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### Author Topic: Increase the potential energy without any energy  (Read 42128 times)

#### activ25

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##### Increase the potential energy without any energy
« on: September 25, 2016, 05:14:10 AM »
Hi guys, I drawn the device and explain the sum of energy.

#### activ25

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 06:57:45 PM »
I don't know how to calculate with maths so I used a program with 1000 bits of precision, just turn 1°, the function must be continuous.

#### activ25

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2016, 11:14:55 PM »
I can have a difference from that:

(http://i.imgur.com/Yz0rKLv.png)

#### activ25

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2016, 10:11:20 PM »

#### FatBird

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2016, 04:14:46 PM »
Just what we need to Save The World & give us free juice, MORE MATH! LOL

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#### activ25

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2017, 09:47:34 AM »
The idea

#### Low-Q

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2017, 09:13:43 AM »
Hi guys, I drawn the device and explain the sum of energy.
You reduce the volume inside the triangle. This will increase the pressure.
I am very sure you must put energy in somehow.

Vidar

#### forest

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2017, 09:23:39 AM »
I think you need something with quadrature rising like energy of capacitor

#### activ25

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2017, 10:49:45 AM »
You reduce the volume inside the triangle. This will increase the pressure.
I am very sure you must put energy in somehow.

Vidar

It was an old idea and I found my error in that device. And no, the volume of the triangle can be kept constant. But anyway, I'm interesting about a new idea in the pdf file. I explained all details of the device.

#### activ25

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2017, 10:50:15 AM »
I think you need something with quadrature rising like energy of capacitor

I don't understand

#### Low-Q

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2017, 12:24:44 PM »
It was an old idea and I found my error in that device. And no, the volume of the triangle can be kept constant. But anyway, I'm interesting about a new idea in the pdf file. I explained all details of the device.
I think the theory in the PDF will remain a theory. You need to manufacture trillions of blue spheres which has no mass (), and just as many tiny tiny tiny springs made of nano tubes. These springs have mass, and will be a part of one product consisting of a sphere and a spring.

To be honest, I did not understood the concept wery well. Why can't you use larger spheres? If they have a given extent anyway, they could likely be made larger and manageable.

Vidar

#### activ25

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2017, 04:21:39 PM »
I think the theory in the PDF will remain a theory. You need to manufacture trillions of blue spheres which has no mass (), and just as many tiny tiny tiny springs made of nano tubes. These springs have mass, and will be a part of one product consisting of a sphere and a spring.

To be honest, I did not understood the concept wery well. Why can't you use larger spheres? If they have a given extent anyway, they could likely be made larger and manageable.

Vidar

I use small spheres to have the right to apply the law of hydrostatic pressure . If a device even in theory breaks the conservation of energy in a closed device, we win ! If I take bigger spheres it is very complex to calculate, here with the law of hydrostatic pressure it is easy and logical.
After, we can find a better solution, with real materials. Even, I think I have good ideas with electromagnetic fields.

#### Low-Q

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2017, 04:58:37 PM »

What is less complex with spheres at 1nm in diameter compared to 1cm in diameter?
The calculations must be the same. Both are spheres.

Vidar

Quote from: activ25 link=topic=16885.msg510881#msg510881 date=w1505917299
I use small spheres to have the right to apply the law of hydrostatic pressure . If a device even in theory breaks the conservation of energy in a closed device, we win ! If I take bigger spheres it is very complex to calculate, here with the law of hydrostatic pressure it is easy and logical.
After, we can find a better solution, with real materials. Even, I think I have good ideas with electromagnetic fields.

#### activ25

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2017, 05:47:02 PM »
What is less complex with spheres at 1nm in diameter compared to 1cm in diameter?
The calculations must be the same. Both are spheres.

Vidar

If the length of the device is 1 meter, no it is not the same. But  if the device is 1000000000 m OK it is the same calculation. I took small value to think with hydrostatic pressure law, if you take for example 100 spheres all people will say, Hey! you can't apply the law of hydrostatic pressure and you must calculate the force on each sphere all the time, it is very complex. I took a parallel with molecules of water but without mass and without friction. And it is for simplify the calculations, not because it couldn't work with mass and friction. No mass, means no delay to apply the pressure when the shape changes, with mass there delay and delay will be differential equations in the calculations.

#### lancaIV

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##### Re: Increase the potential energy without any energy
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2017, 05:57:04 PM »
What is less complex with spheres at 1nm in diameter compared to 1cm in diameter?
The calculations must be the same. Both are spheres.

Vidar

Mathematical 1nm is the m/n part from a meter.
In living science and Physis you enter with that distance a
matter skin/spin dimension,
where quantum mechanics rules the nano-world.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=distance+quantum+mechanics&form=PRPTPT&pc=UE13&httpsmsn=1&refig=3b6f3d36196e46da8d29bde409076b84&ENDPT=0&pq=distance+quantum+mechanics&sc=0-0&sp=-1&qs=n&sk=