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Title: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on June 29, 2016, 01:16:00 PM
During a recent patent search for free energy related microwave inventions I have stumbled across a patent, which is quite thought provoking, and perhaps some researchers on this forum may be interested to take a look at it. It is the United States Patent 8653903, titled: “Passive Amplifier” Publication Date: 02/18/2014, which will be attached to this post.

According to the inventors Kenneth J. Schlager and Jason Zehrung, the device is a passive circuit composed exclusively of resistors, capacitors, and inductors, employing a positive feedback. The circuit was originally developed to serve as a low noise passive amplifier for radio- and microwave frequencies, but they have allegedly also tested it at low frequencies of 60 Hz as well, with success.

If they would claim that it amplifies power in a passive way (which means it generates excess free energy) at microwave frequencies only, then I would get curious and examine it in detail. But they have gone too far by claiming that this circuit can generate free energy even at 60Hz, which would mean, that you could just plug it into the power outlet and connect your electrical appliances to the amplifier output. Then voila! You have the simplest, cheapest, and most efficient free energy generator in the world for a few bucks that every technically minded person could build at home from off-the-shelf components. Doesn’t this sound too good to be true? Well, it does to me.

If I am so skeptical about it, then why post it here at all? Well, because it is an excellent demonstration of the disinformation campaign perpetuated in the field of free energy by the energy cartel. They do everything they can to confuse free energy researchers (and people in general) by approving patents for alleged free energy devices, which don’t generate free energy in reality (like this one); while denying patents to devices that really generate excess energy in practice (like the invention of Janos Vajda). Then they spread hoax free energy inventions on forums, to lead the interested researchers into blind alleys, and in round circles, never arriving to success; away from any real free energy principle, which could really work in practice.

How do I know that this can not work at low frequencies? First of all, please note that the inventors did not even touch the subject about which principle generates excess energy in their circuit. Then note that the science of electronics (and its computerized simulations) of these passive components is advanced enough to know, that at low frequencies there is no way to amplify power and generate excess energy with such passive circuits. If you don’t believe me, then try it!

Why would I be inclined to check for any excess power at high frequencies? Because at high frequencies power is not conducted in the same way like at low frequencies. At low frequencies all linear components affect each other quasi-instantaneously in real time, and the reciprocal coupling between the components prevents the generation of any excess energy. At high frequencies the wave length is small enough that the power propagates in the circuit as a wave, and therefore the laws of wave propagation dominate. One of these laws is the law of superposition, which does not only allow the generation of free energy, but it also guarantees this to happen in properly designed circuits. I will write about this subject more in another thread that I will start now about free energy from wave fields.

So this patent is posted here as a contrast to the patent application of Janos Vajda which has been denied. The patent application of Mr. Vajda will be discussed in more detail in the mentioned other thread.

Despite my skeptical opinion, if anybody is interested to test this extremely simple circuit in a computer simulator or build it in practice, it will be interesting to see the results. Here are some excerpts from the patent below.

Zoltan Losonc



Abstract:
A passive amplifier for use with enhanced power supplies, signal preamplifiers and power amplifiers in communications systems particularly in mobile phones, laptop computers and other battery-powered and battery-limited devices. The passive amplifier can be used as an attachment to electric appliances or other power consuming equipment to significantly reduce the electric power requirements of such equipment. These passive amplifiers do not require an outside source of power and can be used to elevate battery power outputs and serve as either low noise signal preamplifiers or transmit power amplifiers for higher performance and extended battery life. Passive amplifier technology is either electromagnetic or dielectric in nature with component parts limited to inductive, capacitive and resistive components. Dielectric amplifier prototypes have gain values in the range of the 10 dB level so as to be useful in communications applications and power amplification.

BACKGROUND

Although the low power usage amplifier was initially proposed for communications applications as described above, a second major market exists in the electric power (energy) saving market. The same passive dielectric amplifier may be designed for operation in the 60 Hz frequency band and used to save energy through attachment to electric power consuming appliances, such as refrigerators, electric heaters and lighting fixtures. In an embodiment of an amplifier with demonstrated power gains of 4 to 1, a 500 watt appliance with an attached passive dielectric amplifier would consume only 125 watts.

SUMMARY

The present disclosure relates to passive amplifiers for application as energy saving power supplies, signal preamplifiers and power amplifiers in communications systems particularly in mobile phones, laptop computers and other battery-powered and battery-limited devices. The passive amplifiers also have application as an energy saving attachment to an electric appliance. These passive amplifiers do not require an outside source of power and can be used to elevate battery power outputs and serve as either low noise signal preamplifiers or transmit power amplifiers for higher performance and extended battery life.

Passive amplifier technology as proposed here is either electromagnetic or dielectric in nature with component parts limited to inductive, capacitive and resistive components. Dielectric passive amplifiers are particularly desirable because of their easier extension to higher frequency RF and microwave communications and their potential for miniaturization. The basic dielectric amplifier technology has been proven theoretically and by simulation and bench experimentation. The dielectric amplifier prototypes developed in accordance with the present disclosure are able to increase the gain of the amplifier to at least the 10 dB level so as to be useful in communications applications.

Currently, the basic dielectric amplifier function of the disclosure has been verified theoretically and by follow-on simulation and bench experimentation. Single stage prototypes were designed, constructed and tested at 60 Hz and 100 kHz. Simulation studies have been carried out at 100 kHz, 915 MHz and 2.4 GHz. Paper designs have been completed up to 5.8 GHz. In each case, the dielectric amplifier has demonstrated significant power gain without the need for an outside power source. The only requirement is an input signal in communications applications or a lower power input in electric appliance applications.

Various other features, objects and advantages of the invention will be made apparent from the following description taken together with the drawings.

 
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on June 29, 2016, 01:31:20 PM
The same passive dielectric amplifier may be designed for operation in the 60 Hz frequency band and used to save energy through attachment to electric power consuming appliances, such as refrigerators, electric heaters and lighting fixtures. In an embodiment of an amplifier with demonstrated power gains of 4 to 1, a 500 watt appliance with an attached passive dielectric amplifier would consume only 125 watts.


Really interestant ! Also for body e-cooling/warming clothes !

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20120524&CC=WO&NR=2012065719A2&KC=A2 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20120524&CC=WO&NR=2012065719A2&KC=A2)


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19941018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19941018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
By way of example, an input signal of 6 microwatts with a bandwidth of 1 gigahertz is applied to diode 20 either as thermal energy or electric energy, and thermal energy is applied to diode 10. A signal-to-noise ration of 60 dB is obtained for the input signal for a temperature Tc of the cold diode 20 of 300 DEG K. For a temperature Tr of hot electrons in diode 10 of 6000 DEG K., the amplification of the input signal is 26 dB, which gives an output signal of 2.4 milliwatts. The amplified output signal also has a 60 dB signal-to-noise ratio.

the conversion process,amplifying effect: 6  microwatts to 2,4 milliwatts


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DD&NR=287597A5&KC=A5&FT=D&ND=3&date=19910228&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


Probably in future there will be an heat-electric cycle in each home installed -off grid/intra-grid- based.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: Gothic on June 29, 2016, 08:15:16 PM
If I am so skeptical about it, then why post it here at all? Well, because it is an excellent demonstration of the disinformation campaign perpetuated in the field of free energy by the energy cartel. They do everything they can to confuse free energy researchers (and people in general) by approving patents for alleged free energy devices, which don’t generate free energy in reality (like this one); while denying patents to devices that really generate excess energy in practice (like the invention of Janos Vajda). Then they spread hoax free energy inventions on forums, to lead the interested researchers into blind alleys, and in round circles, never arriving to success; away from any real free energy principle, which could really work in practice.

And your here to save us from ourselves?

patent attorneys search the claims of the applied patent against previous
 claims from other patents and decide if the claims don,t infringe...
 It can take up to five years to get one plus numerous fees.

Usually if someone has a product they wish to produce while maintaining
 a measure of protection they will pay a fee and file Patent Pending.
 this type of person has something that works and wants to get the item
 to market asap...

You can file a patent on almost anything, they look at, you pay and as long as
 it is unique or a previous claim has expired it,s yours, working or not...

an example is this patent

 US20030209636 BOBBIN ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD PROPULSION VEHICLE

Inventor: John Quincy St.Clair, San Juan, PR
Correspondence Address:
John St.Clair
Hyperspace Research Institute
52 Kings Court, 4A
San Juan, PR 00911 (US)
Appl. No.: 10/142,583
Filed: May 9, 2002
Publication Classi?cation

ABSTRACT
This invention relates to a spacecraft Which generates its
oWn magnetic moment and magnetic ?eld gradient in order
to produce lift on the hull. The magnetic moment is gener
ated by a large area solenoid located in the hull. A toroidal
core Wrapped With electrical bobbins at intervals along said
core produces a traveling magnetic Wave along its surface.
This magnetic Wave creates a spacetime curvature, similar to
a tilted plate, Which causes the formation of a magnetic ?eld
gradient. PoWer is not critical because the system uses a
magnetic vortex Wormhole generator to loWer the speed of
light in order to efficiently create highly relativistic ?elds
due to LorentZ transformation.

Now do you believe this guy has a wormhole generator...

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-patent-process.html
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on June 30, 2016, 01:22:57 PM
Nice finds lancaIV, it could be worth taking a deeper look at these heat converting patents, if I would have time for that. Perhaps someone else will take the challenge.

Did you test any of these ideas and devices whether they really generate excess energy, or just efficiently convert heat into electricity? When the refrigerator was invented, people thought about that also, that it was a free energy generator, because the heat pump produced more output power than the required electrical input.

These inventions could slip through the patenting process either because they don't generate any real excess energy, or if they do, then it is not significant enough to threaten the interests of the energy cartel. The invention of Mr. Vajda could not get the patent, because that would have turned the present status quo of the energy industry upside down. He sued the patent office, and lost the case. He even had the balls to persevere and appeal to the Supreme Court to obtain justice, and get his patent, but as you would expect, it did not succeed. The real great FE players don't get any patent, no matter how well they present the invention, how much money they have for the process, or whatever they do.

The patent system has been established by the elite to serve their own interests, not that of the public. They just create a false appearance that its all there to serve the little people, to prevent opposition and rebellion.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on June 30, 2016, 01:41:28 PM
Hello ZL,
no ! I never did realized a prototype based by the offered Yater,Reichelt publikations !
My interest has been and is the electromagnetic spectrum and the possibilities,macro and nano-universal !


http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/GraneauEditorial94.pdf (http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/GraneauEditorial94.pdf) about "inner energy",distance/time related and the observations !
also really inspiring:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140917&CC=CN&NR=104047814A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140917&CC=CN&NR=104047814A&KC=A)
To demonstrate the ratio between kinetic energy and internal energy we calculate these energies for a relatively strong wind of 25 meter/second (the maximum operable wind speed of the V80 2 Megawatt wind-turbine) having a temperature of T= 32<0>F, which is quite cold air in the populated northern hemisphere in the winter, where such air turbines are popular-
Using the British Unit System Cp=6000 FT x LB/Slug <0>R T= 460+32 =492[deg.]R V= 25/0.3048= 82.02 FT/SEC
The internal energy is: Cp T= 6000 x 492=2,952,000 FT x LB/Slug The kinetic energy is: V<2>/2= (82.02)<2>/2=3,201.6 FT x LB/Slug
Therefore the ratio between the air kinetic energy to the air internal energy in this case is: 3,201.6/2,952,000= 0.00108, i.e., the kinetic energy is about one thousandth of the air internal energy and this case is for the maximum operable air speed for the sophisticated 2 MW air turbine. Weaker winds yield even smaller energy ratios.

Since 2008 I am in contact with the slovacian physician Dr.Pavel Imris,Csc. ,working out the potential from electromagnetism !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=pavel+imris&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=pavel+imris&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
One of his last trials:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20150618&CC=DE&NR=102013021483A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20150618&CC=DE&NR=102013021483A1&KC=A1)
[0022] Zum Beispiel, in Reihe 3 sind 140 V Spannung und 6,66 Ampere Blindstrom. Bei 50 Hz Frequenz ist die Blindleistung 935 VA und die abgegebene Wirkleistung ist 850 W. Die aufgenommene Wirkleistung in den kapazitiven Wicklungen 3 , 25 , 26 ist24,31 W.
                                                               out: 850W in: 24,31W


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20091130&CC=PT&NR=104078A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20091130&CC=PT&NR=104078A&KC=A)
english:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20091223&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=WO&NR=2009154492A2&KC=A2&ND=4&pageNumber=2 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20091223&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=WO&NR=2009154492A2&KC=A2&ND=4&pageNumber=2)
From the description you will see that the application is against the written laws ,consequence: new conditioning from the laws !
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: gsmsslsb on June 30, 2016, 11:23:32 PM
Lanca IV are you in contact with the Dr Pavel Imris that holds Patent for the Optical Electrostatic Generator.
US Patent # 3,781,601 Canadian Patent # 951836[/size]
Optical Generator of an Electrostatic Field having Longitudinal Oscillations at Light Frequencies for Use in an Electrical Circuit[/size]
7-23-1974[/size]
Pavel IMRIS[/size]
This is one of the projects I have thought of trying for a long time. I wasn't sure if he was still alive.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: Gothic on July 01, 2016, 02:01:34 AM
The patent system has been established by the elite to serve their own interests, not that of the public. They just create a false appearance that its all there to serve the little people, to prevent opposition and rebellion.

Here is a patent for the M.E.G  https://www.google.com/patents/US6362718 (https://www.google.com/patents/US6362718)      Are you saying Tom Beardon is a gov shill?

http://www.realclearscience.com/lists/3_methods_of_mind_control/ (http://www.realclearscience.com/lists/3_methods_of_mind_control/)
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on July 01, 2016, 10:12:52 AM
Gothic,

I did not build the MEG, and the proper approach is not to give a debunking judgment about an alleged FE device, unless one has thoroughly studied, analyzed, and even better, built the device in question. Except, of course, if the hoax is as trivial as that of Keshe and Kapanadze, where one can immediately recognize all the hallmarks of deception.

Did you build the MEG yourself?

The acquisition of true information about FE can be expensive, and time consuming. I have built some devices after patents that claimed to produce FE, and reaction less trust, and they proved to be hoaxes. The MEG was not one of them, because I did not find it convincing enough to invest my time into its thorough examination.

Right now I am not interested in replicating such patents, because I have found something that is guaranteed to work. The theory has been meticulously and specklessly worked out, and practical measurements also prove it.

If you are convinced that the MEG really produces 5 times more energy than what it consumes (as claimed), why don’t you build it, and make a positive feedback to the input, and run it in self sustaining mode without any input power, while it powers a resistive load. No input power, but still power is dissipated on the resistive output load which is heated in a measurable way (temperature rises). No need for oscilloscopes to calculate the input and output powers. Just simply measure the temperature rise of the output resistor, and perhaps the current that goes through it. If you do that, then I will be all eyes and ears to check it out.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: Berto3 on July 01, 2016, 02:24:15 PM
Well said ZL. We are a community who believes in more efficiency of existing technology and thereby save on energy. That energy is for free. I agree that FE claims outside this field need at least a extensive investigation the way you describe. No patents or experts on FE are trustworthy before they (or others) show in clear measurements their claim.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on July 01, 2016, 08:22:39 PM
Berto3 wrote:
Quote
„No patents or experts on FE are trustworthy before they (or others) show in clear measurements their claim.”

Or alternatively, they should at least prove mathematically (using the established and proven laws of electromagnetic theory) that the main principle of operation of their invention, really generates excess energy even in theory (and how and why it does that). Mr. Vajda did this as well. You can download his paper for free and try to find error in it. There is no error in it!

Now that Gothic and you have picked the subject, I can not resist to add some more “inside” information to the comment about Bearden and his MEG in my last post. Generally I am trying to limit my criticism of FE “pop stars” and perceived “authority” figures on public forums, because I don’t want to get banned for this reason (well, at least not yet). I have more important task to do here, so it is better to focus on what I have to offer, instead of debunking the artificially created fake “idols” and fake “authority figures”.

Since I don’t know yet how far can I go in this direction on this forum, I gave an evasive answer about the subject of MEG. But in hindsight I realized that by doing so, and not presenting the complete negative truth, just perpetuates the confusion and ignorance that is being deliberately spread in FE communities. Therefore I have edited my last post, read it again.

The MEG is so simple, not very expensive, does not require much expertise in electronics to make it, and its inventor promises a COP of 5; which is so huge, that it should be a piece of cake to make it self-sustaining, and power your house with it. No heating bills ever again! If it is so attractive, then how can it be that I did not build it? Because I am a newbie? Well, on this forum it says “newbie” under my user name, but that is only because I joined this forum only recently, and not very active with posting. But otherwise I have been involved in FE research since about 1985 when I have met a German guy who had two fingers missing, because it was cut off by an exploding N generator.

The main reason for me not following Bearden, is his background, which is highly suspicious. A  „retired Lieutenant Colonel of the U.S. Army”, hmmm, this just smells like paid, controlled opposition to me. Not to mention three letter agencies of USA… Also check out the extensive highly questionable literature and inventions he has created! Do you really think he alone has done all that (without getting paid to do so)? And the enormous personality and authority cult they have built around him. Do you really think all that came about spontaneously, without big money pumping it artificially? Ahhem, I don’t believe in fairy tales…

Their strategy is not too complicated: infiltrate the FE movement, establish your own puppet “authority” figures with intense advertisement, and mislead the herd into blind alleys. Channel their investments into waste bins, and make them fail over and over again by replicating the disinfo garbage “FE inventions” which should flood the internet. They should be so numerous, that the few real FE inventions should be lost in the heap of garbage, unrecognizable. This will lead the herd to utter frustration, and finally tired out and broke, they will become either idle passive watchers of the FE news, or just quit the research completely. Discredit the concept of FE by creating FE fads like Kapanadze, Keshe etc. and finally by busting them as hoaxes. Then people will finally associate all FE inventions with hoaxes, saying “… nahh! Here is another hoax, from another crackpot. Just ignore it!”  And of course, the most important of all is to ignore and suppress the real guys, who invent real FE generators and/or spread the science about it. This is what has happened to Janos and me.

About the MEG: the electric current that gives usable power is induced in the conductors by the magnetic flux change. A permanent magnet provides a constant flux which can not induce current unless it is mechanically moved. In this case it is stationary, therefore it can not generate power. The only flux change through the output coils is generated by the input coils, therefore it is noting more than a fancy common transformer, which is not an FE generator. The presence of the permanent magnet can not generate excess power, no matter how fancy and convincing is the associated explanation of flux manipulation.

This is another reason why I have never spent time on its thorough investigation. But you don’t have to listen to my superficial opinion, since I have indeed not built the thing, so what do I know... Better you listen to the experience of those who have built it, and found it to be a hoax. Here are few links (but there is more literature about this on the net if you dig deep enough):

http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_phact.org/z/bearden.htm
https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Thomas_E._Bearden
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Bearden

Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: Berto3 on July 01, 2016, 10:29:42 PM
Zl, thanks for your insights and presumptions. This and other OU or FE forums let me think at Becketts play:"Waiting for Godot". Comments at this forum could be the lines of that play for this time. While waiting for the messias bringing "endless" energy we  waste or time and attention in a treadmill between hope and hoax.
This OU site is running for years now and I have to be honest; I am hooked at the 'waiting talks'.
Solar energy is today obtainable for many. Going off-grid is no problem. Solar cell's are becoming high efficient. The conventional energy suppliers are losing market share. There is one but.... when there is no sunlight (or wind) there is no 'free' energy to gain.
The holy grail will be an OU apparatus, giving always and everywhere abundance of energy. My estimation is that there are no signs this will be soon. Maybe someone finds an exotic source delivering a surplus. Thinking that only machines based on electromagnetic induction will be that free energy source is, after all this years 'waiting', highly doubtful.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: Gothic on July 02, 2016, 01:34:07 AM
This will lead the herd to utter frustration, and finally tired out and broke, they will become either idle passive watchers of the FE news, or just quit the research completely.

http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_phact.org/z/bearden.htm (http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_phact.org/z/bearden.htm)
https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Thomas_E._Bearden (https://www.psiram.com/en/index.php/Thomas_E._Bearden)
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Bearden (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Bearden)

I can relate to that...

You are very articulate with the written word, thorough, well thought out and I can see the passion you have on this subject.
 I would say you are sincere. Thanks for the insightful response, You have my attention...

Thanks for the links ;)
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on July 02, 2016, 12:14:31 PM
Lanca IV are you in contact with the Dr Pavel Imris that holds Patent for the Optical Electrostatic Generator.
US Patent # 3,781,601 Canadian Patent # 951836[/size]
Optical Generator of an Electrostatic Field having Longitudinal Oscillations at Light Frequencies for Use in an Electrical Circuit[/size]
7-23-1974[/size]
Pavel IMRIS[/size]
This is one of the projects I have thought of trying for a long time. I wasn't sure if he was still alive.


I am sometimes in contact with Dr. Pavel Imris,who is living in Germany,Hassleben/Brandenburg.


How you can read and see Dr.Pavel Imris has been the inventor but never hold the patent,applicant and rights holder "Ecocontrol" !

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=3781601A&KC=A&FT=D


After 20 years,beginning with the priority day date, each awarded claims right expires !
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on July 02, 2016, 12:20:19 PM
About applied electro-magnetism: https://web.archive.org/web/20060617154351/http://flynnresearch.net/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20060617154351/http://flynnresearch.net/)
About the M.E.G.:
https://web.archive.org/web/20051018154635/http://www.flynnresearch.net/parallel_path_magnetics_vs__similar_devices.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20051018154635/http://www.flynnresearch.net/parallel_path_magnetics_vs__similar_devices.htm)

http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/magnetictechnology.htm (http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/magnetictechnology.htm)       figure 4, the simple flux experiment !

An invention from Keiichiro Asaoka similar to the M.E.G.,probably some details about the function principle:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=25&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20030314&CC=JP&NR=2003079128A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=25&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20030314&CC=JP&NR=2003079128A&KC=A)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19680206&CC=US&NR=3368141A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19680206&CC=US&NR=3368141A&KC=A)


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A)
 It was observed that the power level required was no more than 1/40 of that of the embodiment without a permanent magnet 1, depending on the test condition.
In a static magnet dynamo involved in this invention, therefore, Win2 can be made sufficiently smaller than Wp, so that the inventor considers it possible to make Wp/Win2 >1.


The question here ist the efficiency from a conventional transformator with an open air gap !?


The easiest kind for experiments :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=26&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20030110&CC=JP&NR=2003009558A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=26&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20030110&CC=JP&NR=2003009558A&KC=A)


Instead one permanent magnet a magnet array ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1)

The present disclosure relates generally to an apparatus, system and method for conserving energy in electromagnetic circuits that may include an inductor, motor, generator, and capacitor or condenser.
                                                                   And applying on transformer ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=7411363B2&KC=B2&FT=D&ND=4&date=20080812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=7411363B2&KC=B2&FT=D&ND=4&date=20080812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: gsmsslsb on July 04, 2016, 01:04:31 AM

I am sometimes in contact with Dr. Pavel Imris,who is living in Germany,Hassleben/Brandenburg.


How you can read and see Dr.Pavel Imris has been the inventor but never hold the patent,applicant and rights holder "Ecocontrol" !

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=3781601A&KC=A&FT=D (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=3781601A&KC=A&FT=D)


After 20 years,beginning with the priority day date, each awarded claims right expires !


The Date on the patent is 25-December-1973 so it should have Long expired by now.
This makes me Keener to give it a go.
Lanca IV I sent you a PM.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on July 04, 2016, 09:35:18 AM
Why we did not get by the inventors and media some promotion about this "Power Amplifier" invention :

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/jsonline/obituary.aspx?pid=160504829
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on July 04, 2016, 12:34:27 PM
lancaIV,

I don't see any power amplifier at your link. That is an obituary, which mentions the invention of "passive magnetic and dielectric amplifiers". There are countless passive amplifiers, one of them is the transformer. It amplifies either current or voltage if desired, but it is not a power amplifier. A passive amplifier does not mean it is a passive power amplifier.

You have also listed many patents, but giving no thorough explanation about why you are listing them. What is good in them and what is bad. My German is a bit rusty after decades of not using it, so I will not venture to read them. Did any of your listed patents contain an explicit claim that it produces excess power or energy?

There is a widespread misconception among the FE researchers, who think that it is a wise thing to patent an FE device by simply not claiming that it produces free energy, and hoping that this way it will slip under the radar. They think that once the device is patented, no one else can patent the same again, and forbid everyone else to use it.

It can slip through the system of censorship this way, sure. But if the inventor does not claims explicitly that it produces more output power than what it consumes, and that one of the purposes of the invention is exactly the generation of excess energy; then anybody can patent the same device again for this specific purpose, of generating excess energy. Then he can simply lock it away and forbid everyone else to use that device in mass production for generating excess energy. Therefore such a tactic is useless for protecting an FE invention, if one intends to use it as an FE generator.

The judges also asked Mr. Vajda, to please remove the explicit claim from the patent application, that it generates excess energy, and that it violates the law of energy conservation. Then they would have considered to grant him the patent. But Janos told them that if he removes this claim from his patent, then what is the purpose of the device? What is the practical usefulness of the invention? And he was completely right, one should not be shy and afraid to say that "the king is naked" if he is indeed naked.

If the purpose of a patent is only to claim priority for the invention, and offer a channel of accessibility via the patent registry, then is is also good enough to just have a patent application. It is better to have a denied patent application, which claims the truth about excess energy, than having a granted patent about an FE generator which does not claim to produce FE.

Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on July 04, 2016, 01:10:38 PM
ZL, United States Patent 8653903 , invented and applied 2012 by  ..... ?
Compare : http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/jsonline/obituary.aspx?pid=160504829 (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/jsonline/obituary.aspx?pid=160504829)


"You have also listed many patents, but giving no thorough explanation about why you are listing them. What is good in them and what is bad. My German is a bit rusty after decades of not using it, so I will not venture to read them. Did any of your listed patents contain an explicit claim that it produces excess power or energy?"

Probably there is a FE device device ,developed by Dr.Pavel Imris,ready to demonstration,
translated the application description and an example value,  from german to english:
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102013021483&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.1&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102013021483&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.1&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en)


For example, in row 3 140 V voltage and 6.66 amperes reactive current. At 50 Hz frequency, the reactive power 935 VA and the active power is 850 W. The effective power in the capacitive windings 3, 25, 26 is 24.31 W. All other rows in Table 1 demonstrate the physical and technical function of the invention further , The experimental data in Table 1 illustrate the relationship between the energy used (column g), and the output energy (column f) in the present electrical generator. In technical terms, which is a ratio of energy output to energy input, also called efficiency. The power of the generator according to the invention are professionals in today's state of the art more opposite than skeptical. It is important to know that the physical and CONSULT TECHNICAL feature of this generator is part of a discovery in the field mass-energy relationship. The delivered electrical energy, as documented in Table 1, is one of forms of energy that are not yet known and for many no power size is defined yet, but they are there, really exist and are economically viable for all mankind.

The economic advantages of the invention described herein are readily detectable for any expert. The use of this electric generator is everywhere in business, where electric power is needed. Finally, this energy is clean, does not pollute the environment and it is cheap.




ZL,about your concernings FE and overunity-limit related there is the solution to not applying a patent but only to apply the device as utility model,the disadvantage is the shorter validation of the claims ! But utility models does not get patent office peer-examination !




An offer from patentauction.com ,from Russia :
https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11451 (https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11451)
https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462 (https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462)
Created electromagnetic resonance device operating on the principle. Industrial development of serial production will not require any special materials or equipment. Cost of it will be available within each. Now there is a working model that consumes 300 watts of power voltage of 220 volts, increasing it feeds the load capacity of 3000 watts. It can easily be checked at any time. We are ready to sell the technology. Write [Use the button below to contact me] bkb gj ntk +79081285589


Probably a kind of Ankvich-amplifier.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on July 04, 2016, 02:55:36 PM
ZL, United States Patent 8653903 , invented and applied 2012 by  ..... ?
Compare : http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/jsonline/obituary.aspx?pid=160504829 (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/jsonline/obituary.aspx?pid=160504829)

OK, I got your point now. The man in the obituary is one of the inventors of the patent, which is the subject of this thread. Are you convinced that his invention generates FE as described in his patent? Are you willing to test it, either in computer simulation or by building a prototype?

Did you, or anyone you trust has replicated the cited device of Dr Imris? If yes, then did it really generate excess energy as claimed?

There is no shortage of patents, and non patented inventions which promise excess energy generation, either explicitly or implicitly. I have got also a big pile of such material printed on paper, and gigabytes in digital format. Most of them are practically useless in reality; they don't generate any significant quantity of FE (if any at all).

What is rare to find, and sorely missing is reliable and trustworthy proof that these really generate FE, in the form of mathematical proof, or even better as independent replications from honest people, who are not the undercover agents of the energy cartel. Before anybody suggests the site of Naudin (and his ilk), who claims to do just that; just take a look at his MEG replication pages, and then read the comments of honest people about that replication at the link already posted, but here it is again:

http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_phact.org/z/bearden.htm

These comments were made in 2003, and some of the commentators have also warned Naudin about the mistake in his measurement setup. Now it is 2016 and after 13 years did Naudin correct the mistake, and announce the MEG to be fraud? No! So then what does this mean? Should I spell it out? I think it is not necessary...
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: Berto3 on July 04, 2016, 04:39:08 PM
For example this comment:

Matthew Zenkar  wrote:
> It would seem that there is no disagreement that Naudin's claim of
> veryifing the MEG is questionable at best, and some find Naudin's
> procedure outright incorrect.

Absolutely. I looked at his stuff a while ago, fully expecting to spend a lot of time searching for something really subtle. So I felt a little cheated when I quickly found a blatant, really elementary error.

To measure the output current of his MEG, he used a 10 ohm shunt resistor. To this he connected an oscilloscope set to display current with a a scale factor of 1000 mA per volt. This gave him current (and output power) readings that were about 10x too high! When you correct for this error, it quickly becomes clear that MEG is a simple transformer operating well below unity. Nothing unusual is happening here.

Naudin actually conceded that he sensed something was wrong with his measurements, as his computed output power was greatly in excess of what his resistive load could safely handle. Yet instead of checking his technique, he simply handwaved the discrepancy away by saying that the excess power must be leaving as electromagnetic radiation! Incredible.

I've gotten myself effectively banned from two MEG-related Yahoo groups, intalek and MEG_builders, by pointing out these mistakes in Naudin's work. Those guys are not at all interested in the truth; theirs is a church, not a scientific research group. Bearden is God, Naudin is the Son of God, and no heresy will be tolerated on pain of excommunication and banishment.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on July 04, 2016, 05:11:21 PM
"Are you convinced that his invention generates FE as described in his patent?  "             Yes !
"Are you willing to test it, either in computer simulation or by building a prototype? "        Actually : No !


The patent US8653903 describes a magnetic amplifier concept and this 300% gain only reachable with a cascading step up gain array !
Prior development: http://www.google.com/patents/US7528795 (http://www.google.com/patents/US7528795)




"Did you, or anyone you trust has replicated the cited device of Dr Imris? "
Not this device but based the capacitive winding there has been two projects here in Portugal,one with Dr.Imris as contractual partner.


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The JL Naudin Lab has been one of the first "open source" ideas research and examination organ which delivered details about prototyping
and technical effects of these devices !
There is and was ever the possibility to give better advices or corrections about trial errors !


Research & Development needs time and financial sources and mental concentration and this is often the only limit to get the wished results !
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ALVARO_CS on July 04, 2016, 07:13:32 PM
hey lancaIV
have you got any reference to those "capacitive windings" ? (apart the tesla bifilar coil)
very interested, would appreciate your input on this matter
cheers
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on July 05, 2016, 07:49:37 AM
The JL Naudin Lab has been one of the first "open source" ideas research and examination organ which delivered details about prototyping and technical effects of these devices !
There is and was ever the possibility to give better advices or corrections about trial errors !

Research & Development needs time and financial sources and mental concentration and this is often the only limit to get the wished results !

These sentences of yours, all ending with exclamation marks, show that you are passionately trying to hide the truth, and defend Naudin. But there is a language barrier between us, because I don't seem to clearly understand, exactly what you mean to say. Therefore lets clarify your standpoint on these subjects a bit.

Do you believe that the MEG generates FE as Bearden claimed?
Did you replicate the MEG and performed measurements on it? If yes, then with what results?
Do you believe that the MEG replication measurement of Naudin is correct?
Do you believe that those who criticized the MEG and its replication by Naudin (at the link I gave) are liars?
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on July 05, 2016, 10:31:11 AM
ZL, I wrote about the -JL Naudin Lab work and demonstrations 1997-2013 http://jnaudin.free.fr (http://jnaudin.free.fr)  -in geral and not especially MEG related !


A 2016 standpoint view and opinion is incorrect cause when Naudin began with his Net-Lab there has not been many sources to get
technical advice/help about FE devices/energy converter and replication (alternative : University institutes ) !


Without team work you will get nothing in our world !
Or can you -in personal union- do your own research and develop and fabricate and deliver your then -ready to use- device worldwide without the help of other ? And this all by your own finance ? Will you satisfy the 7 billions habitants energy demand ? Fast and save ?


Neither you nor the Forbes Top 500 list members can this !


I heared from an Ex-CS-consultant (for really rich-billionaers- bank clients) that some of these list members (who has been informated by him,he knowing them ) has been interested to get the here in Portugal developed results demonstrated,
this consultant has been present in a several hours demonstration using the -capacitive winding-device effect !


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              "My German is a bit rusty after decades of not using it, so I will not venture to read them.":

                         https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DD&NR=287597A5&KC=A5&FT=D&ND=3&date=19910228&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DD&NR=287597A5&KC=A5&FT=D&ND=3&date=19910228&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)


                      Up to 97% conversion (heat) wave-to-electric efficiency ,carbon/graphit cell,developed 1982 in the G.D.R. !
                                           Actually the Nantennas are in the 80% range,I think so !
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on July 05, 2016, 11:49:10 AM
lancaIV,

You did not answer any of my questions from my last post.
This post of yours is just adding more irrelevant excuses to those in your previous post.
The purpose of my questions is to dispel the fog created by such irrelevant excuses, and create clarity.

Please answer those questions, and then we can discuss further.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: Berto3 on July 05, 2016, 12:14:12 PM
ZL, there is mainly a monologue going on in this tread but also on the whole German OU website.
Alvaro, watch this tread for capacitive windings at the German OU website.
http://www.overunity.de/1486/kapazitiver-transformator/msg45138/#msg45138
Some links lead you further to explanations in english on this theme.
Capacitive windings and capacitive transformers are indeed very interesting.



Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on July 05, 2016, 12:33:22 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megjln01.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megjln01.htm)


experiment result : The power OUTPUT increase of 53.6% while the power INPUT increase of 0.35%when the magnet is added at one side of the ferrite rod...

experiment result: The power OUTPUT on a 100 ohms resistor is13.78mWwithout magnet
The power INPUT is 853.2mW without magnet.

experiment result: The power output on a 100 ohms resistor is 30.39mWwith the magnet
The power INPUT is 856.2mWwith the magnet

experiments and results do interest me and the repeatability and not names or titles.


And here the "Pseudo-M.E.G." output - as shown- is ever under input.           C.O.P. < 1

But one result is real ::)  : with magnets included there is a better result  ;D

http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megdsqth.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megdsqth.htm)
Writing about "cascading" : how treat the inrush current of each stage ?
                                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current)
When a transformer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer) is first energized, a transient current up to 10 to 15 times larger than the rated transformer current can flow for several cycles. Toroidal transformers, using less copper for the same power handling, can have up to 60 times inrush to running current.

                                            input frequency and output frequency of each device ?


                                                         End costs of each produced output-KWh ?


                                              Or using the "inrush current" as "puls(e) current" ? ;)
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on July 05, 2016, 01:21:35 PM
lancaIV,

You are still evading to answer my questions directly, which is a very bad sign.

Let me ask those questions again, with a bit modification to be more specific, not to give more room for further irrelevant evasions:

Do you believe that the MEG generates FE as Bearden claimed?
Did you replicate the MEG and performed measurements on it? If yes, then with what results?

Do you believe that the MEG replication measurement of Naudin on this webpage:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megv21.htm  is correct?
Do you believe that those who criticized the MEG and its replication by Naudin (which he described at the above link) are liars? The critiques I am talking about can be found here:

http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_phact.org/z/bearden.htm

Please direct answers only... I am not interested in any other real or imaginary merits of Naudin, or whether the magnet does anything in the MEG (according to him) or not, or any other evasions at this time. If you give direct and straight answers, then we can continue this discussion, otherwise an obvious disinfo operation is developing here right in front of our eyes...
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on July 05, 2016, 01:25:46 PM
ZL, there is mainly a monologue going on in this tread but also on the whole German OU website.

Would you care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: ZL on September 20, 2016, 11:47:44 AM
This is an update about the examination of the passive power amplifier patent US8653903.

As a warm up exercise for more fruitful work, the circuit has been tested in a computer simulator.
Using many circuit variations, component values, and swept frequencies, the patent circuit failed to produce any excess energy.

Now my initial knowledge-based prediction has been validated, and we can know for certain that this circuit is not a free energy generator as the inventor claimed. Naturally this is hardly a surprise or a disappointment, because it was expected. When a patent is granted to an invention that explicitly claims the generation of excess energy, then that is most probably a hoax perpetrated by the energy mafia to discredit the subject, and lure potential investors into traps.

Only the energy mafia is able to get patents granted to such fake FE inventions that explicitly claim excess energy, because they own and control the patent system. A real free energy invention that claims excess energy will not get any patent granted, as long as this mafia is in control of the system.

On the other hand if an invention that can generate excess energy gets a patent by not claiming the usefulness of the device for the generation of such excess energy, then the patent is of no use for FE purposes. Primarily because it does not claim that it is an FE machine, and those seeking such inventions will not find it. Secondly, it will not grant priority for inventing that device as an FE generator, because the patent protects only what is claimed.

For example if you invent and patent the wheel as useful in vehicle support, it will not grant you priority of discovery for other uses of the same wheel. That same wheel can be used as a flywheel on a spinning stationary machine to store rotational mechanical energy, and another person can patent it for that specific purpose, and he is to be considered the inventor of the flywheel, not you. Therefore patents and the patent system in general are completely useless for FE inventions as long as the energy mafia owns the system.

Quite often such hoax FE patents are created in a field that really can produce excess energy. They mimic a real FE device in a way which produces no excess energy, but looks similar to a device that can. This way the deception and confusion they create is the most potent.

The lesson from this exercise to take home is to realize that there is an active and intense disinformation campaign waged against free energy inventions (and genuine researchers), in which the patent offices are also heavily involved.
Title: Re: Passive Power Amplifier Patent US8653903
Post by: lancaIV on September 20, 2016, 12:02:26 PM
Some points in the posts which will become agreed.


But let us think about FE devices,publicated by reknown institutes and Universities:
                                      a.  energy harvester and nantennas
              and b. devices based by the decay from radioactive material: Betavoltaic


                       We have to think about converting,not "creating".


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