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Author Topic: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance  (Read 50701 times)

jimbo

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #75 on: December 23, 2016, 01:48:58 AM »
That's the problem the caps fire off the neons randomly .a pic in action and do the math at the point of freeze .it's strange like trying to corral cats.everything is interrelated . battery's are about 50% efficient that's why  five caps.with two you should break even you need more to go OU  look at it like this you got a source  of POS and neg of elevated voltage u put a large cap on each  u put them to earth ground (on the same line !!) Each pulls there opposite counter part till they balance out .say you have a million positrons on source of one cap and the same on the neg .the earth will populate the other side of the caps.you have doubled what you have right there . your OU now 100% but the battery needs that to remain at zero sum being 50% effective. If that alone could be recaptured and reinvested your at four times what a single cap would do.   Hay watch out for internal resistors in your caps try changing one to ground first.to see if you have things right if you can't try another ground or cap because that's all there is to the system if you can't no need to continue till you get that working. Might USD the house ground on the wall outlet. Or the ground cable covering it's a good one runs all over town multiple earth points.Jim out.if you don't have one try pounding a steel rebarb in the ground and pulling it out add a half of a pound of salt put back mix water and the rest of the salt and use to wash the rod in .go for at least four ft more is better more rods better. The salt helps a lot.I'm gone jim

jimbo

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #76 on: December 23, 2016, 01:52:45 AM »
That earth cable covering is the phone line not the wires .

skycollection 1

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #77 on: December 24, 2016, 03:09:28 AM »
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THRU INDUCTANCE....!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtVlNj0K2kU
SALUDOS FROM MEXICO, JORGE REBOLLEDO.

jimbo

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #78 on: December 24, 2016, 04:44:20 AM »
Hi
Your down there in Mexico ? There's some collage students who interded an electric bike contest   Walker   I think there at a university  the bike recharges so well it never stops !! Can you look into it see how there progressing ?? Or went missing

Tesluh

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #79 on: February 17, 2017, 05:08:04 PM »
Hello Jim, do you think this schematic would charge as you suggest, using much less energy to charge than would be stored in the capacitors.  This is the same as your drawing without the swing switch and amp meter.  I could connect this circuit in less time than it took to write this post, but I am careful to work with these capacitors I have as they are very large and dangerous.

dieter

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #80 on: February 17, 2017, 06:10:39 PM »
Not antenna, but simply not used.


Long time ago, AC mains was just one wire, plus ground. This worked, but was a big waste. Bow instead we use the "neutral" wire that gies back to the power company. Depending in your power factor, you may pay too much or too little for your electricity, because we are charged an average flatrate of power factor, or of being "in phase".


But that doesn't mean your concept must be UU or COP<=1.


Just saying, any AC can be used (whether rectified or not) to connect to earth.


Just measure the V*A=W that flows from the battery to the inverter.


You can also run the inverter with a strong Computer power supply from mains, then use a Watt meter.

jimbo

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #81 on: February 17, 2017, 06:30:43 PM »
Hi tesluh
Can't read the diagram    format not supported .sorry I might need an new app .what format is it if you can tell ? Been looking at using MOSFETs to do the cap dumping and using a photo translater with a neon to trigger at 90 volts the neon would have a big value resistor in series with it for limiting the current loss and just light up at 90 volts to signal the photo transistor there by trigining the MOSFET .then everything would reset. Your right about the danger !!! But so is getting out of bed if you don't watch your self. I can't post any pics right now camera broken. Jim

jimbo

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #82 on: February 17, 2017, 06:39:42 PM »
Hi Dieter
Sorry don't understand what your referring to  can you make it clearer ? Thanks for your consideration.

dieter

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #83 on: February 17, 2017, 06:43:31 PM »
BTW. I hate to rain on anybodies parade, but we all must seek truth and confirmed facts. Therefor I invite anyone to rain on MY parade and convince me that I'm wrong, if anybody can, see here:
http://overunity.com/17116/searching-for-buddy-in-promising-magnet-motor-project/msg500202/#new


Not trying to hijack this thread, just curious why the the disprovers don't disprove ME... :)

dieter

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #84 on: February 17, 2017, 06:57:37 PM »
@ Jim,


using only one wire of AC with earth does not mean there comes no energy from the inverter. It does not matter whether it is rectified AC (=rippled DC) or normal AC.


But maybe I misunderstood your concept.


I do believe that you can pull energy out of the ground, eg. by high back emf spikes, that literarly are pulling electrons out of the earth, esp. with a large contact surface. As you seem to interrupt the cirquit for the blinking thing, you may have such a back emf, that could be a factor.


Also notice lightbulbs are brighter with a higher voltage, even if the Watts go down because the amps went down more than the volts went up.


Example: 100V and 0.1 Amp lightbulb is brighter than with 50V at 0.2 A. But of course the AC frequency and waveform must be altered to change the Amps from 0.1 to 0.2 with the same lightbulb...


Or, if you reduce duty cycle, but increase Voltage, it will also be brighter.

jimbo

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #85 on: February 17, 2017, 07:09:54 PM »
Hello dieter
Sorry not really interested in it do some more bench. Work and post more results  to move your point forward. A better approach is  spintronics just make a box with one end open and the other end with a small hole the only rules are all out side parts in the small hole area must be North the inside of box north  no South exposed to the small hole area .then stack a set of small neo's together to make a rod with a North and South end and then put the North into the hole with a tube like a straw .North exposed to North doesn't make sense but it sucks it in and out the other end fast!!.now design a motor with this .arrangement.



dieter

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #86 on: February 17, 2017, 07:16:37 PM »
You didn't have to go off topic, but thanks.


I see you have an amp meter, and I guess you also have a volt meter. Just measure volts (well I guess about 12 to 13) and Amps (in serial between battery and inverter), then multiply and tell us.


Also compare this to a situation in which you use the negative inverter output instead of the earth connection. Is it more or less?

jimbo

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #87 on: February 17, 2017, 07:49:46 PM »
Hello dieter
This tec is very old . was used on lyenden jars a precursor to modern caps .the trick is elevated voltages .or potential in other words it's a proven system .the early American father's used it to charge the jars aka caps my take on this is when the caps are in a series like three or four the isolated caps charge by the potential of there environment .just adjusting to the new conditions there trapped into.they become polarized like a battery then I steal the charges from them. A Similitude is a string of nails touching a magnet each mail becomes polarized or magnified but nothing there to extract .or use both use inductance.to achieve the results. A billion hivoltage protons will a tract a billion electrons from the environment earth ground the best.I'm pumping out energy from the earth .or if you get a hold of the ground end you!. .good luck with your work. Ps this works just as well with hivoltage negitve.so from one source a hivoltage POS and neg you can double your energy.it's physics.

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #88 on: February 17, 2017, 08:24:04 PM »
Good to see this thread getting some discussion, Jim, my schematic was the same as yours minus the ampmeter and swing switch.  Basically asking if either had a purpose in the circuit other than to measure current or discharge the caps.  Hoping to simply charge the 4 caps first then figure out the best way to use that charge.

dieter

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #89 on: February 17, 2017, 08:24:55 PM »
Thanks, seems like I better take a closer look at this old technology then.