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Offline Kator01

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2006, 09:52:09 PM »
Hello Dingus Mungus,

I think you have a good gut-feeling.
Look here what member PESE send me today : It is exactly the modus operandi this person SM is doing here, creating confusion etc.

Read carefully and do not spend your valuable time with scams created by swindlers and dobious lawyers.

http://www.padrak.com/ine/SMARK.html

Kator

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2006, 09:52:09 PM »

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2006, 10:45:21 PM »
Kator,
Raymond Dale
is an disinformation agent.

And I wonder if it is him ?

Drug Hunt Lab Break-In
THREE men wanted to steal drugs when they broke into the government forensic laboratories and attempted to burn it down, a court was told yesterday. Scott Raymond Dale entered the witness stand to deny he and two others went to the laboratories to destroy evidence on behalf of another man.  Under cross-examination by prosecutor Linda Mason, Mr Dale said he was not "going down" for a bomb.  "You think someone who uses amphetamines would go and blow it up?" he said.  "Blow it up my arm, that's the only place I'm going to blow it."  Mr Dale, Trevor Stuart Fox and Bernard Graham Hall have all pleaded not guilty to being involved in an attempt to blow up the forensic laboratories at New Town in March 2000.  Mr Dale, 25, of Illawarra Rd, Glenorchy, said that in 2000 he had been addicted to amphetamines and that Mr Fox had been his supplier. He said Mr Fox had told him, Wayne Howlett and Joseph Tonner that he knew where seized drugs were kept and that if they stole them, they would be shared 50-50. The court heard Mr Dale, Mr Howlett and Mr Tonner went to the laboratories with a torch and two cans of petrol. Mr Dale said the petrol was to be used to burn the building down to cover any fingerprints they might leave. He denied knowing a bomb was inside the torch. (continued)

Source: The Advertiser/Gavin Lower/7 December 2004/ http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11612818%255E421,00.html

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2006, 02:22:29 AM »
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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2006, 02:22:29 AM »
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Offline Grumpy

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2006, 08:40:29 PM »
Like Marinnov said (actually, I think it was a friend of his),  review the work of Nikola Tesla - it's all in there - everything.

rapid collapse of field - cavitation - shock wave - energy

Tao was standing at the door - did he open it?

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2006, 02:59:21 AM »
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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2006, 02:59:21 AM »
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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #50 on: November 25, 2006, 04:12:18 AM »
To allcanadian and your Reply#44:
Partaanen(Europositron) 20 Mill. investment and
R.O.I. 2000 Mill. exspectation + 8% royalties !
Perendev-power,500 Mill. demand
Awad -water to hydrogen compressor- 1 Mill. investment demand
for exspected 100 Mill. R.O.I.!

You can calculate: for each invested 1$ = 100$ R.O.I. exspectation !

More: the M.P.I. and the Potomac power system financial growth
for the next years,in theory !

Sincerely
            de Lanca

p.s.: Can you now understand their view or behaviour ?




« Last Edit: November 25, 2006, 05:38:53 PM by lancaIV »

Offline sparkman

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #51 on: November 25, 2006, 07:38:56 AM »
To All

  I have been asked in a private message from someone to remove the  quoted  comments from SM in a proir message (#19 in "eyewitness accounts" on Nov 9 2006) as it "may create doubts among some people". I will in fact respect this request as it was done in a gentlemanly manner. If I get feedback from forum members that I should for some reason not delete these comments due to the fact that rather than raising doubts, they verify convictions, then I will honor the majority. PM's also welcome.

     Sparkman
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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
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Offline Dingus Mungus

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #52 on: November 25, 2006, 08:11:49 AM »
The current level of conspiracy among our members is too funny. Everything from censoreship to the deletion of member accounts and all their information. This is a soap opera not a fact finding mission. Unless we switch gears all we'll find is dead ends.

 ???

I guess another one bites the dust. Supresion is a bitch and we got duped in my opinion. Any progress this forum was once making on this device has been swiftly undone with internal member politics...

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #53 on: November 25, 2006, 08:28:48 AM »
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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
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Offline Dingus Mungus

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #54 on: November 26, 2006, 02:59:45 AM »
moved from sm main thread

Steve Marks did not need anyone feeding him how to build this TPU so technically neither do you!

How do you know that for sure? Are the patents in his name? Was he not working with a R&D team or partnership of some sort?

What Mannix and Steve have provided; many lengthy videos, cutting open of the TPU, 

Actually SM provided these not Mannix, and they were ways of showing the basic structure of a TPU and have led to these discussions and experiments. All of the video evidence is great and is the only thing that keeps me interested in this at all.

personal discussions and conversations, risking their pensions to help humanity....

This was the work of Mannix all of which is unconfirmable, and if a pension was risked it was by Mannix and not our members. I'm only asking for authentication of some sort, and people are acting like thats too much to ask for. I can take a picture of myself holding a piece of paper thats says "overunity.com" and not risk my pension, is he not able to post any new evidence of the device existance.

Anything that proved it was and is Steve Mark who is reading and responding to these statements would quiet me and any other skeptics in here. All we need to know is that this is not disinformation being perparated by an imposter of some sort.

they have done more than enough, now it is our turn. Evan

Not exaxtly no humanity has been helped yet. If it is indeed the real inventor of this device trying to help us understand something, he is only creating a possibility of helping humanity and it is dependant on one of us monkeys replicating the device from scratch with no real data on components at all. So if creating a less the one percent chance of the device being understood to the point of replication is "doing enough for mankind" we are all doomed and greatly explains why overunity is not a reality by now.

Just my 2 cents

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2006, 04:52:26 AM »
Hydrogen update for Mramos:
ResinRat and myself are in PM communication currently and he's been working with multible cells. He is working on finding a chemical or redundant cell balance as far as I know. Since it has already been proven the anode is reducing itself as part of cell operation those who replicate must find the balance point where the hydrogen is only produced as quickly as the anode is reduced.

You should consider replication of an experiment from the patent if you have a place to safely work with hydrogen already. Experiment 13 is very very interesting but there are many other equally as important experiments listed. Drop me a letter and I can help you obtain some components for cheap. Also was it you who had the bublers "failing"? (AKA blown to bits)

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2006, 04:52:26 AM »
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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2006, 10:44:54 PM »
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Offline Dingus Mungus

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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #57 on: November 28, 2006, 02:58:56 AM »
I want to retort but I don't know where to begin.

If everyone in the whole world had access to schematics of how to build a TPU why would anyone want to go to war? Each person would quickly become fully off the grid independant. If you're experiencing a drought of clean water you can purify water with heat from the free energy. Nuclear winter got you down, live under ground and use FE to grow crops with artificial light. Waste piled up high, Vaporize it with FE. Really though I can not fore see anyone but the corupt governments using FE for evil. Just like now... What would it take for your whole block to get armed to the teeth and invade the next street over? Not a chance in hell of it happening right? Well governments have been doing exactly that since the birth of civilization and FE won't change them one way or another. The reason governments don't want this technology to escape is it means no one will pay taxes, no one will fight there wars, no one will care about their plans if they don't need anything from the government. Real independance is what they are trying to avoid, it has nothing to do with money or politics. Mayber this will make sense to others maybe not, but the point is gang members with TPU guns will not mob the streets and the governments of the world have better weapons already. No matter what you tell me a TPU can not cause the same devastation as an atomic bomb.

Cop outs and excuses are just that.
Sharing a simple schematic will not end the world or start a war.

Side Note:
If you're disappointed in the cynicism and skepticism, just imagine how you'll feel in ten years when this device is still no where to be found and its inventor has died and took its secrets to the grave.
I bet you'll need a stiffer word then disappointed by then.


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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2006, 03:43:35 AM »
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Re: A PLACE FOR DEBATE
« Reply #59 on: November 28, 2006, 05:59:56 AM »
Ya
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