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Author Topic: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells  (Read 692623 times)

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1545 on: February 09, 2016, 08:29:13 PM »
two of my remaining 4 solutions precipitated and I was able to test them in my "standardized cell test".

the 1:2 mixture - arcanite and magnesium chloride:
contrary to my proposal, this mixture was relatively unproductive.
the undisturbed crystals produced 0.25v potential with little or no current production in the cell (nanoamps)
the sample was then crushed and classified through a #30 screen filter
productivity almost completely vanished.

the 3:1 mixture however, produced 0.7V consistently, with an average cell short-circuit current of 0.34ma

 these cells are made by rolling a piece of aluminum foil around a tube, to create a cylinder of set size
a standard size/shape of copper electrode is attached to the case, and one ran through the center of the crystal mass
This gives me a "standard cell" structure, upon which to baseline my tests. The only variable throughout the 20 cells that will be tested is the salt mixture, by proportion of the two salts. It is my intention to determine the best proportion of IBPointless2's crystal mixture that produces the highest voltage potential, and if possible the highest current as well.
unfortunately, at this time, I suspect a trend is forming when higher voltages equals lower current through the cell.

The only cell thus far to not behave in this manner was the 3:1 cells, which produce a considerable current at the 0.7v mark.



What is interesting to note is that each of the 4 mixtures produces a completely different crystal structure.
(the 2:1, which is still in solution, is producing flat sheet-like crystals, while the 3:1 is a large cubic structure)

The results of this test (thus far, as it is not yet concluded) seem to confirm IBPointless2's analysis of compound crystal battery cells.

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1546 on: February 10, 2016, 04:31:43 PM »
I connected 4 cells together (3:1 proportion) in series.

V=1.8
I=0.23ma

They are currently connected directly to a series LED. Which is dimly lit.
no resistor, or anything else. I'm just going to let this run until it drains the battery. See how long it goes.

In the meantime, I plan to build more cells, and make the battery large enough to power a DC motor.


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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1547 on: February 11, 2016, 07:48:24 PM »
I have concluded my tests of the IB cells.
Following the process from the beginning of the research, and observing how the ingredients were reduced,
most notably was alum was discluded.
Narrowing down two component salts of electrolytic capacity: Epsom Salt and Salt Substitute
The chemical names of these salts are: Magnesium Sulfate and Potassium Chloride

The best electrolyte I was able to make was a 3:1 proportion

The electrolytic reaction takes place at a rate ~ twice as fast as ordinary table salt.
There is heavy corrosion of the copper electrode, while the aluminum foil remains relatively unchanged.

Over time, there is a discoloration of the salts by cuprous oxide, which can be salted out of solution.
This may have some other application, but all in all, this proves to be a valid battery for a doomsday scenario.

this one goes on my list with the penny/seawater battery as an emergency power source.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1548 on: March 18, 2016, 03:31:04 PM »
hi smoky2,glad to see you here trying to do something.I have not followed through with anymore experimenting myself.Im still interested in what others are doing.triffid.


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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1549 on: March 18, 2016, 03:36:13 PM »
Smoky2 follow drodenbe profile here.you can look up whats hes posted

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1550 on: March 18, 2016, 03:38:05 PM »
drodenbe  has made some breakthroughs in this area.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1551 on: November 17, 2016, 03:29:47 PM »

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1552 on: September 28, 2017, 03:20:47 PM »
test

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1553 on: September 26, 2019, 03:49:21 PM »
I'm coming back to this area of experimentation.I ordered some iron pyrite samples.Also have a source of bismuth to use.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1554 on: September 26, 2019, 06:11:07 PM »
#1546 :
what is the weight of each cell and how long  1,8 V a 0,23 mA ~  0,414 mVA electricity  delivery. ?

1 Watt ~ 1 VA :                          1 VA / 0,414 mVA = 2415 x 4 cells = 9660 cells  :o
                                                         or is I = 0,23 A. ?

For comparison :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4390605A/en