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jimbo

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Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2016, 11:42:21 PM »
Did you get that other post.   hay go home nothing here to see here move along .!Don't look here and don't you dare replicate . keep your head down are your chains to tight ? Well 50years I would of thought more of you if you had even tried to replicate  but that would be sacrilege to your religion .the Bible says a man who rejects a matter before hearing or gaining hands on knowledge is a fool. Don't be foolish.

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Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2016, 11:54:04 PM »
It's not pulling any thing from the ground  except for the last cap that's connected to ground there's really no current flowing Thu the caps each cap is responding to the front charge and regauging to it causing a polarizing of the caps and at that point you can remove the charge by shorting out the caps one by one . it's more impressive with 119 volts DC and 60 uf caps but yes I've done 12volts if you put a amp meter in the string you can see the current flowing than stop .all full up. Keep the cap sizes the same and don't exceed the voltage ratings and you should be safe. I got my caps on eBay for 11.00 apiece 60 uf@440 volts and with them I was lighting up 4 watt bulbs. Right not real no value no work .I was melting off the tip of my screw drivers with caps that can't possibly be getting a charge. Being blocked by several dialectics DC doesn't go Thu dialectics but the charge was there bang bang band over and over. This is something old school has over looked or are hiding . just trying to keep everyone in economic slavery except them. PS if you have trouble with your set up just let me know what you've done iwill try and get you up and running.

Jimbo,

Do you attach a long wire to the end cap, and the other end of the series caps to ground?  If so, perhaps you are collecting static electricity in the caps?

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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2016, 12:16:02 AM »
Sorry I got away from the parts list  not very much really just several caps maybe three so you will have one completely isolated (supposedly can't charge) then a good earth ground and a good DC positive source with complete isolation  hang the negative in the air not touching anything and an volt amp meter to put in line and check the various points of interest . things were diffrent with this circuit than I thought not like I was use to like I used two 60uf and 119 DC with a bridge diode with a car battery and an inverter all isolated .I hooked up the POS lead then turned on the inverter and watched the amp meter in series at the earth ground and let charge i shorted out the cap next to the ground with  a4 watt blub in line and big flash then I did the other cap big flash .then I tried flashing the same cap again and it was less brite I repeatedly shorted it and it stopped flashing all to gether .what had happened was each time I flashed the cap it was trying to repolerize from the POS source but couldn't because it needed to pull electrons from the second cap and it was at its end. So even with the POS connection it could not charge with out the other cap being incondion to do so. So I fired off the other cap and real big bang then the first cap recharged again. They have to fire off in sequence to work or they stop proving that is not a current flow Thu the string. As far as a parts list goes just do a hail Mary I only know what I used and with the meter in line I saw the current flow with 12volts .

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Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2016, 12:40:27 AM »
Someone please help me out. As I am still very very new to this.

Are there any ACTUAL working devices one can replicate on this forum?

These are free... more like antenna,s really.

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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2016, 12:45:48 AM »
Hi liberty  no ground was about 10 foot out and only two feet deep!   The POS line was about four ft long but setting next to me. Was the power box .I've been on line for weeks looking at everything related to this kind of charging trying to find a flaw any thing that would show me an mistake just something any thing but every were I looked I would find more and more confirmation of its working alot of it  on physics sites teaching on fundamentals of induction magnetic and electrostatic the magnetic ihad no use for you know that the first person I found who worked this was benfrankin he called it an economical way of charging lyenden jars! .people get lost in the goppely goup of the series formula which only addresses capacity but says nothing about the induction factor involved the charge cloning going on the caps regauging to there new i
Sercomstances  make it simple with a magnet the North or South Pole will induce a polarity in several nails it pics up each nail is a magnet now it may even retain it when separated from the source mag. But that's really not very useful but with a several caps it does the same thing but now when you short one out bang useful energy .then reloads it's self automatically !!!!. Clean and green as it can be. No solid state to fry with an solar flare no emp bom damage real good  stuff. Just get to work I wound to see blisters on ever finger.

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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2016, 12:50:13 AM »
Hi Gothic
Nice but you will need to feed off a radio wave source and be outside .with these caps you can be under water under ground or on Mars it makes no difference and is not dependent on any one completely stand alone .

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Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2016, 02:41:43 AM »
Hi liberty  no ground was about 10 foot out and only two feet deep!   The POS line was about four ft long but setting next to me. Was the power box .I've been on line for weeks looking at everything related to this kind of charging trying to find a flaw any thing that would show me an mistake just something any thing but every were I looked I would find more and more confirmation of its working alot of it  on physics sites teaching on fundamentals of induction magnetic and electrostatic the magnetic ihad no use for you know that the first person I found who worked this was benfrankin he called it an economical way of charging lyenden jars! .people get lost in the goppely goup of the series formula which only addresses capacity but says nothing about the induction factor involved the charge cloning going on the caps regauging to there new i
Sercomstances  make it simple with a magnet the North or South Pole will induce a polarity in several nails it pics up each nail is a magnet now it may even retain it when separated from the source mag. But that's really not very useful but with a several caps it does the same thing but now when you short one out bang useful energy .then reloads it's self automatically !!!!. Clean and green as it can be. No solid state to fry with an solar flare no emp bom damage real good  stuff. Just get to work I wound to see blisters on ever finger.

Jimbo,

Why don't you design a circuit to gate out the charge to a light or motor, possibly a capacitor which is hooked to this light or motor.  When the caps reach a top charge, have a transistor of some sort turn on and allow the power from the cap to discharge to your load.  Do this with each cap.  See if it will run a light or motor continually with out power input from any source that you supply.  At least show there is no current flow from the input to justify the output.  If it works, you will make people happy here.  Make a youtube video out of it to show people a working model.

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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2016, 08:38:22 AM »
Im looking into it a chip I think it was a 4212( i might be wrong) run by a 555 the first chip used as a sequential runner to switch a role of MOSFETs sequencely  .I'm a little tight on money right now so I'm working on a mechanical wheel switcher. And them there's the picking out the right power MOSFETs. What's hard about this device is that it's a pulser not easy to access power but looping it would stop the negative commentary. It's hot as hell here around 100 alot and no AC .I'm tired most of the time.so work is slow but that helps in deciding how to make it better the first time  more thought and less wrong creation..hay just run the series cap formula and that's been a standard for centuries. I found a RC calculator on line which if I use right should give me numbers on the series string caps relating to power I would have to put a cheat in it for the resistor value like a one. Give it a little time and I will get there.but if you use the series formula remember  that DC doesn't flow Thu any cap unless it's trashed .and each cap in the series has the same charge in electrons so the charge. Cap can only charge to the same level as the rest.but the capacitance does change and this give a different voltage reading on your meter.but when each is shorted there all the same. Jim out.

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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2016, 03:27:06 PM »
Hi,

your conecept is simular to this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGD9o7D4To8

Instead of the brass rod/coil you are using standard caps.
I tried this system also.
First with a coaxial cable instead of the rod/coil setup.

AC 220V --> Phase connect to copper core wire of coaxial cable (100m box) Other end of the core wire is insulated.

From Woven copper shield --> 4 Watt LED AC 220V --> Earth

Other end from Woven copper shield is insulated.
There is no electrical connection from Phase to Earth.

Result: The 4 Watt LED lights. Not very bright, but it lights.

The coaxial cable works in this case like a capacitor, so I replaced it with a standard cap for 250AC, and it works too, with better results.
The 4 Watt Bulb lights a little bit brighter.

I was using standard earth home connection and if I use more caps, my residual-current device acts!

I was asking an electrican, and he told me, thats because of the Leakage of the caps and that the earth connection is nothing else as the N-wire in this case.
So you "steel" some energy from the mains, until its so much current that the residual-current device acts.

I hope I did not make too many mistakes, English is not my main language.

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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2016, 04:32:43 PM »
Update:
I made the test again and a second test with 12V Battery and 300W 220AC Inverter instead of the AC mains direct.

With AC mains, the 4 Watt LED light as same as last time.
With battery/inverter setup the LED do not light. I only got 10V AC between woven copper shield and earth.
So I tried 12V LED 1Watt, and it light, but very very weak.

Update health:
One other point. Always when I do this experiments, I got a feeling in my legs, if I do longer it will be a slight pain!
I heard from other tester, similar feelings, and I know from one guy makeing tests with similar setups, that he has really big problems with one leg, now since some months!!!

mfg RoliK

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Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2016, 08:43:00 PM »
What jimbo and Rolik are describing can be done with the attached circuit.

It is a capacitive load on the 220 V mains (or 110 V mains) and you get away with it till your residual current circuit breaker trips at about 30 mA (at about 6 Watt). So, you could steel up to 6 Watt from the power company. I have seen 15 mA residual current circuit breakers in very recent installations, which cuts the steeling down to 3 Watt.

The long parallel wires act like a capacitor. Two or three capacitors in a row (as proposed by jimbo) do not help, they produce more losses.

This type of power steeling is known since the beginning of AC power distribution and comes up again and again in various disguises.

If you want to do it with DC, you have to switch the DC on and off rapidly (which will be the equivalent of a dirty AC).

Greetings, Conrad


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« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2016, 09:13:17 PM »
Yes, thats the configuration i had.
Instead of the mains I also tried a 30Kv, 150khz source.

I was able to light a 9w led 220ac. The curious thing was, that it works without earth. Only one wire connected to the bulb.
This phenomenon was only at some sort of led bulbs. Normal lights with 20W or more didn,t work.

Mfg


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« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2016, 01:01:17 AM »
Nice work guys try using a 4 watt light bulb LEDs will light on with the right conditions of voltage but a incondesant bulb needs volts and current. Like lighting a neon on the top of the sine wave light but no power.I'm sorry I'm not sure what your doing there will have to thank about it for a while. I just use DC with caps and ground and I live 2 miles from the power lines and 7 from water off grid it's called .I was thinking to myself to day and I think I'm grand standing . if you have a bedini charger that uses a cap load and dump you could read the uf and voltage off the cap and buy ,3 more just like it then put one in parallel with the original cap and put the other two together The same way then connect them in series with a good earth ground.you would need new switching for this to dump one after the other at the right timing. But this would double the out put .you need the extra caps because in series the cap values get cut in half so this would set things back to the original values and do same for second set of caps. Doubting your output is not bad and you should be ou. This is the smallest lay out I can think of and alot of people have his motors.you see you can't just add another cap and double you've got to double the capacitors capacitance.   Good hunting gentleman. Jim out

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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2016, 01:18:25 AM »
Hi guys
You know to really understand what I'm doing I mean if that's what you wount to do? You will have to leave the haloed halls of the first church of electronics and go to several web sites of physics and study the area of  electro static induction there's the information.     using electronic components as a vehicle to achieve the results is what's available. Just a tool. This is just a natural ocurning part of mater and charges. Then you will be on top of this .study it all as much as you can because no one site tells it all and some give out real jems of insite.     Jim out🎆