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Title: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on July 02, 2016, 01:40:03 PM
Target : http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=12 (http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=12)


Furthermore an internal combustion engine in a vehicle requires acceleration around 1500 rpm to initiate movement to the vehicle, compared with Engineair’s motor which is capable to do so at just one rpm, that is 1500 times better, this exercise is normally repeated many times in congested traffic wasting a significant amount of energy at a considerable cost to our environment.


Based on the above you can see that with Engineair technology is possible to power a vehicle using up to 100 times less energy than current vehicles,and we can do so with out burning any fuel. (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AtmTAwF6Py150FENsxUQmy12a8ZSqzTi7g)




or: city-car hybrid combustion engine(f.e. biofuel or hydrogen ) conversion
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1)
estimated 3 Liter/100 Km fuel consume

combustion engine improvement idea (real numbers ?):
https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=8081 (https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=8081)

improvement of the electric drive
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=MY&NR=137586A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20090227&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=MY&NR=137586A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20090227&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
In FIG. 4,  showing a three-phase implementation of the invention for a three-phase motor 410 (which may be substituted for the motor 260 in FIG. 2A), the input wire for phase A is attached to the left terminal of a first capacitor C1, and another connection is made from a right terminal of capacitor C1 to a left terminal of capacitor C2. The input wire for phase B is attached to the left terminal of capacitor C2, and the other terminal of capacitor C2 is connected to a left terminal of capacitor C3. The input wire of phase C is attached to the left terminal of capacitor C3, and the other terminal of capacitor C3 is connected to the left terminal of capacitor C1. [/font][/size]An output wire for phase A is connected from the left terminal of capacitor C1 to the phase A input of the motor. The output wire for phase B is connected from the left terminal of capacitor C2 to the phase B input of the motor. The output wire for phase C is connected from the left terminal of capacitor C3 to the phase C input of the motor. Test results using a motor configured as in FIG. 4 are as follows: TABLE 6Readings  Readings  Workat 410  at 410  PerformanceBaseline  Three Phase  20.5 psi  Implementation462  V  462  V  1.7  A  1.6  A552  W RMS @  185  W RMS @  20.5 psi  watt meter    watt meter 552  W per hour  185  W per hour


egenerator induction coil coating ! http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/CleanEnergy-Vesperman.pdf (http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/CleanEnergy-Vesperman.pdf) page 2, 1/3 output improvement

                                                                          from 3 Liter to 1 Liter/100 Km ?


Later :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1)
with electric motor improvement (META C or Shkondin,induction coil coated)
 = Enginair power level

and waste energy recuperation http://www.interpatent.de/unsere_innovationen_strom_aus_der_federung.html (http://www.interpatent.de/unsere_innovationen_strom_aus_der_federung.html)
 
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: Qwert on July 03, 2016, 02:33:33 PM
http://reneweconomy.com.au/2013/ge-names-five-low-carbon-competition-winners-in-australasia-65619 (http://reneweconomy.com.au/2013/ge-names-five-low-carbon-competition-winners-in-australasia-65619)

"Engineair – Melbourne engineer Angelo Di Pietro has invented the Di Pietro Engine, a carbon-free alternative to internal-combustion and electric motors. The rotary air engine, powered by compressed air, has up to 94 per cent efficiency and zero polluting emissions."

To propel this "revolutionary" which has 94% efficiency, you need another "revolutionary" generator, to name it "revolutionary". Otherwise, when the generator is conventional, the whole, even most sophisticated and "revolutionary" motor remains conventional. And when you do the math and connect all the links together, all remains conventional there, never 94% efficiency.
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on July 03, 2016, 03:37:14 PM

By free mind and not experiments and functional prototype approved I do to you the question,Qwert:

from the austinev.org page:ic-engine:136HP=100KW ~12,5 KW electro motor
 www.austinev.org/evalbum/motor (http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/motor)
"The peak hp of an electric motor is usually 8 to 10 times its  continuous rating."

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1)
Le couple de sortie à l'arbre 25 à 6000 tours minute,est le même que le couple de sortie du dispositif intérieur en mouvement,volant inerte. Ce dispositif équipé de quatre moteurs de 500 wats,soit 2000 wats, avec une gestion électronique,est susceptible des mêmes performances de couple et de puissance qu'un moteur thermique de 50 ch,tout en assurant les services annexes dont le chauffage et le préchauffage du véhicule.5
La consommation moyenne est de l'ordre de IOOO wats heure.



and implementing to the electric motors this capacitive circuit


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=MY&NR=137586A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20090227&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=MY&NR=137586A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20090227&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)[/size]In FIG. 4,  showing a three-phase implementation of the invention for a three-phase motor [/size]410 (which may be substituted for the motor 260 in FIG. 2A), the input wire for phase A is attached to the left terminal of a first capacitor C1, and another connection is made from a right terminal of capacitor C1 to a left terminal of capacitor C2. The input wire for phase B is attached to the left terminal of capacitor C2, and the other terminal of capacitor C2 is connected to a left terminal of capacitor C3. The input wire of phase C is attached to the left terminal of capacitor C3, and the other terminal of capacitor C3 is connected to the left terminal of capacitor C1. An output wire for phase A is connected from the left terminal of capacitor C1 to the phase A input of the motor. The output wire for phase B is connected from the left terminal of capacitor C2 to the phase B input of the motor. The output wire for phase C is connected from the left terminal of capacitor C3 to the phase C input of the motor. Test results using a motor configured as in FIG. 4 are as follows: TABLE 6Readings  Readings  Workat 410  at 410  PerformanceBaseline  Three Phase  20.5 psi  Implementation462  V  462  V  1.7  A  1.6  A552  W RMS @  185  W RMS @  20.5 psi  watt meter    watt meter  552  W per hour  185  W per hour

                                     repeating the three-phase example result: instead 552W diminuation to 185 W

and the waste energy recuperation  http://www.interpatent.de/unsere_innovationen_strom_aus_der_federung.html (http://www.interpatent.de/unsere_innovationen_strom_aus_der_federung.html)


Does this not serve for an autonom car drive system ?
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: Qwert on July 03, 2016, 08:56:18 PM
Target : http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=12 (http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=12)


Furthermore an internal combustion engine in a vehicle requires acceleration around 1500 rpm to initiate movement to the vehicle, compared with Engineair’s motor which is capable to do so at just one rpm, that is 1500 times better, this exercise is normally repeated many times in congested traffic wasting a significant amount of energy at a considerable cost to our environment.
 

Everything is in its torque, no magic. A relatively small motor, to get its torque, must provide adequate power, and it is mostly in its RPM. I don't believe that small air powered motor (engine?) will start a car from zero speed with mere 1 (one) RPM, even powered by a battery of high-compressed air devices.
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on July 04, 2016, 11:24:05 AM
"I don't believe ": wysiwyg  ::)  http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=14 (http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=14)


                                                                             technical numbers ?
http://www.engineair.com.au/images/stories/imagebrowser1/vsig_images/ENGINEAIR%20PHOTO%20ALBUM_Page_09_885_663_100.jpg (http://www.engineair.com.au/images/stories/imagebrowser1/vsig_images/ENGINEAIR%20PHOTO%20ALBUM_Page_09_885_663_100.jpg)


http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/ (http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/)
The ElectriLite is a 3 wheel, 350 pound, fully enclosed, electric vehicle that is light enough to cruise with less than 2 horsepower (1500 Watts) from batteries, pedal generators, solar photovoltaics, fuel cells or other sources.  Motive power is applied via 2 front gearless, Permanent (NdFeB) Magnet Brushless Direct Current motors that operate at 36-48 volts, 50 amperes at 90% (min) efficiency as traction motors or regenerators.  The ElectriLite is aluminum tubing/sheet framed and designed to be constructed in a community setting with a minimum of tooling.  The roll-bar frame supports a single sheet, polycarbonate, formed in place windshield/roof/rear cover. All electrical power and instruments are controlled by a microprocessor through a single connector and public domain software.  This microprocessor (Instrument Panel Computer – IPC) is connected to a personal computer (NetBook, Laptop…) that broadens the use of the IPC data and control to entertainment and advanced function. The program for the PC is available as open source and therefore available for modification by the user.[/size]
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: Qwert on July 04, 2016, 11:38:22 PM
Grrrrreat!!
Those prototypes are not only light, they also require light people to drive them, no passengers, of course; what about jokeys as drivers? and of course, they'll never hit the roads:too weak and crumble for any road regulation. I repeat: everything is in torque. Yes, they are great as novelty, and nothing practical.
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: Qwert on July 05, 2016, 10:21:09 PM
Sorry LancaIV I spoiled your enthusiasm.
This motor looks really as a good idea. The only problem is with that claim, which says that to move a car, conventional ICE needs 1500 RPM, while this one needs only one RPM for the same effect. IMO, in this concept there must be an equivalent of those 1500 RPM: the adequate air pressure for example, which causes this, is produced by a motor which require adequately equal energy, and that will be more than just 1 RPM to produce adequate pressure (how many strokes of a compressor you need to get an air pressure of 100 psi in a tank in which the initial pressure is zero? It depends on torque of the compressor); no magic.
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on March 16, 2019, 05:42:39 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fripower-elektrofahrzeuge.de%2Felektroauto-umbau-kosten%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fripower-elektrofahrzeuge.de%2Felektroauto-umbau-kosten%2F)
Engine and Power 30 KW electric motor drive ~ 95 KW/130 hp ic engine.   Newton*meter equivalence

http://www.prismz.com/homebuilts/ (http://www.prismz.com/homebuilts/)   https://www.vortechonline.com/scorpion/index.html (https://www.vortechonline.com/scorpion/index.html)                                                                                        135 hp ic engine Scorpion- 133

Flying two-seater electric cars are in the 30 KW electric drive class
Summasumarum in future selling price beginning with 5.000 Euros ( Scorpion-I : 170 Kg weight icl.  Ic engine)

                                      Conventional electric drive conditioning
                              ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              With new electric motor technology ,magnet array and parallel path :     
                                 f.e. SCHILLER , QMPower,Thorq,Geminielectric       
         
                                        twice the torque by same electric power                                   

                                      15 electric KW motor street and flying cars

                https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html (https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html)
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on March 19, 2019, 05:06:25 PM
                                       Electric motor torque out versus electric input

  Simple calculation by known parameters : https://simplemotor.com/calculations/ (https://simplemotor.com/calculations/)

                                    http://maddsci.tripod.com/george/id11.html (http://maddsci.tripod.com/george/id11.html)
                        " .... factor of at least 1000 in terms of torque out for watts in ..... "

                    http://www.epi-eng.com/piston_engine_technology/power_and_torque.htm


 I do not know which numbers of real Jakelj electric motor performance teste he, Alan Heglund, is refering and comparing !
                          Outperformer ?  By the above " theoretical 1000/1 ratio"

                                and comparing with Hitachi,Siemens,GeneralElectric,Raser,QMpower,......                                                                                                              e-drives ? Absolutely !
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on March 21, 2019, 11:21:41 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.heise.de%2Ftr%2Fartikel%2FPost-aus-Japan-Der-Radnabenmotor-kommt-nun-wirklich-4330909.html%3Fwt_ref%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fgetpocket.com%252Frecommendations%26wt_t%3D1553163315915
                       100 KW ( 135 HP)  / 32 Kg  power density  ~  3 KW / Kg
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on March 21, 2019, 12:23:39 PM
Industrial prototypes of " low consume" cars :
 a.  https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_VESTA_2 (https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_VESTA_2)
                27 hp( 20 KW )

 b . https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.autobild.de%2Fklassik%2Fartikel%2Fvw-oeko-polo-1987--59105.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.autobild.de%2Fklassik%2Fartikel%2Fvw-oeko-polo-1987--59105.html)
                27 hp / G- 40 hp
Taking their
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fripower-elektrofahrzeuge.de%2Felektroauto-umbau-kosten%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fripower-elektrofahrzeuge.de%2Felektroauto-umbau-kosten%2F)

internal combustion engine/ electric motor power-to-wheel ratio :
street ( velocity max.) legal electric cars needs only a. (27/95)x30 or  b. (40/95)x30

a. nominal 9 KW electric motor                    b. nominal 13 KW electric motor

As DIY hybrid drive system for such power level :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1#)


Smaller and more efficient hybrid drive IC-engine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_disk_engine (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_disk_engine)
https://www.aquariusengines.com/ (https://www.aquariusengines.com/)
http://www.proepowersystems.com/PROEHOME.HTM (http://www.proepowersystems.com/PROEHOME.HTM)

And smaller and more efficient electric motors and electric generators :
from the 3 liter/ 100 Km hybrid drive consume we can improve and reach the 1 liter/ 100 km range

The ic engine fuel ?
For 1 liter/ 100 Km cars ( or DIY power plants ) :

a. NH3
b. Synthetic " stretched hydro-carbon" fuel-gas

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830126&CC=ZA&NR=8201755B&KC=B# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19830126&CC=ZA&NR=8201755B&KC=B#)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20161028&CC=NZ&NR=627734A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20161028&CC=NZ&NR=627734A&KC=A#)
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on March 22, 2019, 09:50:14 PM
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14020 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14020)
With only 1 liter/100 Km (#10 improvements) fuel exhaust and particles filtering these internal combustion hybrid cars are as clean/dirty like PREMIUM CLASS electric cars .
The " fine particle " production and pollution remains :
street surface abration and wheel friction
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fmobilitaet%2F2017-02%2Ffeinstaub-motoren-luftverschmutzung-reifen-abrieb-bremsen
Here the main pollution parameters : velocity and weight and brake , start/stop interval
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2019, 01:19:56 PM
                                                         Net  zero energy vehicle drive
                                                            ______________________
                         "Net Zero"- conditioning is when input and output neutralize themself

              electric motor : input 100 e-units and motor output conventional 80 mechanic output
             electric generator : mechanic input 100 units and 80 electric units output         
                                                 -------------------------------------

              for 80% conversion efficient electric motors and generators the calculation is :
               100 e-units in and 80 units out and generator 80 units in and 64 e-units out
                                                --------------------------------------
              so the calculative improvement factor need for the " net zero cyle" is :
                                                             100/64 = 1,5625 or 56,25%

     A.        a 1,5625 x better electric motor ( related to conventional ) = up to  torque doubling
                                                                  or
     B.        a 1,5625 x better electric generator ( related to conventional )
                                                                 or 
     C.         a 1,5625 x better resonant power in-/ output circuit cotrolling bypass device

                   Because there is now the demonstration of many high torque/Watt motors f.e
            https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html (https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html)
           Flynn :  https://www.qmpower.com/ (https://www.qmpower.com/)
             and lower torque-in/ higher Watt-out generators ( Kumar, Frunzi, Iida,.Marques,.....)

                                    and the 3d print technology for EE prototyping f.e.
https://www.instructables.com/id/600-Watt-3d-printed-Halbach-Array-Brushless-DC-Ele/ (https://www.instructables.com/id/600-Watt-3d-printed-Halbach-Array-Brushless-DC-Ele/)

 A.,B. and C. demonstration units as roto-transverter will become soon shown
                                                                                   C.

CN-chinese power amperage amplifier ( output power doubler, cascade-array possibility,EP-patent office granted )



For learning from the others and improving the performance :

https://peswiki.com/directory:motor-generator-self-looped-with-usable-energy-left-over
https://peswiki.com/directory:super-efficient-electric-motors-and-generators
https://peswiki.com/directory:electric-motors
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on May 16, 2019, 08:36:31 PM
Which technology will win ?

low cost  20-100 US$/KW

https://www.google.com/search?q=reinhardt+turbine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=reinhardt+turbine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
https://www.planetforward.org/idea/turbine-power-at-piston-prices-rt-an-integrated-combined-cycle-engine-with-up-to-75-efficiency (https://www.planetforward.org/idea/turbine-power-at-piston-prices-rt-an-integrated-combined-cycle-engine-with-up-to-75-efficiency)  combustion engine for



https://patents.google.com/patent/DE4332378A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE4332378A1/en)
  gen-set,hybrid

and with this " fuel"
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14813 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14813)

Less than 1 Liter  :) water  ;D per 100 kilometers hybrid drive consume.
Funny future,  if that becomes real.


"Fuel" source generator : dehumidifier ,small devices 10 Liter per day air extraction ~ 1000 Km
or easier : waiting and collecting " free fuel "- rain ::)


And finally only 10% from estimated /KW costs :        https://arpa-e.energy.gov/?q=arpa-e-programs/rebels (https://arpa-e.energy.gov/?q=arpa-e-programs/rebels)
                                                                                                                1500 US$/KW
       
          rebels bonmot : fat prices are ugly
         Future program : ( c)lean price management
 
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on May 17, 2019, 09:31:44 AM
https://overunity.com/18228/1000000-kilometer-with-1-kwh-battery/msg534440/#new (https://overunity.com/18228/1000000-kilometer-with-1-kwh-battery/msg534440/#newelectric)   

    electric generator prices
and
Reinhardt Turbine price estimation 20-100 US$/KW

( I mean to have reed that Toyota mass-produces their IC engines in the 10 US$/KW costs range)

and the water-as-fuel-reformer  ?/KW             https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14813 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14813)

could mean : total energy converter costs  150 US$/KW  by production start and later 100 US$/KW average
                 
                         and latestly 2040 by 3d-Reprap- industry-printing and licence-free                                                                                                                               
                                                                 < 50 US$/ KW
         for water-electric energy-farming, KWh- production costs = 1 US$cent to less
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on June 08, 2019, 12:48:14 PM
Many E. U. cities will reduce street velocity to 30 Km/h max. !
Commuter cars will become the"city-/urban mobile" solution :
an example how from "standart modell" vehicle modifying can change performance and competitive price :
https://www.twizy-forum.de/projekte-twizy/83216-100-km-das-ist-kein-scherz-mehr?start=135 (https://www.twizy-forum.de/projekte-twizy/83216-100-km-das-ist-kein-scherz-mehr?start=135)
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on August 17, 2019, 07:45:35 PM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Franz+hawlitschek&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Franz+hawlitschek&IN=&CPC=&IC=)
From this publication
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910801&CC=DE&NR=4022622A1&KC=A1#

" Minikraftwerk B"

he,Haeusler Zsolt,took this design :https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1#)

Not the generator nominal value important but the given nominal electric drive value , but strictly - velocity/mass related :
                      FOR URBAN CARS, IC engine to e- drive conversion : nominal 1,5 KW electric

Instead conventional electric motor :
A.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Roberto+catalan&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Roberto+catalan&IN=&CPC=&IC=)
3. Catalan only applied  his motor invention for the US commercial market, not international = no WO grant !
B.http://maddsci.tripod.com/george/id10.html (http://maddsci.tripod.com/george/id10.html)
With 3-4 KWh battery or ultra- battery pack equipped converted  e-city cars !
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on September 04, 2019, 08:02:48 PM
12500 Km drive per annum means : 200 working days ~ 62,5 km/day and divided by 365 days ~ 35 Km/day

A soft hybrid- kit for ic-engine car to ic/electric car conversion with 100 Km range ( later Option : up to 500 Km)
                                 2013 !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Frp-online.de%2Fnrw%2Fstaedte%2Fduisburg%2Fein-visionaer-mit-pechstraehne_aid-15120225 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Frp-online.de%2Fnrw%2Fstaedte%2Fduisburg%2Fein-visionaer-mit-pechstraehne_aid-15120225)
Advantage : no GHG-emission during electric drive ( City clean air act!)

How much nominal cinetic power needs an hybrid electric drive. ?
Following this" ic-engine car to electric car conversion"  :  1,5 KW nominal AC motor(4000 RPM) to mechanic torque                                                               FOR USE AS CITY CAR                     

                without anymore the ic- engine and parts weigt : up to 120 Km/h velocity !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1#)

With ic-engine the electric motor nominal power/torque (Nm).need ?

ZERO EMISSION CITY DRIVE is easy to reach !
Car-share with converted used "hybrid-kit cars"  !?
So also in estates with 200 cars/sqkm density 1/1000 Land area for fuel bio-crop becomes sufficient  !

The worldwide new "zero City emission car" price challenge : 5000 Euros
based by Renault Kwid basic costs and estimated 1500 Euros for the Manfred Sonntag " hybrid kit"
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRenault_Kwid (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRenault_Kwid)
Okay, after " Security"-improvements : 0-3 stars from 5 is actually not enough. !

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fecomento.de%2F2019%2F07%2F11%2Fe-go-mobile-gruender-schuh-der-kunde-will-keine-elektroautos%2F
But when we get "zero GHG emission" for cities = no combustion,what is the solution for the car user if not hybrid  ?

Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on September 05, 2019, 11:58:13 AM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1#)
car weight without ic-engine ?
1,5 KW nominal AC electric motor and  ??? up to 120 Km/ speed ?
For comparison :
700 Kg new electric car,  3,5 KW nominal electric motor, 30-50 Km/h speed  !

https://hkshinepeak.en.made-in-china.com/product/gSPmIbnvOipu/China-New-Energy-Sightseeing-Bus-Adult-Electric-Car-Electric-Car-Oil-Electric-Car-Four-Car-SUV-Electric-Vehicles-Town-Electric-Car.html (https://hkshinepeak.en.made-in-china.com/product/gSPmIbnvOipu/China-New-Energy-Sightseeing-Bus-Adult-Electric-Car-Electric-Car-Oil-Electric-Car-Four-Car-SUV-Electric-Vehicles-Town-Electric-Car.html)
This street legal Chinese electric car can be the base for

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1#)
" 1000 Watt electric consume per hour and 117 Km/h " as numeric drive information

experiments  !

Minimum velocity for highway drive : 50 Km/h and average  100 Km/h so reachable !

Porquer + 4 x e-power saving motors + Tanaka Saburo static gen-set : 2000 Euros drive system price

Instead T.Saburo static gen-set :

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en)

or https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#)

or https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5#)
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"FORMULA 1 KWH " 4-seater World competition/challenge : AUTODROME ESTORIL/PT

On-board 1 KWh battery or capacitor capacity : how long the drive range with which average velocity. ?

TARGET : 1 KWh :1000 Kilometers and more by 100 Km/h average velocity = 10 h +
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on September 10, 2019, 09:30:55 PM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1#)
car weight without ic-engine ?
1,5 KW nominal AC electric motor and  ??? up to 120 Km/ speed ?

For comparison :


3000 Watt AC electric motor, up to 50 Km/ h speed  !

https://m.german.alibaba.com/p-detail/City-use-4-wheel-new-solar-60732955155.html?spm=a2706.8168334.1998817009.15.4ca54e19ElRFrV

700 Kg New electric car, 3,5 KW nominal electric Motor, 30-50 Km/h speed  !

https://hkshinepeak.en.made-in-china.com/product/gSPmIbnvOipu/China-New-Energy-Sightseeing-Bus-Adult-Electric-Car-Electric-Car-Oil-Electric-Car-Four-Car-SUV-Electric-Vehicles-Town-Electric-Car.html (https://hkshinepeak.en.made-in-china.com/product/gSPmIbnvOipu/China-New-Energy-Sightseeing-Bus-Adult-Electric-Car-Electric-Car-Oil-Electric-Car-Four-Car-SUV-Electric-Vehicles-Town-Electric-Car.html)
This street legal Chinese electric car can be the base for

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1#)
" 1000 Watt electric consume per hour and 117 Km/h " as numeric drive information

experiments  !

Minimum velocity for highway drive : 50 Km/h and average  100 Km/h so reachable !

Porquer + 4 x e-power saving motors + Tanaka Saburo static gen-set : 2000 Euros drive system price

Instead T.Saburo static gen-set :

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en)

or https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#)

or https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5#)
           ------------------------------------------------------

"FORMULA 1 KWH " 4-seater World competition/challenge : AUTODROME ESTORIL/PT

On-board 1 KWh battery or capacitor capacity : how long the drive range with which average velocity. ?

TARGET : 1 KWh :1000 Kilometers and more by 100 Km/h average velocity = 10 h +
Title: Re: car energy consume improvements
Post by: lancaIV on September 12, 2019, 08:54:44 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FE-Autos-sind-auf-laengere-Sicht-unschlagbar-article21265337.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FE-Autos-sind-auf-laengere-Sicht-unschlagbar-article21265337.html)
They are right  !
When 3 -3,5 KW AC electric Motor cars reach up to 50 Km/ h average speed
with Porquer 4x 500 Watt electric Motor transmission which aequivalence a 50 horse-power ic-engine
and these 4 electric motors are build by Aminzko electric motor design with 400%  Nm/electric wattin power ratio

in relation to conventional electric motors
then electric cars are in price : Porquer transmission 400 Euros + 4 x 112,5 Euros Aminzko electric 500 Watt motors without concurrence. !
1 KWh battery capacity sufficient  !
As "Zero energy car " + 400 Euros Saburo inverter gen-set
+ Zero energy electric boat
+ Zero energy electric Drone, Intercontinental fly