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Title: Figuera-Device Research - A Different Approach
Post by: guest1289 on August 11, 2016, 06:35:14 AM
   I don't have any of the academic background,  or experience, that the current researchers into the  Figuera-Device  have,  so my opinions are simplistic .
   (  I do realize that they claim that only full-size replicas of the original Figuera-Device,  and also using original materials can replicate the original Figuera-Results,  but I don't think that's totally correct,  since the probability that Figueras limited designs and tests stumbled upon a rare instance of overunity,  are fairly low  )

    Currently, the arguments seem to be if the coils should be arranged  facing  North-To-North, or North-To-South.
    (  This argument has continued for a long time )
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     The research I would have done( if I had equipment etc ),  would have been :

      What I Would Call An Echo-Test :  Simply using 2 lengths of wire ( or 2 single loops, or 2 coils containing just 3 loops ),    and then,   using an external  Non-Contact induction-loop to send a very short and strong pulse through one of the wires ( or loops or coils ),  and then see if and or how long that is echoed to and fro from 1 wire, to the other.

               - So,  using this setup, see which configuration gives best results,  North-To-North, or North-To-South.

               -  This would be tried with, and without a core,  placed in between the wires ( or coils ).

               -  I would just use DC-curent ( as smooth as possible, as similar to from a battery as possible ),  although of course for later tests it would be pulsed / oscillated.

               -  And then progress to using induced-oscillated/pulsed-DC-current induced into both of the wires ( or coils ).

               - So also,  this could be a simpler way of finding the correct frequencies to maximize the effects of the expanding and collapsing electro-magnetic-fields from one side to the other,  since the collapse of the field of the left-side, could at the same time increase the expansion of the field on the right side,  etc, etc,  and see what frequencies etc work best.

                -  This Simplistic-Test would never produce an overunity-device,  but at least it would point the researchers into the right direction. 
Title: Re: Figuera-Device Research - A Different Approach
Post by: guest1289 on August 21, 2016, 12:53:34 AM
Two possibilities with the 'Figuera-Device' :
 
   ( 1 )  I'm Stating the Obvious -   Is it possible that when this device reached an  'absolute-maximum freqency?'( is there another term  ? ) that that is what allowed this device to be self-running.
       -  I'm thinking that an oscilloscope-image of this device when it was self-running would not show any waves, INSTEAD,  the oscilloscope-screen would just be completely white,  BECAUSE,   there would be so many waves occurring at any-one-point-in-time that the   oscilloscope-screen would just be completely white from so many waves occurring at one-point-in-time.

        If thats true,  how was this machine prevented from melting-down( or exploding ),  especially when you consider that this device  multiplies/amplifies  any power inputted into it( it's outputted-power is it's only inputted-power ).
          -  Could it be that it's  "Rotating-Mechanical-Component"( or the external motor that it powered ) acted as some sort of governor/limitor of power generation.

         You'd think 'Figuera' would have mentioned this problem of controlling/limiting the amount of power his machine generated,  since it's Output-Power was re-fed back into the machine and then   Multiplied/Amplified by a very large factor,  you'd expect the device to vaporize in a flash of light .     

   ( 2 )  Is it possible that there were some impurities in the wiring that he used,  that Decayed in some way,   that Resulted in the surplus-power-output .

   ( 3 )  Is it possible that the wiring that he used( Not-Impurities ), Decayed in some way,   that Resulted in the surplus-power-output .  (  Did 'Figuera' mention any unusual corrosion or other change in the wiring of his device ) .
Title: Re: Figuera-Device Research - A Different Approach
Post by: Doug1 on August 21, 2016, 04:10:51 PM
" Could it be that it's  "Rotating-Mechanical-Component"( or the external motor that it powered ) acted as some sort of governor/limitor of power generation."

 Yes
Title: Re: Figuera-Device Research - A Different Approach
Post by: guest1289 on September 10, 2016, 05:41:11 AM
     The  Figuera-Device,  and / or similar devices,   I assume they outputted a stable  'frequency' ,  rather than continually multiplying the 'frequency' of the output.
     I don't know what the outputted  'frequency' of this device was,  or of similar devices,  or did the inventors have equipment back then that could measure the  'frequency' of these devices

    When devices that did not have commutators( moving parts ) are replicated,  it's possible that these devices only originally worked when used to power an  electric-motor ,  since the continued spinning of the motor, and the ability of motors to also generate current,  could have been what kept the device self-running.
Title: Re: Figuera-Device Research - A Different Approach
Post by: lancaIV on September 11, 2016, 11:36:33 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_motor#/media/File:RMFpatent.PNG (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_motor#/media/File:RMFpatent.PNG)


let rotate the magnetic field not a mass
Title: Re: Figuera-Device Research - A Different Approach
Post by: lancaIV on September 11, 2016, 12:44:30 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbach_array (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbach_array)


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/HalbachArray1.png/330px-HalbachArray1.png (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/HalbachArray1.png/330px-HalbachArray1.png)


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/HalbachArrayFEL2.png/330px-HalbachArrayFEL2.png (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/HalbachArrayFEL2.png/330px-HalbachArrayFEL2.png)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/HalbachArraySchematic2.png/330px-HalbachArraySchematic2.png (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/HalbachArraySchematic2.png/330px-HalbachArraySchematic2.png)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/HalbachArraySchematic1.png/330px-HalbachArraySchematic1.png (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/HalbachArraySchematic1.png/330px-HalbachArraySchematic1.png)


                how can the magnetic force accelerating and amplifying the output ?
                                                  RELATIVISTISCHE KINEMATIK
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=2617553A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19771103&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


                                               
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                                       1.rotating stage : 600 RPM
                                       2.rotating stage : 600 RPM
                               1+2 stages rotations : 360.000 RPM = 600²