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Title: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: FatBird on August 16, 2016, 10:59:20 PM

Does anybody know if they ever got this Free Electricity Monster up & running down in Brazil?

http://www.rarenergia.com.br/ (http://www.rarenergia.com.br/)
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Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: e2matrix on August 17, 2016, 07:04:39 PM
According to their website they are building one in Gilman Illinois.  They are Incobrosa Industries.    I find this from Google:  Address: 540 E US Highway 24, Gilman, IL 60938
Phone: (815) 265-4803
Give them a call and find out.
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: seychelles on August 17, 2016, 07:17:50 PM
If that shit does not work , i will shoot myself if i was the inventor..
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: lancaIV on August 17, 2016, 07:21:32 PM
Entering the delivered webpage and scrolling down
http://www.rarenergia.com.br/

10/06/2013 Inicio da construção Gilman - Illinois - EUA(foto oficial nº01):
http://www.rarenergia.com.br/imagem01b.JPG

the last dated Gilman picture
http://www.rarenergia.com.br/gilman%20oficial%2021%20eng.JPG

They are writing (2015) about a new RAR-2016 modell
http://www.rarenergia.com.br/01%20-%2000%20Grau%20-%20Perspectiva-page-001.jpg
http://www.rarenergia.com.br/02%20-%2000%20Grau-page-001.jpg
http://www.rarenergia.com.br/03%20-%2052%20Graus%20-%20Perspectiva-page-001.jpg
http://www.rarenergia.com.br/04%20-%2052%20Graus-page-001.jpg
and so on ....

But there is no "visual" answer to find about the question of machine functionalty or real energy production in Brazil.
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: conradelektro on August 17, 2016, 07:47:32 PM
It was rumoured that this machine was never built. It all is supposedly a photo-montage by an artist, some strange art project.

Of course, nobody really knows what is true or not.

It is hard to believe that anybody with a sound mind would build such a gigantic contraption. If the principle is valid, a smaller scale model would be enough.

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: Vortex1 on August 17, 2016, 08:08:31 PM
A couple of those links show the trajectory of the 680 kg weight, versus the near linear trajectory of the counter balance weight. Quite a contraption to try to decode. I could not find the patents, maybe someone else would have better luck and could decipher the principle of operation.

Bessler may have used the same principle in a much simpler machine......maybe there is hope for Bessler after all.

Conrad said:
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It is hard to believe that anybody with a sound mind would build such a gigantic contraption. If the principle is valid, a smaller scale model would be enough.

I have to agree. Supposedly it works in all the simulations, but these have not been released AFAIK.

Anyone up for trying this out in wm2d?
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: FatBird on August 18, 2016, 11:00:00 PM

http://www.rarenergia.com.br/ (http://www.rarenergia.com.br/)
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Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: lancaIV on August 18, 2016, 11:16:11 PM
http://peswiki.com/directory:rar-energia-ltda-gravity-motor (http://peswiki.com/directory:rar-energia-ltda-gravity-motor)
https://www.google.com/patents/US20130256066 (https://www.google.com/patents/US20130256066)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20131003&DB=&locale=&CC=WO&NR=2013144757A1&KC=A1&ND=1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20131003&DB=&locale=&CC=WO&NR=2013144757A1&KC=A1&ND=1)
page 5     Porto Alegre and Gilman gravity systems (estimated) output : 30 KW

the patent application process in progress:
ger : https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP13768912&tab=main (https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP13768912&tab=main)
en  : https://register.epo.org/application?lng=en&tab=main&number=EP13768912
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: ramset on August 18, 2016, 11:24:32 PM
HHmm
I called to late ,got the machine [not the one in the Pic  ;)]
will call tomorrow and report back.

Thx
Chet K
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: e2matrix on August 19, 2016, 05:23:24 PM
Thanks Chet - I was tempted to call myself but got wrapped up in too many other things.   Looks like they are out there in farming country based on a Google view.   
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: FatBird on August 19, 2016, 05:53:19 PM
I see they have applied for a patent.
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Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: lumen on August 20, 2016, 10:38:05 PM
It's a very ingenious design.
So it works in theory by leveraging a weight for about 45 degrees of crankshaft rotation while the remainder of the time the weight against the crankshaft is constant.

I wonder why there is no video of it running?

Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: ramset on August 21, 2016, 12:24:33 AM
I had to unexpectedly spend the entire day on the road Friday and could not call them .
Will be sure to call on Monday when they open for business.

sorry about that.

Respectfully

Chet K

Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: lumen on August 22, 2016, 07:13:47 PM
At the building on google maps

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.763469,-88.0119692,3a,15y,222.79h,90.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1staMppMrotD6UA8o_GxGinw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

If you move around a bit, you can almost see the machine inside the building.
Still no word if it's actually running?
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: ramset on August 23, 2016, 08:01:45 PM
Well
very nice indeed!!
will be adding more info here as this moves forward, and yes it is really there in Gillman as well as Brazil.

very nice indeed !

respectfully

Chet K
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: TinselKoala on August 24, 2016, 02:22:55 AM
Of course they aren't running!
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: ramset on August 24, 2016, 03:35:46 AM
Well
At this Point ...It is not for me to say [still early stages of introductions] , I would imagine that there is much passion attached to this project
and I believe it is a work in progress.

It is hoped that OUR group can become more familiar with this work and keep the world up to date on its progress.

respectfully
Chet K
PS
Besides it is a ridiculously Cool Monster that most of us would just love to see in motion ...
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: e2matrix on August 24, 2016, 06:14:40 AM
At the building on google maps

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.763469,-88.0119692,3a,15y,222.79h,90.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1staMppMrotD6UA8o_GxGinw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.763469,-88.0119692,3a,15y,222.79h,90.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1staMppMrotD6UA8o_GxGinw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

If you move around a bit, you can almost see the machine inside the building.
Still no word if it's actually running?
You're right!   I could definitely see part of it when I got to just one spot looking in the right side end door.   Cool!   It's hard to imagine they would be building a second one if the first one didn't work.   
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: conradelektro on August 24, 2016, 08:56:50 AM
At the building on google maps

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.763469,-88.0119692,3a,15y,222.79h,90.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1staMppMrotD6UA8o_GxGinw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.763469,-88.0119692,3a,15y,222.79h,90.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1staMppMrotD6UA8o_GxGinw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

If you move around a bit, you can almost see the machine inside the building.
Still no word if it's actually running?

To "almost see" is not the same as "to really see" the machine through the open door.

Even if one could see some machine, it could simply be a machine to process soya plants.

So, they are building big machines, but for what purpose? A hoaxter with good image processing skills could use that fact to fabricate the tale of the two monstrous OU machines (which may well be soya processing machines, one in Brazil and the other in the USA).

Oh yes, one can swing some weights along a contorted path to harvest energy from gravity. Aliens have such a monster in their UFOs and fly through the galaxy faster than light. They wind it up with a crank lever and off they go, for free and for ever. And one "almost sees" the UFOs. Of course there are photos of UFOs and witnesses. The Grey aliens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_alien are grey because they have to grease the monster gravity machine day in and day out. They have the grey grease all over their body. The Grey aliens are therefore also very slippery, hard to catch. :P :-X

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: lumen on August 24, 2016, 03:45:46 PM
It's fun to make light of this because we all know it's impossible right?

But then, there it is, the machine is real, the patent is real and the only thing not known is why is it there if it does not work?
This thing is like a train wreck, it goes on forever and you just can't stop looking at it.


Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: camelherder49 on August 26, 2016, 03:48:34 AM
To say that gravity is not responsible for acting on other elements, such as water or other matter,
one has to have his head deep in the sand.  If anyone feels that sunlight falling onto
a turbine blade causes the force to turn that turbine, they must be high up in Colorado.

Before anyone comes back with the sun produces the force, first tell me what the sun
does not do. Absent the sun there is no human,no animal, no plant --  only sub zero
ice scape across the earth. And there is no need for anything at that point.

So that being said, the sun is responsible for every facet of existence. Gravity acting on
the liquid water from height causes the force that hits the blades to turn the generator.
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: Temporal Visitor on August 26, 2016, 11:14:42 AM
It's fun to make light of this because we all know it's impossible right?

Wrong: Those that "think" all know "it's impossible" have yet to learn how little they themselves truly "know".

Wrong: For the FACT they themselves still do not "KNOW" how to MAKE and GAIN "ENERGY", and most likely will not do the WORK to actually learn how.

Perhaps they never will.

Do you think it would be fun to make light of those in still the dark, playing with sparks, dimly thinking they are truly bright?

But then, there it is, the machine is real, the patent is real and the only thing not known is why is it there if it does not work?
This thing is like a train wreck, it goes on forever and you just can't stop looking at it.

Similarly: Once a few learn HOW, they cannot stop seeing WHY, although they them self do not control WHEN others might also.

It is; ALL IN THE HANDS OF TIME.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=062qph0IqYE
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: Temporal Visitor on August 26, 2016, 11:55:14 AM
To say that gravity is not responsible for acting on other elements, such as water or other matter,
one has to have his head deep in the sand.  If anyone feels that sunlight falling onto
a turbine blade causes the force to turn that turbine, they must be high up in Colorado.

Before anyone comes back with the sun produces the force, first tell me what the sun
does not do. Absent the sun there is no human,no animal, no plant --  only sub zero
ice scape across the earth. And there is no need for anything at that point.

So that being said, the sun is responsible for every facet of existence. Gravity acting on
the liquid water from height causes the force that hits the blades to turn the generator.

Bravo, nicely said.

In reality like it or not this goes much deeper:

The acceleration of Matter is an action and event in time and space that any man can effect anywhere, anytime with his God given free will.
 
Nature, the place you undeniably exist and presently live within gives its instantaneous reaction to such actions and events as Kinetic "energy" within the Matter being accelerated every time, everywhere any and all Matter is moved from the place Nature placed it originally or that a man, beast or otherwise last left it to rest.
 
It is a fact that man's ACTION of EFFECTING the EVENT of ACCELERATION of NATURE'S MATTER gives rise to NATURE'S CAUSE of KINETIC ENERGY MANIFESTING WITHIN THE MATTER ITSELF IN REACTION, and that manifestation of ENERGY occurs at a predetermined rate prescribed BY NATURE known fundamentally to man as Ek = 1/2mv^2.
 
The flip side of this is that any man who does nothing gets nothing.

 
Everything anyone needs has been provided for long ago and awaits discovery IN TIME, therefore it seems reasonable to believe Kinetic energy has been available since before man.
 
When we look at what is actually required for Kinetic energy to manifest the list is quite short: Nature, Matter, Acceleration.
 
Sadly man has not progressed far enough to DISCOVER what should have been DONE not less than 100 years ago with Kinetic energy from Nature within Nature's Matter in motion that Nature allows any man to do his WORK WITH.

As for those with their "head deep in the sand" they may find themselves "outta time" with their a$$et$ burned: in the Sun.

Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: lumen on August 26, 2016, 04:58:36 PM
I have constructed the machine in software as shown in the patent and can now see why it does not work.

In some attempt to correct the problem is likely the reason they are making changes in the design on the large machines.
I think it's a circular fix in that it will always be just one more step to get it running.

Maybe I try a few changes myself and see where it goes.
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: ramset on August 26, 2016, 05:07:34 PM
Well
It is quite possible that there could be a discussion here around this machine [and maybe more ??] ,I will be speaking with them again in the near future.

respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: lancaIV on August 26, 2016, 07:51:05 PM
http://overunity.com/13500/brazil-company-is-building-a-gravity-generator-httpwww-rarenergia-com-br/150/#.V8CBJsUrwSM (http://overunity.com/13500/brazil-company-is-building-a-gravity-generator-httpwww-rarenergia-com-br/150/#.V8CBJsUrwSM)

http://www.overunity.com/13480/big-try-at-gravity-wheel/#.V8CCMMUrwSM
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: conradelektro on August 27, 2016, 08:44:53 AM
Well
It is quite possible that there could be a discussion here around this machine [and maybe more ??] ,I will be speaking with them again in the near future.

respectfully
Chet K

This is the typical double talk in the OU environment. Can't you write plain statements?

Did you talk to someone who could shed light on the mysterious machine?

If yes, what is it all about?

If no, say so?

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: ramset on August 27, 2016, 11:33:16 AM
This is most typical of "entitled" people that make everything into a Joke whenever possible and suddenly find it is hard to be taken seriously ,or even participate in a serious conversation.[they end up in the dark and confused]

Why Conrad are you lacking for material ?
need a few more punch lines?

is your phone broken ??
call them up and tell them you wish to embarrass them [or yourself] on a public forum ??

for a few cheap laughs !!

let us know how that works out for you !

and then report back here !!

Chet K


Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: lumen on August 27, 2016, 08:51:01 PM
This is a short animation of how the machine in the patent does not operate.
It's visually a bit different but it's based on patent information and principal.
The large flywheel was added to slow the operation and to measure gain in energy if existent.


You can see that at the point where the load is shifted onto the crank arm, the roberval arms are low and the leverage shift causes an upward pull which works against the crank direction instead of adding to it as thought.
Title: Re: Monster Free Electricity Machine.
Post by: FatBird on August 28, 2016, 10:04:24 PM
Excellent animation film.  Thanks.

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