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Title: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: gotoluc on July 10, 2016, 03:29:20 AM
Can you find anything (reasonable) that could explain how this video demo was faked:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1jofPLteCY

Please post your related comments

Luc
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: gotoluc on July 10, 2016, 04:38:51 AM
The only thing I can think of is, the large blue Alternator does not contain a rotor and its cavity is filled with Li-on batteries and a 2kw inverter (minimum) to powers the prime mover (induction motor)

Sounds like a very complicated and expensive trick if that's what he really did :-\

Any other ideas?

Luc
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: tysb3 on July 10, 2016, 05:17:16 AM
hi,
it's interesting, how much energy is accumulated by flywheel before looping ?
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: Newton II on July 10, 2016, 05:28:20 AM

I like the design of external flywheel.   Its weight is not acting either on motor or the generator.  Flywheel is not slowing down.
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: Dog-One on July 10, 2016, 05:59:20 AM
Contact him and find out what his angle is.

Sure hate to be his landlord.
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: TinselKoala on July 10, 2016, 08:37:48 AM
That huge flywheel spinning fast stores a _lot_ of energy. I can't tell if it is slowing down or not. Someone should run the soundtrack through an audio spectrum analyzer, which might make it possible to see if it is slowing. The music at the start of operation isn't helping matters. There is also something fishy about the yellow-green "motor". The front side with the shaft is covered with the white paper label saying "Made in German" (sic) and the other side which is clearly visible at about 9:35 or so looks suspicious because you can't see the other end of the shaft, and you can't see any internal wiring etc. through the vent holes. Also very suspicious is the fact that the blue thing's data plate information is deliberately hidden.

Why don't we ever see these things running a house, which is disconnected from the local grid? They are always started up by connecting to house wiring, which is always connected to the local grid.
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: Grumage on July 10, 2016, 02:51:15 PM
Dear Luc.

I was drawn to this thread by pure curiosity.......

I would say the " Alternator " to quote Monty Python is........ A  "Cardboard cut out "..... The terminal block housing is a real giveaway, looks like thin plywood glued together, there's no screws to hold it in place !!   ;)

It's here I need some advice from fellow You Tubers.

Here's my flywheel video.          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32a2SHkvsyc

And now from a mr singh.         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcd4M0AweH0

I found it alongside the video you linked to, at the start of this thread.

Look at the views, our mr singh has released my video without consent and is openly untruthful with the title. What should I do in this situation ?

Cheers Grum. 
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: tinman on July 10, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
Didnt we discuss this setup some time back ?
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: ramset on July 10, 2016, 05:16:03 PM
Grumage

A man who would take your Open source work and use it to steal and deceive is truly despicable .
I will ask him why he thinks he can do this [if he answers his phone].

Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: gotoluc on July 10, 2016, 06:40:50 PM
Hi guys,

thanks for your replies and comments.

TK, I've downloaded the HD video from youtube and have gone over many times. I agree, he should not of place that paper on the induction motor. However, I see nothing particular he is doing with the induction motor that would be a concern.

I searched for 3 hours for a picture of that Italian Alternator and found nothing. If anyone can find the manufacture that would be of great help.

@ Grumage
The youtube account with this topics video is by user AZEEN. The copy of your video and a copy of this topics video is on mr singh account.
mr singh looks to be collecting videos of generators with flywheels.
This should be of interest, I found a very similar video on mr singh account which is like this topics video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNiDHcdZGs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNiDHcdZGs) 
It's done in the same style as this topics video but on a smaller scale. He also presents a similar contact paper with a Norway phone number as well.

Chet, can you try getting a hold of this contact in Norway as they must be related.
Late last night I emailed the below (in bold) to: ifrahnomi@yahoo.com
No reply yet.

Hello,I saw your video demo. It is well done. You have covered possibilities of hidden wires.
The only thing I can think of to make it a fake is the blue alternator "generator" is not real (empty inside) which would make room for batteries and an inverter.
I am a alternative energy researcher, so I am not saying you make a fake device but trying to help you make a more convincing video or trying to cover all possibilities how this could be done if not real.
You would have to first open the alternator to show the inside is complete then do as you did with the frame legs, all without stopping the video recording. Also, don't add music, remove the "made in Germany" paper on the induction motor as people will think you are trying to hide something in the motor and the sound of its rpm.I started a topic at a public free energy forum: http://overunity.com/16721/how-is-this-self-looped-generator-faked/ (http://overunity.com/16721/how-is-this-self-looped-generator-faked/)  which should help bring you more people if you reply and help answer these concerns.
Please let me know if you can make a new video and provide more details to share at the forum topic.Kind regards
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: gotoluc on July 10, 2016, 06:43:41 PM
Grumage

A man who would take your Open source work and use it to steal and deceive is truly despicable .
I will ask him why he thinks he can do this [if he answers his phone].

Chet, I don't think user mr singh is stealing Grumage video for his benefit. It looks to me he is collecting similar videos to spread the information.

Luc
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: gotoluc on July 10, 2016, 07:43:41 PM
Dear Luc.

I was drawn to this thread by pure curiosity.......

I would say the " Alternator " to quote Monty Python is........ A  "Cardboard cut out "..... The terminal block housing is a real giveaway, looks like thin plywood glued together, there's no screws to hold it in place !!   ;)

It's here I need some advice from fellow You Tubers.

Here's my flywheel video.          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32a2SHkvsyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32a2SHkvsyc)

And now from a mr singh.         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcd4M0AweH0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcd4M0AweH0)

I found it alongside the video you linked to, at the start of this thread.

Look at the views, our mr singh has released my video without consent and is openly untruthful with the title. What should I do in this situation ?

Cheers Grum.

Dear Grum,

you must of contacted mr singh as your video has been deleted.

You also look to be right on the construction of the alternator. Looks to be made of 5/8" MDF (pressed fine sawdust) which is very inexpensive and plenty available in that area of the world. You can see the fine edge blade rips.
I originally thought the lines on the alternator were raised but looking closer they are recessed in, which would be the easy way to build it to make a circle.
I also noticed he scratched the paint quite easily when he rested the pump on top of the alternator to connect it as load. A real manufactured baked paint finish would not chip so easy.
Also, the overall end covers bolts don't quite look right.

Looks like this one is busted 8)

Thanks for sharing

Luc
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: Grumage on July 10, 2016, 08:18:42 PM
Dear Grum,

you must of contacted mr singh as your video has been deleted.

You also look to be right on the construction of the alternator. Looks to be made of 5/8" MDF (pressed fine sawdust) which is very inexpensive and plenty available in that area of the world. You can see the fine edge blade rips.
I originally thought the lines on the alternator were raised but looking closer they are recessed in, which would be the easy way to build it to make a circle.
I also noticed he scratched the paint quite easily when he rested the pump on top of the alternator to connect it as load. A real manufactured baked paint finish would not chip so easy.
Also, the overall end covers bolts don't quite look right.

Looks like this one is busted 8)

Thanks for sharing

Luc

Dear Luc.

No...... I contacted You Tube using the  " youtube copyright system " !!  It seems they have worked very quickly.

What really annoyed me was the blatant lie that got him 90,000 + hits in two weeks, I hope no one got burnt.

Back to the " cardboard " alternator, even the badge is hand crafted probably one of those metal foil embossing devices by you know who !!   ;)

Oh, and have you ever tried to jack up your car with your fingers ? If that was a 5 KVA unit it would be in excess of 30 Kg !! No chance !!

As you say.......... Busted.

Cheers Grum.
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: AlienGrey on July 10, 2016, 08:29:07 PM
The only thing I can think of is, the large blue Alternator does not contain a rotor and its cavity is filled with Li-on batteries and a 2kw inverter (minimum) to powers the prime mover (induction motor)

Sounds like a very complicated and expensive trick if that's what he really did :-\

Any other ideas?

Luc
You are having a laugh about the battery's and inverter are you not ?
My point is some other guy had a different video where he is outside with the same sort of generator and he is cranking it by hand, he wasn't very clever as you could see where it was made and the manufacturers name. I looked it up and it's a very clever design that uses lenses law and turns it into energy I did mention it somewhere but no one was interested and said it was off target !  I'm not sure if it was American but can't remember and I have had a new hard drive since then Sorry ! but find that video and you will see ! I'm sure it ain't fake though !  it was blue with a lift house on top just like the one he has, and they were not cheap either !

AG
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: gotoluc on July 10, 2016, 08:48:32 PM
You are having a laugh about the battery's and inverter are you not ?
My point is some other guy had a different video where he is outside with the same sort of generator and he is cranking it by hand, he wasn't very clever as you could see where it was made and the manufacturers name. I looked it up and it's a very clever design that uses lenses law and turns it into energy I did mention it somewhere but no one was interested and said it was off target !  I'm not sure if it was American but can't remember and I have had a new hard drive since then Sorry ! but find that video and you will see ! I'm sure it ain't fake though !  it was blue with a lift house on top just like the one he has, and they were not cheap either !

AG

I remember the hand cranked one. He took it apart and showed drawings on his computer. He was from Indonesia.
Someone sent him $1.5K US partial payment for parts to have a larger one built and never received anything.
I was chosen, not to invest but as stand by to replicate. The investor gave up when he saw things were not working as agreed.

So as good as it looked it may not of been real as well.

Luc
Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: vince on July 11, 2016, 05:16:04 AM
Just an opinion here,
To me it looks like he has built a generator cover out of thin material to cover his original generator from his first video. You can even see the cutoff pieces of the end plates in the beginning of the video when he slides them under the framework to show there are no hidden wires. If you look at the generator in the second video it is unusually large withe a very long thin shaft for its size. Looks like he was trying to cover up the original generator with that cover. Also it looks like the original motor was cleaned up with proper covers and a homemade end plate to hide the writing from his original video.


Vince

Title: Re: How is this self looped Generator faked?
Post by: gotoluc on July 11, 2016, 05:10:22 PM
Hi Vince,

If he didn't want to show his Alternator, why would he go through so much trouble to cover it and make the cover look real?   he could of just covered it with a cloth and save 40 or more hours of work let alone the expense of material. It's hard to believe anyone would go through so much trouble and expense unless he is hiding something else.
It doesn't look good to hide things to that extent. As well, I didn't get a reply to my email, so that doesn't help the cause.

Let see if they delete my youtube comments with the link to this topic.

Luc