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Title: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: Permanente on May 18, 2016, 02:10:37 AM
Someone please help me out. As I am still very very new to this.

Are there any ACTUAL working devices one can replicate on this forum?

I have seen alot of promising devices like the bedini motor. In which one motor is pushing a flywheel and the momentum and inertia of the weight is driving a generator. Is this possible or just mathematically still a bunch of nonsense.

I have also seen versions of the "gravity motor" in which the whole device is akin to a chair being held by one corner. In perpetual imbalance so the bottom of the chair or machine is continually falling. I guess the theory is that it takes less energy to keep the top of the machine imbalanced than the  by the bottom spinning weight.

To me these to things seem possible but you guys would know best.

I am not talking about perpetual motion. I am talking about a machine that sits there producing power out of magic basically. Using gravity momentum magnets whatever..

Anyone wanna chime in. please help me with my first build guys!! thanks
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: VMP100 on July 25, 2016, 01:58:29 AM
Good question. I would like to know the same.

Any little simple device that would give more watts out than the input would be great for a starter.

VMP
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: lumen on July 25, 2016, 04:21:04 AM
The real answer is NO.
If there was anything that could produce excess energy from nothing there would already be many replicating such a device.

Extracting energy from the environment is where you might look.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: seychelles on July 25, 2016, 05:31:17 AM
LUMEN energy can not be created or destroy, if that is the case the whole universe is energy.So the energy has to come from somewhere.
THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF FREE ENERGY IS 100 PLUS % EFFICIENCY AND ONE
GOT TO KNOW WHERE THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM.. A SOLAR CELL , A PERMANENT MAGNET
IS FREE ENERGY , A TREE IS FREE ENERGY..THE WHOLE UNIVERSE IS FREE ENERGY, THE SUN.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: marathonman on July 25, 2016, 08:13:27 AM
Walter Russel stated that man wires his coils wrong wasting 50% of the E fields in magnetic fields or something there of.
in the Clemente Figuera device that 50% is added back to the E field making it 100%.
the device is easy to build and can be scalable
please read my advancements on post #3780.
so to answer your question, "yes" there is an ou device in operation.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: forest on July 25, 2016, 09:12:25 AM
Magnetic field is energy.AEther is coming from one pole and is dissipated into opposite :-) It's a wormhole
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: scratchrobot on July 25, 2016, 11:11:06 AM
Yes there are many working devices on this forum, just take your pick.
If i were you i would go for a Kapanadze kind of device, it puts out kilowats of free energy.
If you want to understand the process of how it all works i advise you to watch some Gerard Morin video's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YsuEeCTqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YsuEeCTqs)
He's the Tesla of this century.


Resonance is the key ;)

Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: NTesla on July 26, 2016, 12:37:52 AM
Yes!

Solar panels and wind generators.

 ;D
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: memoryman on July 26, 2016, 01:58:38 AM
@scratchrobot: Morin is the MORON of the century. He has no clue what he is talking about.
Not a single OU device on this or any other forum.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: hoptoad on July 26, 2016, 08:45:39 AM
Regarding "any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum", if you mean Over Unity, then no, nada, zip. But if you mean Obviously Useless, then yes, there are plenty. Que sera.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: markdansie on July 26, 2016, 09:32:12 AM
Sadly No
However there are some interesting experiments and discussions.
You may look in the archives of freeenergynews.com and study the history of hundreds of free  energy devices and claims.
Kind Regards
Mark
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: scratchrobot on July 26, 2016, 02:48:34 PM
@scratchrobot: Morin is the MORON of the century. He has no clue what he is talking about.
Not a single OU device on this or any other forum.


Yes i know but i find his video's are very entertaining!
I asked him if he could do another one with his friend Bob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE) :)


Permanente's question is a very good one but also a very bump one :o


To be honest, the only reason i'm still on this forum is for it's entertainment value...
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: massive on July 26, 2016, 11:34:53 PM
on this site ?     maybe , maybe not , I personally am not going to investigate every theory , no thanks

in the real world we are surrounded by free energy , Hoover dam , solar panels and wind farms are good exmples . the owners get free electricity and choose to sell it to everyone and cut off anyone who doesnt  pay .    the cost for generating the power is zero  . 


http://www.greenandcarter.com/main/products.htm

^ these guys have been in bussiness for centuries .


Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
as for electrical generators , eventually people will stop trying to bleed more electrons from the voltage source but until then , NO

 
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: conradelektro on July 27, 2016, 02:02:29 PM

in the real world we are surrounded by free energy , Hoover dam , solar panels and wind farms are good exmples . the owners get free electricity and choose to sell it to everyone and cut off anyone who doesnt  pay .    the cost for generating the power is zero  . 


I agree with "massive" and want to add some thoughts:

Most people think that "energy" is a technical issue. But as "massive" has said, we have plenty of technologies which give us "energy" (wind, rivers, sun, hot inner earth, tides). And it needs some careful technical development to use these "energies".  But the technologies are available and work pretty well.

What does not work are the "politics of energy". These policies work only for a small number of people and make them rich and powerful. The rest of the world population has to pay dearly to get "energy".

And who's fault is this? Well I am pretty sure at least 50% of the readers in this forum believe in free market economy and capitalism in some way. And a few believe in a form of socialism or communism. And most do not care or do not understand that "energy" generation, use and availability depends on the political view which is dominant.

Whatever political view the majority or the truly powerful have determines the access to "energy"!

What I never will understand is, why "free market believers" want OU. If an OU device is ever invented, it will immediately be part of the "market" and access to this technology will be restricted by the "owners" who want to become rich. Nothing will change. It does not matter whether a solar panel is expensive or a OU-machine.

So, it is your fault, because you vote for or at least allow (by your political ignorance) the powerful to restrict access to energy.

In other words: "energy" like all things on earth depends on what you believe politically or on what you allow to happen (because of your political ignorance)!

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: forest on July 27, 2016, 03:29:03 PM
Except solar or wind power need resources which are not available to ordinary people but only to corporations controlled by financial and political powers. They need sophisticated industrial plants to build them and so it is controllable...
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: Permanente on July 28, 2016, 03:13:02 PM
Thanks for the replies guys!!

I think you guys are on to something with the politics of energy and etc... Everything always comes down to a business model and the "HAVES" imposing their rules on the "HAVENOTS."

If you want to break into their world you probably would have to play by their rules. I for myself know alot of people that are perfectly fine with skirting the line or avoiding the empirical structure all together.

you know beatniks at heart.

I figure with enough energy you can literally take care of almost all other necessities. Dehumidifier for water (with filtration system), ac and heater for temp control, light for seeing and tv/entertainmentl, and of course to power up tools and equipment to make your life easier

So a magical powerbox would make everything simpler for me.

So basically in the real world the main issue is everyone is a slave to the power grid even if they dont know it. And if that were to collapse or go offline for X reasons chaos ensues.


Online on the other hand the things i am seeing is a bunch of clickbait, outright scams, and an overall unhealthy environment when it comes to energy discussions.

I dont believe it is too difficult of a contraption (magicbox) i just really am not well versed in a lot of physics principles.

It does not have to be necessarily overunity (more out than came in).
It does not have to be perpetual motion (the earth wont exist forever anyway)

it does need to produce energy from fuel that is readily available.

Main contenders I think a combination of many or all of these could really work

Gravity + momentum + bouyancy + inertia + magnetism

Somehow someway get a flywheel spinning on its own...

Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 29, 2016, 07:57:03 PM
Hi if your interested there is a way but It will need some work. I showed this before . go look at the formula for a a string of capacitors in series you will see that the total is equal to the total divided by the number of caps. (All caps being equal in uf's) including the first cap.the charging cap put a positive charge on it and a earth ground on the last cap. And all the calls will generate equal charges.the first cap you will have to charge but the rest charge them selves. By inductance aka free.the more caps the less you have to charge to get the same results.

Pos-----l I------I I------ll------l l --------l l ------(earth ground)
(Applied.    Free. Free  free   free

It's like taking a pitcher of water you would have to work for dividing it up into ten glasses you still have the original water but now you worked for only one glass.power extraction is different in that each cap needs to be discharged individually or you just screw it up .but it refills right away. Also if you measure the caps while they are still in series the voltages will be different because of there interrelated state but the charges are all the same. If you study this out on the internet you will see but you will need to go to the area of physics they don't tell all at any one site but collectively they tell it all. It's been with us like from the beginning and no one sees it. Strange like a mental block or programed avoidance.?   Jim out
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 29, 2016, 08:23:45 PM
Hi I just read the others posts and there wrong this system is like nature's way of making lighting Thu electrostatic induction . you see any lighting on a sunny day ? No but thru clouds and water vapor and random charges and proximity with other clouds bang!! Something from nothing and it can kill you!! .those boys are closed system people sure your not going to get any were that way it's a zero sum system.! You have to be in an open system. This really gets something from nothing.same way nature does it by attracting the current Thu a strong positive or negative charge they just come trying to rebalance there environment. It's called regauging. You will never get it done in a closed system that's why they keep you there your a dog chasing your tail. Jim out  ::hell even Tesla said the same thing "connect to wheelworks of the universe " not a closed loop.☑
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: memoryman on July 29, 2016, 09:56:18 PM
jimbo, I suggest that you learn some elementary electricity.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 30, 2016, 08:18:34 AM
I am a cet and i have second class FCC license yet I need more or is it the other way around.? This area is not studied  from conduction to induction .explain the circuit please .and why I'm wrong. Not just hit and run.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: pomodoro on July 30, 2016, 01:38:16 PM
Jimbo, the cap circuit will never work.  There is no electrostatic charge on the negative plate of the first capacitor compared to the earths potential. Nothing to be ashamed about as it is an easy misconception which takes some time to comprehend. Although there are more electrons on the negative plate of the capacitor, when charged, that extra charge is compensated by the lesser electrons on the positive plate. This'' locks  those extra electrons up at the surface of the negative plate that faces the positive plate.  The result of all this is no net electrostatic charge on either plate compared to the earth.  If you don't believe it, charge up a cap and measure either lead to earth.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: memoryman on July 30, 2016, 05:18:56 PM
jimbo, if you are indeed a Certified Engineering Technician/Technologist (as I am) in electronics, you are lacking in the fundamentals. I don't wish to spend my time on teaching elemental; others can do that if they wish. Pomodore did a good job of it.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 30, 2016, 07:51:29 PM
Hi guys I've built it and worked it it's not an academic subject it's on the bench that's the problem now days everything is conjecture I used the POS DC of 119 volts from a inverter with no negative with a battery on rubber no grounding just the earth ground to the last cap. Bedini said you could charge cap this way so I tried it and added more caps they all charged ! And because DC can't go Thu a cap the completely isolated caps in the middle charged by static induction polarizing each other.I'm looking to a solid state layout now with a timing circuit to trigger MOSFETs. It's like a pump for electrons. Now you go try it .or are you so programed by the Establishment you just can't bring your self to.or are you the Establishment!?
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 30, 2016, 07:59:58 PM
 if you can't layout the problem then you really don't see one or you would. Just insulting people is not the scientific method. And it's not like it's a big expensive time consuming project .what three caps and a earth ground and 100 volts DC. A kid can work it. Hell I used 12volts and worked it.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 30, 2016, 08:20:04 PM
Charging caps this way is exactly like the very simple physics lab experiment of taking a POS charged source like a balloon and bring another uncharged balloon near then touching it to ground the billion charges but there its caps this is very old science .and when you discharge these caps they do work.like lighting up a light bulb or charge a battery. And if you can go fast run a motor.this is real free energy. Created from nothing but proximity to a charge source .and not taking anything from the source.it's probably the only free energy production  in nature.and it's as clean as hell green nothing compares. I just hope the rest of the world can get past you guys and try this .we might get some where.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: memoryman on July 30, 2016, 10:46:30 PM
So, when can we buy this 'free energy' system in a real product?
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 30, 2016, 11:06:14 PM
I'm not selling it I'm giving it away for any one to build .still working on the switching .open source. Needs attention .making the power not the problem making in a form that's usefull. It's pulsed and has to be made AC 110. Or DC 14 volt .a lot of work and I'm getting on in years.just through a few parts together and take a look.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: Permanente on July 31, 2016, 10:54:47 PM
So if I am reading you correctly jimbo, (and please mind me.. again i am not necessarily a electric  or physics professional in any way just started to learn very basics)

You are running capacitors in series and only one capacitor has charge (the first one)

the last capacitor is grounded to the earth and the rest of them are basically sucking up electricity from ??

satic field or aether field or mother earths magnetic juice magic right??

Can you give me a simpleparts list to try and recreate?

you said you ran it on 12 volts right??


and everyone else please please no fighting and internet bullshit lets try and keep it civilized



Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: memoryman on July 31, 2016, 10:58:53 PM
I AM an electronics professional (>50 years) and this is nonsense. Of course jimbo isn't selling anything: he has nothing to sell. No product can or will ever be made based on these principles.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 31, 2016, 11:29:36 PM
It's not pulling any thing from the ground  except for the last cap that's connected to ground there's really no current flowing Thu the caps each cap is responding to the front charge and regauging to it causing a polarizing of the caps and at that point you can remove the charge by shorting out the caps one by one . it's more impressive with 119 volts DC and 60 uf caps but yes I've done 12volts if you put a amp meter in the string you can see the current flowing than stop .all full up. Keep the cap sizes the same and don't exceed the voltage ratings and you should be safe. I got my caps on eBay for 11.00 apiece 60 uf@440 volts and with them I was lighting up 4 watt bulbs. Right not real no value no work .I was melting off the tip of my screw drivers with caps that can't possibly be getting a charge. Being blocked by several dialectics DC doesn't go Thu dialectics but the charge was there bang bang band over and over. This is something old school has over looked or are hiding . just trying to keep everyone in economic slavery except them. PS if you have trouble with your set up just let me know what you've done iwill try and get you up and running.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 31, 2016, 11:42:21 PM
Did you get that other post.   hay go home nothing here to see here move along .!Don't look here and don't you dare replicate . keep your head down are your chains to tight ? Well 50years I would of thought more of you if you had even tried to replicate  but that would be sacrilege to your religion .the Bible says a man who rejects a matter before hearing or gaining hands on knowledge is a fool. Don't be foolish.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: Liberty on July 31, 2016, 11:54:04 PM
It's not pulling any thing from the ground  except for the last cap that's connected to ground there's really no current flowing Thu the caps each cap is responding to the front charge and regauging to it causing a polarizing of the caps and at that point you can remove the charge by shorting out the caps one by one . it's more impressive with 119 volts DC and 60 uf caps but yes I've done 12volts if you put a amp meter in the string you can see the current flowing than stop .all full up. Keep the cap sizes the same and don't exceed the voltage ratings and you should be safe. I got my caps on eBay for 11.00 apiece 60 uf@440 volts and with them I was lighting up 4 watt bulbs. Right not real no value no work .I was melting off the tip of my screw drivers with caps that can't possibly be getting a charge. Being blocked by several dialectics DC doesn't go Thu dialectics but the charge was there bang bang band over and over. This is something old school has over looked or are hiding . just trying to keep everyone in economic slavery except them. PS if you have trouble with your set up just let me know what you've done iwill try and get you up and running.

Jimbo,

Do you attach a long wire to the end cap, and the other end of the series caps to ground?  If so, perhaps you are collecting static electricity in the caps?
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 01, 2016, 12:16:02 AM
Sorry I got away from the parts list  not very much really just several caps maybe three so you will have one completely isolated (supposedly can't charge) then a good earth ground and a good DC positive source with complete isolation  hang the negative in the air not touching anything and an volt amp meter to put in line and check the various points of interest . things were diffrent with this circuit than I thought not like I was use to like I used two 60uf and 119 DC with a bridge diode with a car battery and an inverter all isolated .I hooked up the POS lead then turned on the inverter and watched the amp meter in series at the earth ground and let charge i shorted out the cap next to the ground with  a4 watt blub in line and big flash then I did the other cap big flash .then I tried flashing the same cap again and it was less brite I repeatedly shorted it and it stopped flashing all to gether .what had happened was each time I flashed the cap it was trying to repolerize from the POS source but couldn't because it needed to pull electrons from the second cap and it was at its end. So even with the POS connection it could not charge with out the other cap being incondion to do so. So I fired off the other cap and real big bang then the first cap recharged again. They have to fire off in sequence to work or they stop proving that is not a current flow Thu the string. As far as a parts list goes just do a hail Mary I only know what I used and with the meter in line I saw the current flow with 12volts .
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: Gothic on August 01, 2016, 12:40:27 AM
Someone please help me out. As I am still very very new to this.

Are there any ACTUAL working devices one can replicate on this forum?

These are free... more like antenna,s really.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 01, 2016, 12:45:48 AM
Hi liberty  no ground was about 10 foot out and only two feet deep!   The POS line was about four ft long but setting next to me. Was the power box .I've been on line for weeks looking at everything related to this kind of charging trying to find a flaw any thing that would show me an mistake just something any thing but every were I looked I would find more and more confirmation of its working alot of it  on physics sites teaching on fundamentals of induction magnetic and electrostatic the magnetic ihad no use for you know that the first person I found who worked this was benfrankin he called it an economical way of charging lyenden jars! .people get lost in the goppely goup of the series formula which only addresses capacity but says nothing about the induction factor involved the charge cloning going on the caps regauging to there new i
Sercomstances  make it simple with a magnet the North or South Pole will induce a polarity in several nails it pics up each nail is a magnet now it may even retain it when separated from the source mag. But that's really not very useful but with a several caps it does the same thing but now when you short one out bang useful energy .then reloads it's self automatically !!!!. Clean and green as it can be. No solid state to fry with an solar flare no emp bom damage real good  stuff. Just get to work I wound to see blisters on ever finger.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 01, 2016, 12:50:13 AM
Hi Gothic
Nice but you will need to feed off a radio wave source and be outside .with these caps you can be under water under ground or on Mars it makes no difference and is not dependent on any one completely stand alone .
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: Liberty on August 01, 2016, 02:41:43 AM
Hi liberty  no ground was about 10 foot out and only two feet deep!   The POS line was about four ft long but setting next to me. Was the power box .I've been on line for weeks looking at everything related to this kind of charging trying to find a flaw any thing that would show me an mistake just something any thing but every were I looked I would find more and more confirmation of its working alot of it  on physics sites teaching on fundamentals of induction magnetic and electrostatic the magnetic ihad no use for you know that the first person I found who worked this was benfrankin he called it an economical way of charging lyenden jars! .people get lost in the goppely goup of the series formula which only addresses capacity but says nothing about the induction factor involved the charge cloning going on the caps regauging to there new i
Sercomstances  make it simple with a magnet the North or South Pole will induce a polarity in several nails it pics up each nail is a magnet now it may even retain it when separated from the source mag. But that's really not very useful but with a several caps it does the same thing but now when you short one out bang useful energy .then reloads it's self automatically !!!!. Clean and green as it can be. No solid state to fry with an solar flare no emp bom damage real good  stuff. Just get to work I wound to see blisters on ever finger.

Jimbo,

Why don't you design a circuit to gate out the charge to a light or motor, possibly a capacitor which is hooked to this light or motor.  When the caps reach a top charge, have a transistor of some sort turn on and allow the power from the cap to discharge to your load.  Do this with each cap.  See if it will run a light or motor continually with out power input from any source that you supply.  At least show there is no current flow from the input to justify the output.  If it works, you will make people happy here.  Make a youtube video out of it to show people a working model.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 01, 2016, 08:38:22 AM
Im looking into it a chip I think it was a 4212( i might be wrong) run by a 555 the first chip used as a sequential runner to switch a role of MOSFETs sequencely  .I'm a little tight on money right now so I'm working on a mechanical wheel switcher. And them there's the picking out the right power MOSFETs. What's hard about this device is that it's a pulser not easy to access power but looping it would stop the negative commentary. It's hot as hell here around 100 alot and no AC .I'm tired most of the time.so work is slow but that helps in deciding how to make it better the first time  more thought and less wrong creation..hay just run the series cap formula and that's been a standard for centuries. I found a RC calculator on line which if I use right should give me numbers on the series string caps relating to power I would have to put a cheat in it for the resistor value like a one. Give it a little time and I will get there.but if you use the series formula remember  that DC doesn't flow Thu any cap unless it's trashed .and each cap in the series has the same charge in electrons so the charge. Cap can only charge to the same level as the rest.but the capacitance does change and this give a different voltage reading on your meter.but when each is shorted there all the same. Jim out.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: RoliK on August 01, 2016, 03:27:06 PM
Hi,

your conecept is simular to this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGD9o7D4To8

Instead of the brass rod/coil you are using standard caps.
I tried this system also.
First with a coaxial cable instead of the rod/coil setup.

AC 220V --> Phase connect to copper core wire of coaxial cable (100m box) Other end of the core wire is insulated.

From Woven copper shield --> 4 Watt LED AC 220V --> Earth

Other end from Woven copper shield is insulated.
There is no electrical connection from Phase to Earth.

Result: The 4 Watt LED lights. Not very bright, but it lights.

The coaxial cable works in this case like a capacitor, so I replaced it with a standard cap for 250AC, and it works too, with better results.
The 4 Watt Bulb lights a little bit brighter.

I was using standard earth home connection and if I use more caps, my residual-current device acts!

I was asking an electrican, and he told me, thats because of the Leakage of the caps and that the earth connection is nothing else as the N-wire in this case.
So you "steel" some energy from the mains, until its so much current that the residual-current device acts.

I hope I did not make too many mistakes, English is not my main language.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: RoliK on August 01, 2016, 04:32:43 PM
Update:
I made the test again and a second test with 12V Battery and 300W 220AC Inverter instead of the AC mains direct.

With AC mains, the 4 Watt LED light as same as last time.
With battery/inverter setup the LED do not light. I only got 10V AC between woven copper shield and earth.
So I tried 12V LED 1Watt, and it light, but very very weak.

Update health:
One other point. Always when I do this experiments, I got a feeling in my legs, if I do longer it will be a slight pain!
I heard from other tester, similar feelings, and I know from one guy makeing tests with similar setups, that he has really big problems with one leg, now since some months!!!

mfg RoliK
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: conradelektro on August 01, 2016, 08:43:00 PM
What jimbo and Rolik are describing can be done with the attached circuit.

It is a capacitive load on the 220 V mains (or 110 V mains) and you get away with it till your residual current circuit breaker trips at about 30 mA (at about 6 Watt). So, you could steel up to 6 Watt from the power company. I have seen 15 mA residual current circuit breakers in very recent installations, which cuts the steeling down to 3 Watt.

The long parallel wires act like a capacitor. Two or three capacitors in a row (as proposed by jimbo) do not help, they produce more losses.

This type of power steeling is known since the beginning of AC power distribution and comes up again and again in various disguises.

If you want to do it with DC, you have to switch the DC on and off rapidly (which will be the equivalent of a dirty AC).

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: seychelles on August 01, 2016, 08:52:45 PM
These ones are free energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxIRaJlTD4Y&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-L6_rVmU5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9LLHHkrY30
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: RoliK on August 01, 2016, 09:13:17 PM
Yes, thats the configuration i had.
Instead of the mains I also tried a 30Kv, 150khz source.

I was able to light a 9w led 220ac. The curious thing was, that it works without earth. Only one wire connected to the bulb.
This phenomenon was only at some sort of led bulbs. Normal lights with 20W or more didn,t work.

Mfg

Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 02, 2016, 01:01:17 AM
Nice work guys try using a 4 watt light bulb LEDs will light on with the right conditions of voltage but a incondesant bulb needs volts and current. Like lighting a neon on the top of the sine wave light but no power.I'm sorry I'm not sure what your doing there will have to thank about it for a while. I just use DC with caps and ground and I live 2 miles from the power lines and 7 from water off grid it's called .I was thinking to myself to day and I think I'm grand standing . if you have a bedini charger that uses a cap load and dump you could read the uf and voltage off the cap and buy ,3 more just like it then put one in parallel with the original cap and put the other two together The same way then connect them in series with a good earth ground.you would need new switching for this to dump one after the other at the right timing. But this would double the out put .you need the extra caps because in series the cap values get cut in half so this would set things back to the original values and do same for second set of caps. Doubting your output is not bad and you should be ou. This is the smallest lay out I can think of and alot of people have his motors.you see you can't just add another cap and double you've got to double the capacitors capacitance.   Good hunting gentleman. Jim out
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 02, 2016, 01:18:25 AM
Hi guys
You know to really understand what I'm doing I mean if that's what you wount to do? You will have to leave the haloed halls of the first church of electronics and go to several web sites of physics and study the area of  electro static induction there's the information.     using electronic components as a vehicle to achieve the results is what's available. Just a tool. This is just a natural ocurning part of mater and charges. Then you will be on top of this .study it all as much as you can because no one site tells it all and some give out real jems of insite.     Jim out🎆
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: Permanente on August 02, 2016, 03:25:05 AM
Electrostatic inductance huh . I will be looking into this and see if i can learn some stuff.

Sorry i cant be of much help here but thank you guys very much especially jimbo my man thanks!!

How much juice do you think can be attained through this method? enough for real usable power or just enough for led light bulbs (which is a wonderful start by the way)

And can this be multiplied and scaled up or would the capacitors have to be the size of a truck.

I actually follow a channel on youtube, and I am not trying to advertize but it is very interesting stuff

the guys name is "the teslonian(on youtube)" and I believe I saw him building giant capacitors using pvc piped and aluminum foil.

On a side note if anyone has the resources gravity powered generators would work if scaled up. Like a grandfather clock but you park your car on a gian platform and it slowly drops on levers and springs for couple of hours lets say. then you drive it off reset the platform and start all over again.

This could in principle produce very usable power no?
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 02, 2016, 08:37:52 AM
My first attempt used two 60uf 440 volt motor caps and 119volt DC Thu a bridge rectifier running on an inverter and a car battery. And I was fireing off 4 watt 120 volt light bulbs each second if that was for 12 volt batteries it would have been .33333 amps every other second .that's just a first attempt. Don Smith uses caps to an inverter . and runs a lot.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 02, 2016, 08:50:17 AM
You know when your standing in the dark with nothing any power is good .the trouble with people is that dam powers line and water line you hide be hind turn it all off and then make your way.it's like a drug get away from it and you'll see better. Do you see any ou stuff working buyable  .even John. B.  battery swapping stuff runs down . so just go away and make your big contribution of wineing some were else .
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 02, 2016, 09:13:28 AM
Sorry permanents dis regard that last post I speed read it and screwed up what you were saying I apologize. For that brain fart. Every thing has to come from some were . can't get something from nothing . this is bs and this proves it. Just look at the very simple arrangement of a charged balloon bring another near but not touching then touch it to a ground   now you have two charges double the protons or electrons and you haven't touched or taken any thing from the first you can do this all day and night 24/7/365 making something from nothing. But here you use large caps they work very well it's just automating the switching that's a problem. To be worked on.and these charges can weld steel or kill.and running all day and night you'll have a shit load of electricity. You see this attracts energy were as every thing we use we have to work at and pay for but not this way ! It just comes running you couldn't stop it if you wanted to!.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: Gothic on August 02, 2016, 05:21:27 PM
My first attempt used two 60uf 440 volt motor caps and 119volt DC Thu a bridge rectifier running on an inverter and a car battery. And I was fireing off 4 watt 120 volt light bulbs each second if that was for 12 volt batteries it would have been .33333 amps every other second .that's just a first attempt. Don Smith uses caps to an inverter . and runs a lot.

Thanks for sharing, it is appreciated. A word of caution "Don,t follow a leader" use your own intuition, it will serve you better.  ;)

Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 02, 2016, 09:01:24 PM
True but by looking at the group of our people Tesla don Smith bedini ect they all had several things in common which pointed to inductance charging Tesla with pulsing hi voltage DC generators and transmitted to a second unit with a earth ground connection. Pulling electrons from the earth with every transmitted POS pluse .don Smith same thing hi voltage DC pulsing radio wave connected to multiple units pulling electrons from the earth filling big caps then drawing off them with an inverter .then bedini using the hivoltage return spikes from pulse coils to fill caps then charge batteries the cells are like series chemical caps connected to earth ground . all DC pulsing with caps connected to ground. This set up just trims things down .no big mystery. It's physics.the energy can't help but come you couldn't stop it if you tired.now your attracting energy not working to get it.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: Gothic on August 03, 2016, 06:04:45 AM
Im looking into it a chip I think it was a 4212( i might be wrong) run by a 555 the first chip used
 as a sequential runner to switch a role of MOSFETs sequencely

You could try a neon relay setup like the one in this diagram-
 (ignore the right side and the inductors , it,s a mod of the original)

http://overunity.com/16603/motor-consumes-no-charge/msg484431/#msg484431

http://overunity.com/16603/motor-consumes-no-charge/dlattach/attach/157704/
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 03, 2016, 06:35:15 AM
More of a trigger than a sequencer I need to fire off one after the other or the blast from all the caps may blow the battery . I've found a LED sequencer on line for like 16 LEDs  but will need to be made to fire MOSFETs instead. Back to the salt mines .
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: scratchrobot on August 04, 2016, 10:27:45 AM
Seems that every thread has an actual OU device, only $49



Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: VMP100 on August 05, 2016, 03:37:42 PM
Hi if your interested there is a way but It will need some work. I showed this before . go look at the formula for a a string of capacitors in series you will see that the total is equal to the total divided by the number of caps. (All caps being equal in uf's) including the first cap.the charging cap put a positive charge on it and a earth ground on the last cap. And all the calls will generate equal charges.the first cap you will have to charge but the rest charge them selves. By inductance aka free.the more caps the less you have to charge to get the same results.

Pos-----l I------I I------ll------l l --------l l ------(earth ground)
(Applied.    Free. Free  free   free


Thanks Jimbo (and all).

Jimbo, can you make a diagram for this? I am trying to understand.

Which one of the capacitors should be charged? Or dosen't that matter?
Should one capacitor be pulsed for a short while with a diode in between?
Where can the load be placed on the Pos (left) and the right (Earth connection)?

Thanks for your reply in advance,

VMP

Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: memoryman on August 05, 2016, 03:55:33 PM
"Hi if your interested there is a way but It will need some work. I showed this before . go look at the formula for a a string of capacitors in series you will see that the total is equal to the total divided by the number of caps. (All caps being equal in uf's) including the first cap.the charging cap put a positive charge on it and a earth ground on the last cap. And all the calls will generate equal charges.the first cap you will have to charge but the rest charge them selves. By inductance aka free.the more caps the less you have to charge to get the same results.

Pos-----l I------I I------ll------l l --------l l ------(earth ground)
(Applied.    Free. Free  free   free "

This is pure b.s. That's why you see no product based out there based on this.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: VMP100 on August 05, 2016, 04:25:09 PM
Pos-----l I------I I------ll------l l --------l l ------(earth ground)
(Applied.    Free. Free  free   free "
This is pure b.s. That's why you see no product based out there based on this.

Memoryman, is there another easy OU device that you can recommend for a beginner to start with?

Solid state is fine too. Thanks.

VMP
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: memoryman on August 07, 2016, 09:41:11 PM
VMP, sadly there are no OU devices in existence. If you are interested in pursuing promising new energy sources (NOT OU), cavitation may be a start.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on August 28, 2016, 09:03:00 AM
Vmp look to string soild state devices    captret effect.  Real free energy with caps Thu inductance .there's more there page three has a diagram of two caps and switching . sorry about the delay. Jim
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU- Maybe my water battery.
Post by: stevensrd1 on July 14, 2018, 10:14:01 PM
The water battery can supply power for low current devices for many years. I run led lights, wall clocks and little motors on single water batteries. You can check out my vids on these and how I made them at https://www.youtube.com/stevensrd1 (https://www.youtube.com/stevensrd1) I have also started a fund raiser to try to improve the water battery more and sell some pre maid devices with a water battery. The fundraiser link is https://fundrazr.com/01KBhc?ref=tw_a77LPd_ab_1HvIRPZY9lI1HvIRPZY9lI (https://fundrazr.com/01KBhc?ref=tw_a77LPd_ab_1HvIRPZY9lI1HvIRPZY9lI)   I cant say its really over unity but you can wire many water batteries in series and recharge regular AA batteries with them, and do it many many times for years even all the while using the same water batteries to do it with. Is that over unity, who knows.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: memoryman on July 14, 2018, 11:40:08 PM
" pre maid " lol. Does the maid have to be a virgin?
AA is a size, not a type of battery. Alkaline batteries have very limited recharge capability.
Your device is certainly NOT OU.
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 15, 2018, 09:40:00 AM
Very sorry got this email and I'm here know .the idea of a cap string being OU is out there Ben Franklin talked about it and called it cascade charging .the old men of that time said there wasn't any increase in value .but I've read in physics on static induction cascade charging that to that to happen on severl caps in series each is becoming polarized by the charge on one end ..a strong charge is required positive and the other end connected to a good earth ground . now that being said .there's some things going on here that might be confusing ..one is you need a pretty hi voltage positive source I used a car coil .that pretty high..and the voltages are different in each cap due to some kind of shift in each cap. The capacitance in each is different do to being in the string ...I really don't know why .but it's there even n simulations.but that being said the physics people said that it's a one for one electron shift from one side of the caps due to the frount charge .one for one times like five caps .the frount charge pulls from the cap next to it to balance out the fource and there by butting the next cap out of Ballance .or polarizing it .this continues down the line to the end and that pulls from the ground .so here we are a string of polarized caps all charged ou p by the first plate .if it took a billion positrons on the first plate.is going to pull a billion electrons from the next plate to neutralize the charge .and all the other plates do the same .now how do you get the Energy out ? By shorting out each cap though something like a battery or another big cap ..the energy's there .I got up to five capspoping off there neons and shorting themselves out .but the color changes in some occasionally and it was wight with blue not yellow orange so I stopped .a little freaked out .there's great resistance in the cap string and capacitance changes in the strong so what to do ? Get much larger oil caps .and you got your capacitance back .voltage drives the pulling and has to go Thu all of them .in theory it should work .and mine was firing off those caps .and a change can't cross a cap or its a bad cap this is all electrostatic induction .or attraction .just like magnetic induction poloizes a piece of iron this polarized caps using one set of high voltage positive positrons that replicate in each cap .allso it's a little dangerous if you don't get that energy off before you reach the catistofic dialectic breakdown ...boom ..it's a land mine .so I use neons for earth and pull out energy at a lower level..you might get supper caps to work in a string but watch the voltage or boom .good luck..
Title: Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
Post by: jimbo on July 15, 2018, 09:50:09 AM
That's I use neons for safety one on each cap .and it you can't charge a cap a single cap with a positive one one end and the other to ground you wount charge more ..either your earth  grounds no good or you cap is they sometimes have bleed resistors in them .charge it up and see if it holds the charge .also a high impedance volt meter is good so you don't drain off power while checking on the voltage .