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### Author Topic: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM  (Read 73149 times)

#### Low-Q

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2016, 09:33:51 PM »
All I can say is that you have a strong will, burnit0017 :-)
Aside from that, and not to be a party killer, but I might have experienced from several experiments that gravity and magnets can't provide energy...
If you really want to try something, that I failed in making, is this one:
https://youtu.be/LDRorMyxdO0

If you for some reason can make a magnet that keeps its magnetic orientation while it is spinning around, this device will actually work.
The idea is that the inner rotor is a magnetic south pole at the circumference, and north pole in the center. The outer rotor is magnetized through its diameter so south is on one side and north on the other side - even if it is spinning around.
IF you can achieve this, you have a magnet motor with 20% excess energy.
Let me explain:
In this construction, both outer and inner rotor has the same torque, but the inner rotor spins 20% faster than the outer rotor due to the 5/4 gear ratio. This is proven by simulations only. That means the energy of the inner rotor must be higher. As you know that torque multiplied with RPM is energy.
The problem:
How can I get a permanent magnet keep its magnetic orientation in the same direction while it is spinning? When that problem is solved, you got yourself an over unity device.

You cannot magnetize the outer rotor with external magnets. That will cause the outer rotor to increase the torque to 20% more than the inner rotor. So it will not work.

Now you can start figure things out to make it work :-)

#### burnit0017

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2016, 08:16:09 PM »

#### Low-Q

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2016, 01:53:57 PM »
https://youtu.be/8RKKecCTds4
I must say you really put lots of good work into your projects. I'm impressed. Hope it works as you want it to :-)

#### burnit0017

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #48 on: September 02, 2016, 11:36:15 PM »
https://youtu.be/0cClk0KGBLA

Thanks, I have a small CNC router.

#### burnit0017

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2016, 04:36:20 AM »
https://youtu.be/I0MdmaIZrkU

posting just for info, nice pendulum configuration, I will give it a try

#### burnit0017

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2016, 09:40:07 PM »

#### Low-Q

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2016, 06:40:10 AM »
https://youtu.be/uIxIjTMn960
Phun has a bug. I have experienced unexpected things with phun myself.
I made an unbalanced wheel, and springs attached a little distance from the hub, but 90° offset - one horizontal and one vertical. The wheel accelerated in one direction, and did not want to rotate the other direction.
The "ballbearing" in the center of the chapes does not keep itself in place under stress. This will make false computing of the forces involved in you model, because Phun use the actual location of the mass for computing, and overlook that the bearing isn't fixed to one place.
The experiment is easy to replicate in Phun.

Vidar

#### burnit0017

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2016, 10:41:58 PM »
Hi, thanks for info.I had to order some parts. I should have more to show in a few weeks. Thanks again. Cheers

#### burnit0017

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #53 on: September 15, 2016, 01:25:53 AM »

#### Low-Q

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2016, 11:22:35 PM »
This is an awesome build, burnit
Have you kept going for so long that the plants starts growing on you project? Looks like it in the background there

Keep going, and keep us posted. Most of all, have fun while building regardless of the outcome. Thanks for sharing!

Vidar

#### FreeEnergy

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2016, 04:18:59 AM »

burnit0017 if you have time please consider... see attachment file.

#### burnit0017

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2016, 04:59:04 AM »
Hi, I had poor results when I built that project. Has anyone had good results??

#### FreeEnergy

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2016, 05:28:33 AM »
really? any videos?

#### burnit0017

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #58 on: September 16, 2016, 07:20:19 AM »
Hi, they are on my youtube home channel page.

#### FreeEnergy

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##### Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2016, 07:53:16 AM »
Apparently these guys got a working model according to tv news channels.. Someone please translate.