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Author Topic: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!  (Read 33098 times)

Offline nwman

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Re: My Theory! I can find why it wont work! Big suprize!
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2006, 07:19:27 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:12:17 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can find why it wont work! Big suprize!
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2006, 07:54:26 AM »
sweet!

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2006, 09:31:23 AM »
still digesting here...so far sounds good.

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2006, 09:31:23 AM »
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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2006, 10:11:01 AM »
how about an animation picture

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Re: My Theory! I can find why it wont work! Big suprize!
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2006, 10:18:03 AM »
Redirecting vs. Lifting
      If you don?t even try to lift the weight but slide it horizontally it should require less energy and it wouldn?t be going up gravity. Its merely changing the path it travels down but still achieves the over unity.

i think i know what you mean about the sliding of the weight horizontally wich requires less energy to move from one place to another than vertically...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1739.msg18432/topicseen.html#msg18432
« Last Edit: November 24, 2006, 06:01:36 AM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: My Theory! I can find why it wont work! Big suprize!
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2006, 10:18:03 AM »
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Offline tagor

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Re: My Theory! I can find why it wont work! Big suprize!
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2006, 12:32:11 PM »
Thats It! If you have made it this far "way to go" ;D! I lookforward to hearing your thoughts.

see this wheel ( near Paris)

http://www.bixis.com/mouvementperpetuel/index.html


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Re: My Theory! I can find why it wont work! Big suprize!
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2006, 08:45:20 PM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:13:10 AM by nwman »

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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2006, 08:45:20 PM »
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Offline nwman

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Re: My Theory! I can find why it wont work! Big suprize!
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2006, 09:21:15 PM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:13:27 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2006, 09:29:16 PM »
how about an animation picture

I will try to create an animation. I have to learn how to do it with my program again.

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2006, 09:29:16 PM »
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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2006, 12:38:34 AM »
Hi Nwman,
I love these little puzzles.
OK, it cannot work and here is why:

The weights when horizontal both weight 1Kg, but because they are in balance their rotational weight is zero.
The two weights are 1m apart.

If you move the right hand weight 10cm to the right so you have an imbalance.
Relatively speaking, the weight on the left weights 100% of 1Kg and the weight on the right weights 110% of 1Kg.
Result weight is 1 - 1.1 = 0.1Kg
(you can test this part with some kitchen scales couple of weights, bit of string and a ruler with a hole drilled in the centre)

When the weight gets to the bottom you have to lift it 10cm and it weights 1Kg thanks to gravity.
When the weight gets to the top again you need to lift it 10cm and it still weights 1Kg.
Can you see where this is going....

You are gaining 0.1kg of downforce maximum but you are still lifting a full 1Kg of weight top and bottom.
I feel sorry for the mechanic, wasting all his money on a big wheel. Such a pity.

Better off looking at:
1 Tokomaks (MAST) news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3260985.stm
2 MEG device http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megv21.htm
3 Ultra capacitors (3000v variety cannot find a link for it)

Regards

Rob


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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2006, 06:03:22 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:35:49 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2006, 06:03:22 AM »
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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2006, 12:22:33 AM »
Hi Nwman,
OK the way I explained it is not very scientific, my physics lecturer from my college days would probably cringe at my poor explanation.

Lets try it again:

A-----O-----B

A = 1Kg
B = 1Kg
A to 0 = 5m
B to 0 = 5m

force = mass x acceleration
acceleration or g = 9.8 but for to simpify we can use 10.

Moments of A = mass x acceleration x distance = 1 x 10 x 5 = 50nm
Moments of B = mass x acceleration x distance = 1 x 10 x 5 = 50nm


If you move B 1m to the right it now becomes:
Moments of B = 1 x 10 x 6 = 60nm

Difference = moments of A - moments of B = 50 - 60 = 10 nm
To work out the stored energy at this position you need to work the effective mass which is
(force x g) / distance = (10 x 10)/6 = 0.1666 Kg

The energy is force x distance = 0.16666 * 10 * 6 = 10 joules
OK you could work out the rotation energy by doing lots of small increments of a rotation and work out each small piece of energy, but it should come out as 10 joules.

Now to raise the weight B back up the 1m will require some work: mass x acceleration x distance = 1 x 10 x 1 = 10 joules.

Increasing the number of spokes makes no difference.

Regards

Rob

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2006, 04:13:30 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:14:32 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2006, 07:21:14 AM »
Doesn't work sorry!
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 04:36:05 AM by nwman »

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Re: My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2006, 11:50:44 AM »
Now you just have to find a way to lift the weights...

 

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