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Offline vikram_gupta11

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Perpetual Energy Wheel
« on: August 15, 2016, 12:16:01 PM »
This Idea is based on Magnetic Repulsion and Kinetic force.

According to diagram there will be a  Wheel and a magnet(1) will be attached with this wheel. There will be a balance system(seesaw system) and two magnets(2no.magnet and 3no. magnet) will be attached with this balance system .

when 1 magnet will repel 2 no.magnet then the 2 no.magnet will move upward and due to this movement the 3 no. magnet will come down and will work to repel 1 no. magnet and wheel will start to rotate.
when 1 no. magnet will again repel 2 no.magnet after a rotation then the 3 no. magnet will again work to repel the 1 no.magnet.
THE weight of magnets of balance system will be equal.
In this way the wheel will rotate again and again.The magnetic strength of 1 no. magnet will be high than 2 no. and magnetic strength of 3 no. magnet will be high than 1 no. magnet.

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Perpetual Energy Wheel
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Offline Smann

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2016, 03:15:02 PM »
Honestly, I do not believe such things are possible...it will stop eventually.

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2016, 07:56:06 AM »
It will not stop as this machine is fulfilling all the requirements to be a perpetual machine and this machine is getting initial energy with itself power to rotate so it will work.

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2016, 09:12:50 PM »
Easier to see the whole picture...

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2016, 10:27:59 PM »
If number 1 magnet is repelling number 2 magnet that means that number 2 magnet is also repelling number 1 magnet so what will happen is as number 1 gets close to number 2 then it will stop and not actually move number 2 magnet.  You can't have  the magnets only acting in one direction.  Whatever force number 1 applies to number 2 is also applied back to number 1 and therefore it will stop the wheel from turning.  Sorry, but you really need to spend some time actually working with magnets and then you would see this.

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
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Offline vikram_gupta11

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2016, 06:12:50 AM »
Dear Sir,
you are neglecting 3 no. magnet which will come down to push 1 no. magnet .I'm very well known about magnetism and  you are also neglecting another point which is about MAGNETIC STRENGTH. I know  that magnets repel each other due to equal polarity .The 3 no. magnet will work to push this 1 no. magnet .The weight of the balance system's magnet will be equal but magnetic strength will be different. The magnetic strength of 1 no. magnet will be high than 2 no. magnet and magnetic strength of 3 no. magnet will be high than 1 no. magnet.This 3 no. magnet will work to push this system.THINK AGAIN ABOUT DIFFERENT MAGNETIC STRENGTH of  THESE MAGNETIC STRENGTH.
Please review carefully and if possible then do some research you will find your answer that this machine will work definitely.

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2016, 07:13:00 AM »
The 2 no. and 3 no. magnet will be attached on a SEESAW or a BALANCE system and the whole mechanism will be done very quickly and more over thing is that this wheel will get extra kinetic energy due to repelling magnetism.

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2016, 02:16:53 PM »
Permanent magnets have the same magnetic properties all the time.
When you push two magnets with equal polarity towards eachother ("repel mode"),
they are then added potential energy that is based on the distance and the magnetic strength.
This potential energy will be released as kinetic energy if you loos grip on one or both magnets.


If one magnet is weaker than the other, you apply the very same potential energy into both.
An easy demonstration of this is to face two equally heavy magnets together, but one is stronger than the other.
If you release them, both magnets will fly away with the same distance - in opposite directions.


That means it is no differencs in your construction if the magnets have different strength,
say you have N30 in number 1, N40 in number 2, and N50 in number 3. or if you rearrange the magnets.
Doesn't matter.


As your claim says, that you have knowledge of magnet, and how they work, you still forget that permanent magnets cannot do work.


Sorry, but your idea, even if it is for a good cause, you are wrong about the magnets inner workings.


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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2016, 05:25:40 PM »
I  think you have no knowledge about magnetism and have not reviewed this design carefully. .As I mentioned in this Idea that 1 no. magnet will repel 2 no. magnet  and due to this repelling force the balance system 's one part will move towards upside and second part or 3 no. magnet  will come down to repel this 1 no. magnet.If you take two magnets and repel each other than these magnets moves very fast due to equal polarity magnetism .
In this way this device will work. think again about this Idea.

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2016, 10:13:38 PM »
Go ahead & buy a used bicycle wheel cheap & build it.

Show us that it will work by building it.

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2016, 10:40:55 PM »
I  think you have no knowledge about magnetism and have not reviewed this design carefully. .As I mentioned in this Idea that 1 no. magnet will repel 2 no. magnet  and due to this repelling force the balance system 's one part will move towards upside and second part or 3 no. magnet  will come down to repel this 1 no. magnet.If you take two magnets and repel each other than these magnets moves very fast due to equal polarity magnetism .
In this way this device will work. think again about this Idea.
I have plenty of knowledge of magnets, but that is not the point. You can't suddenly trick the nature of energy just by listening to people who have a degree in physics.


You want magnet 1 to repel magnet 2, so the seesaw can move magnet 3 towards magnet 1 and repel it again.
Actually, to do this you do not need magnets at all, but just connect all together with glue. Because all you do is to move a force that starts with magnet 1, in a loop through magnet 2 and 3, and back to magnet 1.


Magnets can't do work. Gravity can't do work. If you take a non working magnet and add non working gravity, it will still not work.


You must build it to realize that you're wrong. Then you must scratch your head for a while, figuring out where you went wrong.
If you do not have the tools, equipments and magnets, I am happy to build it for you. I have all things necessary to build this. A 3D printer to build custom parts etc. Just hand me an instruction manual, drawing or whatever I need to built it like you whish.


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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2016, 10:40:55 PM »
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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2016, 07:41:47 AM »
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Are you ready ? Are you really ready to build a working energy wheel ? Or it's just a next useless comment ? Because there is a bit of truth in concept presented by vikram_gupta11, however it needs quite a lot of modifications.

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Re: Perpetual Energy Wheel
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2016, 05:27:38 PM »
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Are you ready ? Are you really ready to build a working energy wheel ? Or it's just a next useless comment ? Because there is a bit of truth in concept presented by vikram_gupta11, however it needs quite a lot of modifications.
Not really a useless comment. I can build it with the proper instructions. Really!
I'm just as interesting in ways to make things work as the rest of you guys are. However, I do not think it will work, but since it cost me next to nothing to build it, I made a honest offer to do so.
If you guys do not want me to do so, please let me know.


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