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Author Topic: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!  (Read 32880 times)

Offline nwman

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2006, 07:18:31 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:36:53 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #61 on: November 17, 2006, 07:43:23 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:17:51 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #62 on: November 17, 2006, 09:48:04 AM »
This wheel will not work because  what you are doing is effectively reducing the density of the wheel's rim. You have the same amount of mass spread out over a wider circumference as the radius changes so there is in fact no imbalanced condition. Nice try, though.

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #62 on: November 17, 2006, 09:48:04 AM »
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Offline dean_mcgowan

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #63 on: November 17, 2006, 09:48:42 AM »
Hey Ding,

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1453.0.html

dont mean to be rude cross posting like this but i really would love it if you could take a look at my idea.

Cheers,

Dean

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2006, 08:54:38 PM »
It seems to me that if you can increase the difference between the inner and outer diameter the small size of your weights would not be much of a problem. That would be difficult with a lever lock mechanism, but perhaps a slider weight... maybe a shuttle valve inside the tube to lock the weight at each position. Just some thoughts...

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2006, 08:54:38 PM »
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Offline nwman

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #65 on: November 17, 2006, 10:04:07 PM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:18:06 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #66 on: November 17, 2006, 11:44:33 PM »
It seems to me that the net energy "gain" in the system is coming from the stored energy of the latch mechanism (in a spring if using such) and the energy added by stationary magnets. This is compounded by the number of items storing the energy. Each latch gains energy each time it goes by a magnet and stores it in the lifted weight (possibly in a spring as well). Some math will follow in a little while.

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #66 on: November 17, 2006, 11:44:33 PM »
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Offline bottorml

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #67 on: November 18, 2006, 12:17:20 AM »
The progression of torque increase with increasing spoke numbers will go like this:

Using a ft and lbs and a 2ft spoke from the center of the shaft to the farthest point on each spoke and 1lb weights that are either 1ft from center or 2ft from center and all measurement are with one spoke straight up and one spoke straight down that contribute nothing to the torque.

4 spokes = + 1ft*lbs

8 spokes = + 1ft*lbs + 1.414ft*lbs = 2.414ft*lbs

16 spokes = + 1ft*lbs + 1.414ft*lbs + 2.614ft*lbs = 5.028

32 spokes = + 1ft*lbs + 1.414ft*lbs + 2.614ft*lbs + 5.126ft*lbs = 10.154ft*lbs

more math later...

Offline nwman

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2006, 12:23:04 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:37:17 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
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Offline nwman

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #69 on: November 18, 2006, 12:34:38 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:37:30 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #70 on: November 18, 2006, 01:09:20 AM »
Infinite spokes = +114.6ft*lbs of torque with the assumptions from my previous post.

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
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Offline nwman

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2006, 01:53:29 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:18:47 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #72 on: November 18, 2006, 03:20:40 AM »
calculus: take the torque formula for the spokes sticking straight out the sides: (1lbs * 2ft) - (1lbs * 1ft) = 2 ft*lbs
and mulitply that by cos(angle) for a spoke at some other angle to get the torque at that angle. take the integral of the torque at all the angles top to bottom (which adds them all together)

"+" just means i'm getting a positive number

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #73 on: November 18, 2006, 03:27:26 AM »
whoops! I mean (1lbs * 2ft) - (1lbs * 1ft) = 1ft*lbs


Offline nwman

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #74 on: November 18, 2006, 04:14:18 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:19:09 AM by nwman »

 

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