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Author Topic: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?  (Read 148803 times)

Offline gotoluc

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #105 on: February 16, 2017, 06:41:01 PM »
Luke, we don't always have to know the exact nature of these forces in order to make practical use of them.

True, and that's where science is at this point. I just have a problem with preaching that there can be nothing more when the best of physicists admit they cannot explain what these 3 effects are.

The effects of  electricity, gravity and magnetism are very well understood; that understanding is expressed as laws.

Their dynamics may be very well understood but that does not mean they know what they are.

If you want to challenge these laws, demonstrate where and when they don't apply.

That work is always in progress. The difference between you and I is confidence that not all is understood and from that fact I don't state nothing more is possible.

As far as I am concerned, the first LoT still stands, while second LoT is successfully challenged.

I guess it doesn't matter how weak I point out your foundation is, you'll just keep standing on it until it's been proven not to support you.
Your choice, just stop preaching it to those who are open to other possibilities.

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Offline memoryman

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #106 on: February 16, 2017, 07:03:22 PM »
Luc, you may call it preaching; I call it teaching.
Given the limited time that I have to live (probably < 30 years), I want to use it most effectively. That means not spending time on theories that have no evidence of possibility, such as gravity, buoyancy, resonance or zpf based devices
That does not include teaching basics over and over.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #107 on: February 16, 2017, 10:14:22 PM »
Luc, you may call it preaching; I call it teaching.
Given the limited time that I have to live (probably < 30 years), I want to use it most effectively. That means not spending time on theories that have no evidence of possibility, such as gravity, buoyancy, resonance or zpf based devices
That does not include teaching basics over and over.

Why spend time on this forum which is all about "free energy" devices? I don't go wasting my time on things I know are rubbish. As you say - life is too short. If people wish to be taught the basics of electricity/phisics there are plenty of websites that do a pretty good job of that.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #107 on: February 16, 2017, 10:14:22 PM »
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Offline memoryman

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #108 on: February 16, 2017, 10:20:17 PM »
indeed. I always learn something, even here; if nothing else, what NOT to spend my time on.
There is nothing magical about most of what is proposed here, but the replies from some is valuable (especially the late Mark E.).
Enjoy your life - I do.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #109 on: February 16, 2017, 10:26:10 PM »

Luc, you may call it preaching; I call it teaching.
Given the limited time that I have to live (probably < 30 years), I want to use it most effectively. That means not spending time on theories that have no evidence of possibility, such as gravity, buoyancy, resonance or zpf based devices
That does not include teaching basics over and over.

You're deluding yourself into believing that. Lets check, is there anyone here today (in this topic) that has learned anything form memoryman?

Let's do another reality check.
This forum is called Overunity. Since you don't believe in OU then why are you here preaching and pestering people to accept your incomplete teachings?
Why not use the 30 years you have left and teach at physics and science forms?... I'm sure you could help a lot of youth with what you know!
Since we are on the subject, do you see individuals who are open to OU go to physics and science forums and try to convince others that OU should be considered?

I'm not saying you're a complete waste here at this forum. What i'm suggesting is to participate when someone is asking for help.
When tomd asked you "How can you be so sure of that?"  and you replied "An deep understanding of basic physics.."
That's a smart ass answer, you know dam well that's not teaching.

Get your act together and stop making excuses.

Sincerely

Luc

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
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Offline Zephir

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #110 on: February 16, 2017, 11:07:33 PM »
Given the limited time that I have to live (probably < 30 years), I want to use it most effectively. That means not spending time on theories that have no evidence of possibility, such as gravity, buoyancy, resonance or zpf based devices. That does not include teaching basics over and over.
Paradoxically just the mainstream physics proponents are these ones, who support search for evidence of extradimensions, stringy and quantum gravity - often at macroscopic scales. It would be historical irony, if the supporters of these theories would get their vindication just in Tesla overunity findings, the existence of which they're denying most obstinately. Because if the extradimensions exist - couldn't the energy leak from - into them for example?

BTW It's symptomatic for mainstream establishment, that the energy conservation law itself has been once also the subject of censorship - the people simply can never learn from their own history.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #111 on: February 17, 2017, 12:58:58 AM »
Guys, you take what you want from my musings. You can't see what goes on behind the scenes. Tesla never claimed OU an you can't point to any concrete evidence of OU either. I have learned from several posters and that's why I'm here. I also helped several people although I disagree with their premise.
This is becoming argument, not a discussion and that does not interest me.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
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Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #112 on: February 17, 2017, 02:30:01 AM »
Then you think Harold Aspden's Lecture No. 27 »OUR FUTURE ENERGY SOURCE - THE VACUUM!« is an erroneous theory? Please explain.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #113 on: February 17, 2017, 07:34:21 AM »
memoryman


Tesla never claimed overunity from his method of single wire transmission or wireless. He said however about taking energy from ambient...

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #114 on: February 17, 2017, 09:50:08 AM »
He said however about taking energy from ambient...

Yeap.


So you put a pan of water on the gas stove for ten minutes to get it to boil.  Energy, yes?

Then you let that pan of water sit over night; next day it isn't boiling.  It's back to the same
temperature it was before you turned on the gas.  Wouldn't it be nice to get that energy back?

I don't think that is asking too much of our great scientists and PhDs.  But if they are all
stuck on impossible, then I'll just have to figure it out myself with the help of other like-minded
people around here.  Is doing that going to wreck the world we live in?

No, but it may ruffle a few feathers.  They'll get it over it.  I'm sure they will never admit they
were wrong.  That's fine, I don't need to hear their excuses.  Those types would be very
insecure outside of their little box anyway.  After all, they have everything figured out, there's
nothing left for them to learn.

So be it.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #116 on: February 17, 2017, 11:41:35 AM »
Then you think Harold Aspden's Lecture No. 27 »OUR FUTURE ENERGY SOURCE - THE VACUUM!« is an erroneous theory? Please explain.

Hey there, back in 2005 we tried to get this magic capacitor work , sadly it was just fun but no signs of ou.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #117 on: February 17, 2017, 11:49:04 AM »
I tried to call all their 3 phone  numbers I have today again, but again no answer or only answering machine...

Now seeing that they will have an investor´s webpage soon on their website, it seems they want
to cash in money in advance....
So no 3rd party verification test yet and maybe they will just scam investors then ??

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #118 on: February 17, 2017, 12:50:44 PM »
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Hey there, back in 2005 we tried to get this magic capacitor work , sadly it was just fun but no signs of ou.

Maybe wrong approach? Who is we and what was tried?

There is still no plausible explanation for my blue transformer experiment. If for some reason the transformer draws an over-current (bad power factor) from the power supply thus a capacitor is needed to correct it (to lower the power consumption) then this should work regardless whether a capacitor (using some different values) is connected to the primary 230V coil or to the secondary 2500V coil. But it works only on the high voltage side. Why?

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:o http://innovatehno.eu/investors/

So they can't answer a phone call or an email, but at the same time they can update their website? Interesting!

The investors menu point wasn't there three days ago. Bing cache Google cache

If they look for investors, then where is the patent of the device? Where can we see the live demonstration of the device? I don't think investors will invest just in a youtube video. Maybe they should point potential investors to this thread. ;D

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