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Tim Beane

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Have overunity . . . need help
« on: October 10, 2016, 08:13:10 PM »
I have designed a wheel/motor that will achieve perpetual motion with useable torque to power any kind of generator.  Right now I need to find an individual to discuss the physics of this design with. Can anyone recommend someone here who has a thorough knowledge of the laws of thermodynamics yet understands our world of trying to achieve overunity?  I want their input as to whether my wheel violates any of the laws, or expands them ....or fits within them.

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 07:58:25 PM »
Hii Tim,
Have you already built a working prototype ?
If yes, then show it on video and we will post comments.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2016, 08:27:14 PM »
I have designed a wheel/motor that will achieve perpetual motion with useable torque to power any kind of generator.  Right now I need to find an individual to discuss the physics of this design with. Can anyone recommend someone here who has a thorough knowledge of the laws of thermodynamics yet understands our world of trying to achieve overunity?  I want their input as to whether my wheel violates any of the laws, or expands them ....or fits within them.


You have a bad timing, seems the people your looking for just left.
http://overunity.com/16909/anyone-know-where-tinselkoala-is


Try here https://www.physicsforums.com





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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2016, 07:53:57 AM »
I have designed a wheel/motor that will achieve perpetual motion with useable torque to power any kind of generator.  Right now I need to find an individual to discuss the physics of this design with. Can anyone recommend someone here who has a thorough knowledge of the laws of thermodynamics yet understands our world of trying to achieve overunity?  I want their input as to whether my wheel violates any of the laws, or expands them ....or fits within them.
Just post detailed drawings here and we can discuss. I'm quite sure you've missed something out. Time will show ;-)


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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2016, 02:29:12 PM »
Hii Tim,
Have you already built a working prototype ?
If yes, then show it on video and we will post comments.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan,
Thank you for your response but I am looking for someone with a deep understanding of physics to discuss its operation with.   I need to include a very descriptive theory of operation on my patent applications along with explanations as to how it correlates with the laws of thermodynamics.

Tim Beane

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2016, 02:43:49 PM »
Just post detailed drawings here and we can discuss. I'm quite sure you've missed something out. Time will show ;-)


Vidar

Hi Vidar,
I'm not pursuing help with my design but thank you for your offer.

memoryman

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2016, 02:57:29 PM »
Unless you have a working prototype (nobody has), the title of your post is misleading.

Tim Beane

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2016, 03:04:53 PM »
Unless you have a working prototype (nobody has), the title of your post is misleading.

I am working on preparing patents.  I am not misleading anyone and was very specific as to what I am in need of.

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2016, 03:40:16 PM »
You don't HAVE OU unless you have a working prototype. So, saying it IS misleading.

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2016, 03:50:55 PM »
Hi, you need a working prototype before you can get a patent.

Tim Beane

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2016, 03:52:41 PM »
You don't HAVE OU unless you have a working prototype. So, saying it IS misleading.

Once again, I am not misleading anyone.  I have stated my needs and am not here to prove or debate anything. 

Tim Beane

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2016, 04:00:31 PM »
Hi, you need a working prototype before you can get a patent.

Yes, I am fully aware that a prototype must be supplied.  What is not written as a guideline for obtaining a patent on over unity is in addition to the working prototype, its operation must also be thoroughly described as it applies to the laws of thermodynamics . . . which is why I am here. 

memoryman

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2016, 05:02:09 PM »
Given a full disclosure of what you are claiming, many people on this site can 'debunk' your idea. That would signing a NDA, which may conflict with the signer's interests. Of course, you may not want to believe the debunker, as that would mean giving up your dream.

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2016, 06:46:46 PM »
Hi Vidar,
I'm not pursuing help with my design but thank you for your offer.
You needed help. If none can see your design, you can not expect to get any help.
A patent will also require a working prototype - which you don't have.
What kind of help do you need?
If you ask for help, and don't want our help, this thread is a waste of time ;-)


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Right now I need to find an individual to discuss the physics of this design with
We can discuss. No problem.


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Tim Beane

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Re: Have overunity . . . need help
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2016, 06:53:33 PM »
If you do not claim it as a perpetual device but as an enhancement to efficiency,, then things are not so hard.

It might take a court battle just to get it considered if you claim it as perpetual.

Another trick is to claim it as a toy,, just sayin'  :)

Yes, that approach has been discussed with my patent counsel.  We have opted to hit it head on.  Although it is not being titled as a perpetual device, its theory of operation identifies it as requiring no input to start, or sustain its operation.