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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #75 on: October 22, 2019, 11:28:58 PM »
These are 6 x 2 layer= 12 layer cells, produced by graphene ink printing process and actually in 5x3 mtrs foils production then cutted  !
The honorary Prof.(Ex-Phillips Liverpool/Eindhoven Paris R&D engineer)  is not directly involved, the universities here work together. Head :Uni Aveiro

80% by accumulated 12 layers
compared

                      Alvin Marks tandem cell : 75% each cell = 56,25% combinated

                     Joseph Yater cell : nearly Carnot-efficiency unity

                     Helmut Reichelt graphit cell :  up to 98% conversion efficiency
                    Optical rectenna : up to 85% conversion efficiency

The question now will be : device lifetime/durability,Marks 2-layer cell estimated by himself : 1/2 year
And clearly : to which price the producer want to go to market ? And when to the endconsumer market. ?
If I would have such a technology in hands I would not enter the endconsumer market but at first building " solar parcs" !
B.O.S.: building and operating and selling : the electricity !


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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #76 on: October 28, 2019, 11:17:41 PM »
https://greatercea.org/lightbulb-efficiency-comparison-chart/

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19901120&CC=US&NR=4972094A&KC=A#

ELCON lightbulb with "70%" conversion efficiency. !  ??? ? 1988 priority  !       
                            Compared inandescent bulb 2%,but more important cause related. :

                            Koehler/Marzahn  :  Artificial light solar converter :


                              light source fluorescent light bulbs/lamp, efficiency 10%. !




     Solar cells conversion efficiency 5,25 % in the End 80'  ! B. Koehler priority date !



      Koehler ( solar cell ).                      70 Watt output.                               35 Watt fluorescent lamp input
      Marzahn ( 5x solar cell +mirror) 650 Watt output                        12x  cfl bulbs a 13 W = 156 W input




           15%,20%,45%,60%.  light-electric conversion  ?                               30%,50%,70% lamp/bulb efficiency ?


To understand the physical conversion effect :
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102010035706&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
                                         
                                                                            [0010]

 the lamps/bulbs are NOT in " fixed 1 METER" distance ,the fixed formula distance of photon light spreadmeasure. !
Light intensity and conversion ( per sqm/sqcm)  with 80 cm-60 cm- 40cm-20cm-10cm-5cm distance. ?

+ relatively " cold light" focussing by mirror. :
http://geo-dome.co.uk/article.asp?uname=solar_mirror

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2019, 12:57:34 PM »
Real World challenge :
https://www.google.com/search?q=contest+micro-grid&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
F. E. :
https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2016/11/01/winners-of-solar-for-all-contest-will-build-microgrids-in-india/
"free available energy" means up to 1 billion humanpower ,actually rural living, more  worldwide available. !
Locally,national,international. !
                               as  central micro-grid example :

The graphene cell + A.Marks ELCON + inverter + hydro-electric capsule for less than 100 Euros. :
                      500 Watt per hour cell output x 24 hours
10+ x " small user: 450 Watth/day" electricity delivery. !

Battery ? Biosolar ,predicted 50 US$/ KWh; Pedro Correia Alu-cell,idem ~ Biosolar; Alvin Marks "QENSOR
And also important : free clean water. !
https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/118354.html  "ULTRACHEAP" ? IN NUMBER/KWh. ?


With low cost VTOLs. https://www.google.com/search?q=fliegendes+motorrad&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m the urban service delivery " education/health/security" will make rural zones " civilian". !And drones will do the postal/transport service. ! Streets/road independant  !

Exploring the deserts and islands worldwide. !
Part of own vision and project :

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=inflatable+bubble&oq=inflatable+bubble&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5
these inflatable bubble platforms as " flyinging/flairing plattform",fast relocateable. !
       "flying glamping shelter" for weekends,holiday,rural 24/365 living  !


The international search for "synthetic production process" :
http://senaye.gov.az/en/international_news/gold
Gold as industrial Metall for nantennas and CNT- surface layer

https://www.google.com/search?q=gold+melts+in+room+temperature&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-mas layer deposition method very important
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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #79 on: November 14, 2019, 02:01:01 PM »
https://m.phys.org/news/2008-08-flexible-nanoantenna-arrays-capture-abundant.html
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/research-news/battery-lasts-200000-cycles-2016-05/
Strategical Mineral : gold !
gold mine : ?

F.e. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_Psyche
actual gold market price decrease to 1/100 up to 1/1000 the value ?
The asteroids belt as nano-tech industry mine field

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2020, 03:10:24 PM »
Lanca  Heard from  member Brad who is using the Sun for growing sprouts
I believe yield is 50 lb bag of black oil sunflower seed makes 5-600 lbs food in one weeks time.
can I beg your research skills here [MANY health claims] maybe a new topic ??

I will be "building" too [all supplies in pic below [ph meter 5.8 -6.3 ..?? for germination treatment/soak of sunflower seed
if not thats fine too [ i will start a topic soon
Thx Chet K  PS good hygiene important at all stages for healthy crop 

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #82 on: May 02, 2020, 02:00:22 AM »
From enerergy exploration with high aerosol emission to solar radiation conversion up to nonstop :


https://www.wj-rottal-inn.de/images/2010/desertecvortrag.pdf page 7-


shows the beginning from the conversion project from decentralized production to E.U.-building program application " in situ solar radiation conversion",


consumer-centralized and portable .

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #83 on: June 05, 2020, 03:38:21 PM »
alibaba.com solar panels turkey : under 20 Eurocents/Wp

2025 we can assume 15 Euro-cents/Wp and 2030 10 Euro-cents/Wp

NovaSolix calculates with at the beginning 20 Euro-cents/US$-cents down to 10 cents/Wp


From 5-3Euros/US$/Wp on tect installation to 0,5/0,3 Euros/US$/Wp -inhouse solar- installation costs !
3600 Wp and 10800 Euros actual market to less than 1200 Euros 3600 Wp inhouse.included inverter !

Because 3,6 KWp,divided in 18 sqm solar panel area, 1400 KWh/sqm  sun radiation value per annum and 15% solarelectric conversion = 210 KWh per sqm/annum ,this totals by 90% inverter conversion efficiency 3400 KWh useable power :


less expensive alternative if not Wp but "total power per year" economical orientation :

A.Ed Thorpe wind concentrator turbine + Arestov double winding + generator coil coating + inverter ~ 750-625 Euros for 3400 KWh per annum
             

           = uncontrolled wind farming


B. Fanerator,similar investment range,advantage related wind concentrator turbine : start/stop- on demand !

           = controlled wind farming

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #84 on: July 21, 2020, 10:38:38 PM »



Psst Lanca
https://zpower.com/ Day and Nightime solar harvesting ?
you have a topic on this ??


I heard today this is real [well I did read sometime back too [maybe you ?
this one maybe we need some ?"research for experiments ??" [hows it work ....?
This man Reed has been a long time making the claim...
respectfully

Chet KEDIT
PS Hmm Now I remember we had this recently somewhere here ...his special "plates" .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsJwRznsf4o






https://www.pr.com/press-release/803895


To summarize ZPower’s new solar technology:


- Clean power from the sun (no fuel consumption or toxic emissions)


- Constant electricity produced (24-7 non-stop energy)


- Affordable electricity (wholesale rates less than 2¢ per kWh)


- Solid-State (no moving parts with a projected life of 30 years)


- Compact Size (ZPower 1 Megawatt Power Plant needs 2.5% of 1 acre. But 1 Megawatt of solar panels require 2.5 acres)




  So by 8766 hours per year x 30 years and 10% capital tax and 2 cents/KWh we can expect :


                        1.250.000 US$/MW container-box investment ( = 1250$/KW)





Chet,probably 1 MW for "crowd funding"-groups for local "Energy Parc"-installation interestant !


6000 W zpower device : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBPGlW8hXQ  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Re2HSMpC0U




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-RsZDU4H7A



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgehtanders.de%2Fder-fluxgenerator-von-james-b-schwartz%2F

This version already had 6000 watts of output power.


In a video he explains the following:


 “Here we have three plates with a solid aluminum layer on one side, followed by a layer of bismuth , then another layer of aluminum with six recesses. The windings are attached there, followed by a layer of bismuth, another plate with windings, then another layer of bismuth, then another plate of aluminum, and so you get a panel.

http://fluxpowertechnology.com/   https://spark.adobe.com/page/sRdP4qaNoCRW0/

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #85 on: July 22, 2020, 02:32:50 AM »
sooo

how to harvest ? [I see a few possible paths you mention...

last week you posted a document on ambient energy harvesting ...member kampen was excited...it was quite interesting...[I will look for it...

However ..an array to harvest "Light" energy ??
if this is true ...and no Nano stuff...we need this....


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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #86 on: July 22, 2020, 11:08:39 AM »
"nano" is only a quantity dimension ,when we work with harvest devices in the light-wave spectrum we are ever working in the nano-sphere/dimension !
To get a inspiration : 

                                      1 KWh electricity its weight : 40 ng     

     
                                      1 MWh electricity its weight : 40 mg     


                                      1 GWh electricity its weight :  40 g

                                      1 Nanogram electricity : 25 Wh

                                      1 Kilogram electricity : 25 GWh


So in future beside photo(n)-voltaic we will catch and convert also phono(n)voltaic energy ,also called thermal-noise !
When you look to your diagram you will see two important parameters :length and frequency= vibrations/oscillations/cycles

This processes are very fast,down to Femto-seconds and also the free=unbonded and bonded energy stage is timely very short = recombination phase  !
Seebeck/Peltier/Thompson/Carnot dynamic devices  effect : all-in-1
The future : graphene- translucent ferrit-cristals  nano bucky balls array as thin foils or paint-/spray-able liquids
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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #87 on: July 22, 2020, 09:42:47 PM »
https://youtu.be/LsXo6HfTj6g

In this video man shows how proximity of bismuth enhance radio signal.

I dont know what purpose is Al, maybe Al plate is antenna?

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #88 on: November 13, 2020, 02:12:11 AM »
#72 : grupovisabeira.
          visabeira.pt

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #89 on: November 23, 2020, 03:13:15 PM »
Hello ricardotore,
this is the overunity.com basic question !
Would it not be easier to take this question as treat theme: overall interest ?!



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                       List 24h/365 days sommer max winter max :   

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                      house electric appliances parallel or seriell use,     controler,timer/schedule

                     When to begin with self-generation,2020,2021,....2025 ?

                     When on-grid : inter-change with electricity provider ( national,company conditioning)

                    When off-grid which emergency ( base generator defect/stolen/.......)

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