"

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #325 on: September 14, 2019, 07:19:47 PM »
But " virtual system modeler" are anymore rare :
physical model/ prototype in function 4d scanning/ digitizing and macro-/micronizing this model. !
Later directly to 3 d parts printer.

"Lab in an Eprom-chip" included " digital lab workers"

Stop trying to sound mysterious.

Learn proper english and how to structure an argument or sentence that your reader can understand.

Even a non english speaker can do better than your gibberish.

Jackass Twat.

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #326 on: September 15, 2019, 03:12:45 PM »
August, 1982 : language school vacation in Torquay, part from the Torbay.

By the end from this vacation, back to home: Continental Europe , I had to go from uphill City part to dowwnhill,
to the local trainstation.During the way I met an old english Lady/woman and we hold small-talk.By the end from our walk and wishing good-bye she had been surprised to hear which nationality I am :She assumed by the conversation style that I would be english ( child).
So polite ! 8) .
During this vacation our class did a trip to London, our guesthouse near the Piccadilly station, by the next day there had been a greater event :called wedding day from a me directly unknown so called " Prince of Wales" Charles with a nice naive girl named Diana Spencer.
I did some pictures from the Buckingham Palace and the crowed in front and went then through the " human-free" streets in direction Scotland Yard.

15th of september ,2019 : Matosinhos/greater city beside Oporto :
supermarket Lidl : at my front a woman with a chase full of ware
She saw that I only had a package pants in my hands and offered me to go in front of her.She spokes her offer in the english language,in Portugal typical conversation is in portuguese !
my fast response  going in front with the bonmot : " Faster exit before the Brexit !"

During 3 minutes small-talk I noticed : she working as teacher for the " International School",being original from Hartfordshire/county in south of  England.A little concerned about the working conditions as later "E.U.- foreigner" but hoping for the special Britannia/Lusitania relationship !
She asked me ,after giving part of her personality :From which part of America I would come  !
I have had to correct her  opinion : I am German by " ius sanguis" = fathers nationality,my mother natural portuguese and I by " ius terranis" from Maroc/Morocco,natural borned( passive action ) in Casablanca/ North of Africa and actually resident in North-Portugal.

"Tagesspiegel"  translates with " daily mirror" :

real time adventure and life ,not by fake or irrational opinions and assumptions what I and/or floor ( in his own tread) can do and/or are doing in kind and method construction

Your actual attitude is " non grata"  !

In your writings is personality reflection  and social class membership view. !

1972,Farbwerke Hoechst -zu Oporto - Weihnachtsfeier in der Deutschen Schule( seinerzeit noch mit Schwimmbad : mein Bruder lernte " unpolite" :-[ das kalte Wasser in voller Kleidung schneller als Ihm lieb war

( reines "Versehen" meinerseits aber er stand  eben zu nah am Becken  ;D )
meine Schwestern erhielten als Geschenk 45 cm grosse Puppen, besondere Eigenart :ein Ring an einer Schnur, daran gezogen fragte die Puppe : Willst Du mit mir spielen  ?"
Mein forscher Wissensdurst brachte dann ,einige Jahre spaeter, eine kleine Plastik-Scheibe als Mini-Single zutage
musste erst aber einem nakisch dastehen.

An mir haengt kein Ring mit Schnur : aber Spiellust besteht immer. !

proper English - prosper English - ( Karl)  Popper English ( versus Adorno) - Popper( 80' New Wave Style) English
like Pop-art music group style ABC, Spandau Ballett

Can you do with the different generation members a well conversation, with substance and by facts and real argumentation, ARMCORTEX
 or is in ARMCORTEX the german " nomen et omen"- view :arm = poor   reich = rich

About CORTEX and pro/contra about this kind of treatment, Medizin/Medicine -Nobel prize awarded :
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B3nio_Egas_Moniz


Happy new week and success in your real life

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #327 on: September 15, 2019, 05:48:07 PM »
There you go again, building a wall of gibberish. I have no problems with you using drugs tho.

I am more in the class to build robots, give you your universal paycheck so you can use your little drugs and stay home, and GTFO of my sight and stop causing traffic dammnit. I am an extremely classy guy, I wish to gove everybody what they want.

I think this should be a good solution for Portugal. OU power plants, much drugs, much days off, free soccer TV, much Ronaldo murals, with robot nurses to wipe your ass, and robot doctors operated by german or french doctor.

Now that would be a good future to have for portugal, everybody will be happy, the engineers and inventors will love having free time, those driven people that wish to be doctors can still go to school.


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« Reply #328 on: September 15, 2019, 07:09:41 PM »
Oh,  I please for" pardon? "!
It has not been in August /1982 but in 29.07.1981 when Charles and Diana married each other.

So the vacation has not been 1982 but 1981. Times goes bye


"in the class to build robots" : fine " modern" hobby and with great future also as profession

AUTOMATION, this is needed also for the "overunity generator".
Self -learning software to observe the consumer his daily Wattpeak and Wattaverage need.

Day/week/month/year peak/average data sampling ( for this the society get the smartmeter and smartbus netgrid observation technology)



About drugs ab-/use :
Shall we compare hair/inner organs cells probes  ?

Drugs as catalyzer are used for ac-/decelerating abnorm mental situations, by self-medication or by  medicals.

Some are trying to find their "lost luck" with them,  other are trying to escape from their familiar/economical reality  !
Exclusion from social norm : genetical disease

Why are for YOU " drugs" so important. ? Are YOU, alias ARMCORTEX,  consuming il-/legal drugs regular  ?

Your attitude ,alias ARMCORTEX, stays the same and from my view : " non grata". !


floor, you can ever delete this " conflict conversation". ! I am only guest  !


Flywheel technology  : 
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=De&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=goeres&CPC=&IC=


To reply #321 the coil unwrapped magnetic groups  :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=20&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20071004&CC=DE&NR=102004020962A1&KC=A1#


ARMCORTEX, "Radus boots" : for you un/- known. ?
Working with robots: EPROM, processor with internal software: for you un/-known. ? similar approach Intel MMX

https://reprap.org/wiki/RepRap   : un/- known. ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_neural_network

In German : angewandte Kybernetik  ~ applied Kybernetik ( not all should be translated  ;) )


Actually one European Union project. :

https://cordis.europa.eu/project/rcn/99544/factsheet/en

Dual use civil/military application :
https://www.google.com/search?q=bionic+machine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

My father ( R. I. P.)  was student from this University  : work theme 1958 " Kybernetik"

https://www.ias.edu/von-neumann

Fazit :

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=artificial+intelligence+versus+humans&oq=artificial+intelligence+versus+humans&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l3
" ...,who will win? " 

                                                                      who shall win. ?
But let us go to the near future : 31. Oktober 2019 and " The Day After"  :Berkow : Order. !  Order. !
If the British payments of the 350 billions debts becomes stopped how have Standart&Poors, Moody's and Fitch  automatic to declare  ?How is Argentinia treated  ?
What the V2 did not reached PM Johnson probably arisc  !?
Automatic computer selling order. !
Milton&Bradley presents :  HMS LONDON SINKING

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Re: Magnets, motion and measurement
« Reply #329 on: September 15, 2019, 10:25:36 PM »

Sou eu que uso o Google Translate porque não tenho conhecimentos de português.


O lancaIV vem contribuindo com este site há muitos anos e ele trouxe muitas coisas à minha atenção que eu nunca poderia ter encontrado sozinha.
Sua capacidade de obter informações valiosas sobre uma ampla variedade de tópicos é notável e muito apreciada. Ele vem até mim como uma espécie e
pessoa carinhosa com a intenção de ser útil e esperançosa.


Eu gostaria de poder dizer qualquer uma das opções acima sobre a ARMCORTEX.

 

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