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Author Topic: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments  (Read 25171 times)

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2016, 07:42:51 PM »
Electrons=ions
You guys know this is what kapandze is doing,  ;)
A coils magnetic field is opposite polarity of the applied current.
This is why a coil pulsed with dc will give ac.
Pulse a coil with a pos pulse an get neg bemf, pulse a coil with a neg pulse an get a pos bemf.
Ionized air, oxygen an nitrogen

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2016, 07:49:47 PM »
So many different types of solar cells to select from! I expect the ideal would be one that allows for the through transmission of light for photons to interact with multiple cells in the stack, and a type that allows for magnetic connection both sides. Any suggestions for what to purchase for experimenting/replicating is appreciated.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20060121748

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The coupling device according to the invention is elucidated on the basis of an exemplary embodiment, Wherein thin-film solar cells With a titanium carrier foil are coupled.  It is pointed out that within the scope of the inventive concept the coupling device is equally applicable for coupling thin-film solar cells with a metalized plastic carrier foil.
 
It is emphasized that in the context of the present invention “thin-film photovoltaic cells” include all photovoltaic cells Which have a thickness such that they are suitable for electrical coupling to a coupling device according to the invention. Examples of such photovoltaic cells are chalcogenide cells, in particular copper indium(gallium)selenide (Cl(G)S) cells, cells With amorphous silicon, organic cells and dye-sensitized liquid cells.

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2016, 01:58:10 PM »
http://web.archive.org/web/20070602085657/http://www.io.com/~frg/


Like the TAC generator in the video, this tiny MEMS thermoacoustic generator  converts heat into electricity.The source of heat can be solar radiation,[size=-1] waste heat from combustion, even body heat. It requires no maintenance and is cost competitive with all existing power generation equipment.
Cost of capitalized equipment:                                     MEMS-TAR < $0.10/W


  The MEMS-TAR is an innovative micro-miniature generator-on-a-chip that uses sonic energy to convert heat into electricity.  It integrates signal processing, power conditioning and control circuitry all in the same package, and can be configured as an eight pin DIP chip.  It can be used singly or packaged into panel arrays for harvesting solar energy at five percent of the cost of competing technologies such as photovoltaics.


http://web.archive.org/web/20070804183450/http://www.io.com/~frg/tar.htm
The MEMS-TAR handles more throughput and has a greater output than PVs. It can produce two or three times the output, for a given surface area, [/font][/size]as conventional photovoltaics--~600 Watt/sq. meter for MEMS-TARs
vs. ~200 Watts/sq. meter for PVs.


With water cooling the MEMS-TAR can easily tolerate throughputs of >10 Watts/cm2.
It can withstand stagnation temperatures in excess of 600 F (315 C) for long periods without damage.[/font][/size]

10  Watts/cm2 = 100 000 Watts/sqm : how much the costs per Wp including the cooling system costs ? (cooling: IBM solution ?)


http://www.google.com/patents/US5009243 concentrator,evacuated chamber,magnets,special gases + TAR cell array

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2016, 01:58:10 PM »
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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2016, 03:00:42 PM »
Lanca
you found the patent info !

http://www.google.com/patents/US5009243

Thank you

I will call the TAR link and report any result.[they are a few yours behind me , still early there

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2016, 09:45:29 AM »
Lanca
Nobody picking up the phone at those contact numbers for Thermo acoustic cycle generators  or TAC  .

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2016, 09:45:29 AM »
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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2016, 11:13:59 AM »
Hello Chet,
from directly view you are right,the MEMS-TAR is not an Owen Barker development,but based by Oscar Fellows !
The point is that the Barker concept is not "special solar converter" related,there is the conceptual freedom to use each other kind of radiation conversion in Barkers "radiation chamber idea" and the TAR is actually the best solution from my opinion !

But propably there is the need to begin with that material (conventional solar cells) that is comercial available than to dream about the perfect final solution !

About the TAR development we can read in the www.io.com/~frg page (offered by archive.org):
 http://web.archive.org/web/20100811112735/http://www.io.com/~frg/developer-partners.html
October 2009:  FRG has traded an IP license for stock in Resonant Energy Systems, Inc.  The two companies are collaborating to produce the MEMS-TAR, a TAC generator-on-a-microchip, and the MicroTAC personal power generator.


http://www.resonant-energy.com
Resonant Energy Systems, Inc.
112 Clear Spring RoadGeorgetown, TX 78628
Phone: 512-864-2097Fax: 240-536-1317
e-mail: info@resonant-energy.com

Contacts:
Dr. Michael Pedersen (Resonant Energy Systems, Inc)[/font][/size]Lee Fellows (Fellows Research Group)[/size]

But nothing new since 2010 !
« Last Edit: June 29, 2016, 02:11:19 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2016, 01:27:28 PM »
well the answering machine message still works ,albeit a very short and fuzzy message,

and now reading your Link.. it seems -Fellows research group- is what the message says !

Chet




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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2016, 02:16:05 PM »
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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2016, 06:06:12 PM »
Lanca
OK I have been contacted [It was a bad time for me to talk at the time]
we spoke briefly ...a very pleasant exchange and  I have a follow up call /appointment for this evening.

I will be reporting back !

respectfully
Chet

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2016, 06:06:12 PM »
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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2016, 12:19:10 PM »
some more on the fellows research group [Not Owen Barker yet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6f_nmJh0E

« Last Edit: July 02, 2016, 03:09:11 PM by ramset »

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2016, 12:39:33 PM »
https://de.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A9mSs2Yad71XiZcAvTUzCQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByZmVxM3N0BGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=Glasfaserlampe+Bild&fr=mcafee

 light from f.e. lamp as source to glas fibre
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 glas fibre to solar fibre cell
https://de.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A9mSs2eOeL1XskgAFekzCQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByZmVxM3N0BGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=Solar+Fiber+Cell&fr=mcafee

http://opvap.com/solar.files/image010.jpg  inverse,light fiber tube

this old Batelle-Institute concept reversing
http://www.google.com/patents/US4913744
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24/365 efficient light source searched  ::)

bad solution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optoelectric_nuclear_battery "Dirty Bomb" risc

a lamp array ? http://www.rexresearch.com/imris/imris.htm         less risc,costs per Wp
 
later OLED or  http://newatlas.com/ultra-low-power-light/34349/ similar technique (100lm/W :-\ )
2016,Cree: 300 lm/W(lab stage)

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds

in mind:
The LED produces 69 picowatts of light using 30 picowatts of power, giving it an efficiency of 230 percent. That means it operates above "unity efficiency" -- putting it into a category normally occupied by perpetual motion machines.
However, while MIT's diode puts out more than twice as much energy in photons as it's fed in electrons, it doesn't violate the conservation of energy because it appears to draw in heat energy from its surroundings instead. When it gets more than 100 percent
electrically-efficient, it begins to cool down, stealing energy from its environment to convert into more photons.

( or/and M.I.T. LED material own transmutation and energy release !? atomic weight before/after)
 
They ,MIT,have one directional path from the ppm machine as "heat to light amplifier" disclosed,   now we have to do the "Mirror"effect,phase shift and the cold path  : 

thermodynamical phase shift : what differs O(circuit,cycle) from the symbol eternal: OO ,OXO ?
                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle
the ideal machine,giving gain, needs two cycles,hot and cold path circuits

                  this is the "ideal thermodynamical" concept and target :
                           mathematical force gain to physical force gain
                        http://www.rexresearch.com/flynn/Ppfigure3.gif
                        electro(cold)-magnetism(hot) thermodynamic effect

                     an em-bandweith spectrum light converter working like

em force source converter unit (Figure 6,7)and total machine force sources diagram(Fig. 18/19)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
Mosaics/Drawings page 1 and 2

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2016, 12:39:33 PM »
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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2016, 02:05:30 AM »
https://cleantechnica.com/2016/06/10/coal-killing-perovskite-solar-cell-beats-20-mark-flash-assist/

240Watt panel/1333W daily peak ~ 18 % efficiency
http://www.inpama.com/index.php?content=invention&id=660
This numbers seems only to be an 3x upgrade from a documented development from  the german inventor
Paul Heinrich Marzahn ( 5 x 130 W panel and 5 x 30 W CFL )


Will try to reach Mr.Baquero by e-mail/phone and asking about functional prototype.


 ES-patent office granted,probably only as utiliy model(l).
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20100113&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=EP&NR=2144298A2&KC=A2&ND=4
[0002]" ...who is an expert on the subject..." ::)  did he want to impress the european patent office peers,
which have also to avail about applied Nobel-award granted scientists work.




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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2016, 02:28:06 AM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auction-100-Watt-100W-12V-12-Volt-Flexible-Bendable-Solar-Panel-RV-Boat-Marine-/162191920474?hash=item25c3644d5a:g:xDAAAOSweWVXciCd


$1.20 per watt. ;D Looks like the ones Lasersaber uses.  I saw an ad today that had shown a 220w for just over $100. Trying to find it. Not flexible though.

Mags

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Re: 24/365 solar cell output theory and experiments
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2016, 02:34:17 AM »
Sooo Lanca
I think that one link with the "revolutionary solar cell hits 100% efficiency" claim dated April first and Finishing with  MyArse
may have some issues ??

this one >http://optics.org/news/7/4/1

??

 

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