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Author Topic: Motor consumes no charge ?  (Read 20584 times)

Offline Dog-One

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Re: Motor consumes no charge ?
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2016, 11:42:55 AM »
@Dog-One -- Just curious.. How and where were you measuring the high-current spikes?

Originally by way of a filament bulb shunt on the output transformer using a high frequency current sense transformer inline.  This method has worked accurately for other measurements such as from an audio output amplifier, but is completely useless with this particular experiment.  As I mentioned, I can put 50 ohm terminators on the scope probe inputs (with probes completely removed) and still get single-shot impulse readings from four feet away.  In conventional terms this would be considered a highly "noisy" electrical environment.  I haven't found any way to shield the scope from seeing these impulses.

So you could say I'm getting false readings yes, but the simple fact I'm getting these readings at all tells me this experiment is by no means conventional and cannot be measured and evaluated in a typical fashion.  The other obvious approach is to use an analog current meter or light bulb, however the impulses are so sharp, a meter or bulb sees nothing.  It's a bit like chasing a ghost at the moment.  I know something is there, but how to get a picture of it...?    Very elusive.



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Re: Motor consumes no charge ?
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2016, 01:02:54 AM »
Hi folks, i had a thought to try after thinking about this thread topic.
Remember bedinis scalar charger, the one with two caps charged in parallel by a 12 volt battery and then discharged in series across the same battery.
Well, i rigged up a manual switch setup, using regular wall light switches, one single pole and the other a double pole or 3 way switch.
So i tied the two switches together, mechanically and when switches are thrown one way, it charges both 1.5 farad-12 volt capacitors with a 12 volt yard light bulb in line with each capacitor.
Then, when switches are thrown the other way, both capacitors are then in series with each other, with one 12 volt bulb in line and the series capacitors charges the battery with 24 volts or so.
So far, i manually switched for an hour and the results seem rather interesting.
The battery im using, is an exide, cutting edge 12 volt-235 cca.
Let me just say, so far, after lighting the bulbs dimly one way on switch throw and when caps are in series, one bulb is lighted brightly and the battery voltage is standing above what it was when i started, after 2 hours sitting.
will see what it settles to by morning.
peace love light

Hello Skywatcher  peruse to page 50 of this pdf where they were charging a capacitor by bringing it in close proximity to a incandescent bulb
 and charging it (of course they were using a tesla pancake setup)  something to experiment with, for what it,s worth,,,

Dog-One this guy is doing a "simplified setup" of a don zilano circuit, the noisy spark gap goes silent when he places a resistor on the bridge
 (about halfway through the video)


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Re: Motor consumes no charge ?
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2016, 12:35:30 AM »
O.K. having trouble cutting the aluminium rings, can,t get them flat enough to stack (yet), so I,m going
 to test this rig using stranded wire, standard power cord. i,m trying to saturate the two coils, which
 is then wrapped around the whole device with a negative charge and another separate wire which
 is wrapped around the device in a bifilar fashion (Black wire)  circ not done yet...

edit...  this resembles a helmholtz coil except with a static coil midway


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Re: Motor consumes no charge ?
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2016, 05:44:06 AM »
Flux Capacitor--- Yep a real device to interact with electrically
 induced displacement current...
excerpt from article...
"What are we to make of the experimental results presented here?
 on their face, they seem to be fairly straight-forward, reasonably
 complete case for the reality of Mach effect mass fluctuations
 and the possibility of producing thrust in flux capacitor systems.
 Further work will certainly show whether that is true. It is worth
 noting that since the Mach effect scales linearly with the frequency
 of the exciting signals when the power is held constant, the 2.5 kW
 power in the device used here activating a device operating at, say,
 100 MHz (with a comparable inductorcurrent amplitude) should produce
 on the order of 30,000 dynes (30 grams) of thrust. This may not seem
 very impressive, but it is enough, for example, to do International
 Space Station reboostwith a single device – without the need for
 one-time-use propellant. So, in addition to shedding light on the
 origin of inertia and elementary issues of momentum conservation in
 systems of this sort, flux capacitors may have a practical application
 too if their operation can be successfully scaled to sufficiently high
 frequencies and powers."
link to pdf...,d.dmo
Another interesting theory...
"Vacuum Holes as Cause of Gravitation and Inertia"
excerpt from article...
"According to the theory, the artificial holes could appear in
physical processes where particles disappear very quickly; for example, holes
could appear in nuclear processes, where a particle disappears quickly from
its previous position or leaves it. For example, there is a suspicion that
holes may appear at annihilation of particle–antiparticle pairs, decays and
inelastic scattering of the particles."
link to pdf...,d.dmo


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Re: Motor consumes no charge ?
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2016, 09:03:31 PM »
Another excerpt from vacuum holes as cause of gravitation and inertia

"The hole theory of gravitation requires only a hypothesis about the
 existence of holes in quantized space-time. An intriguing prediction of
 various theories of quantum gravity and black hole physics is the
 existence of a minimum measurable length. Imagine that space consists of
 indivisible space cells or elementary virtual volumes dV which appear
 and disappear continually. Let us notice that, if a dV vanishes then instead
 a “vacant place” appears that does not possess the properties of space-time.
 What properties such vacant place could have?"

"Since it is a void or absolute vacuum, after appearance a hole must
 be filled quickly by surrounding particles (by elementary particles and
 space cells dV ). Since the speed of motion of these real particles is
 limited by the speed of light, consequently the environment cannot fill
 a hole instantaneously. It means that the hole’s lifetime is non-zero
 dT > 0. Thus, holes may really exist if space-time is made of virtual
 elementary volumes dV which appear and disappear continually."

"Holes are able to move in space-time in the same way as holes in electric
 current, where electrons move in one direction and the holes move in
 opposite direction."

Which is consistent with Beardons theory of a virtual particle flux




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Re: Motor consumes no charge ?
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2016, 12:06:42 AM »
This is off topic but still relevant. I like to look through manuals of
 old (and new) general mechanisms that are proven to function as was
 their original intent. Therefore no guesswork or R&D needed (Which is
 time consuming and expensive), just "here is the device" and "this is
 the working theory".   

A couple of items "the syncrotech motor" and a diagram of a d.c. 
 wattmeter. It,s the working principle that helps to further understand
 the mechanics of what is...
syncrotech is found in this pdf along with numerous other devices
d.c. wattmeter is found in this pdf along with numerous other devices
the syncrotech is a little bit similiar to this youtube video being that
 there is a permanent magnetic field perpendicular to the working field.


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Re: Motor consumes no charge ?
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2016, 12:53:52 AM »
Been looking at DIY electrostatic speakers and how displacement current might play a role.

Edit: if nothing else, they are worth building simply for the realistic sound production 8)