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Author Topic: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance  (Read 27057 times)

Offline jimbo

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2016, 02:23:42 AM »
Thank you magnaProp for the diagram looks good you did fine work .I'm a little new to this stuff .the blub is 4 to 7 Watts 120 volts you get like 5 to a PAC at Walmart cheap !!. The neon is standard 100 volt elchepo.Jim out🍺

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #61 on: May 12, 2016, 02:47:02 AM »
Fatbird your missing what's going on yes the caps are being discharged Thu the bulb I'm just showing that's there is power were conventional thinking doesn't go . it's in the caps that power is being birthed or cloned
The more caps the higher the voltage the better the ground the faster the switching the better .after the first plate in the first cap it's all free andits what you do with it is up to you.the more caps the more free because the charge on the first plate is reduced. But it all still is no greater than single cap charge but if those cap are big.then you have a big charge for less and less  Thur multiple caps with 4 caps your paying for one plate.and charging 7 free but because you can't separate out that one plate you have 3 caps going some place else.
So if you use the negative too then you have the equilivilent of one cap you pay for and six free. Good hunting. Jim out🍺

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #62 on: May 13, 2016, 04:04:38 AM »
Hi folks, Hi jimbo, thanks for sharing.
I have not made a test of your setup, though i did throw together some 25v-2200uf electrolytic caps. in series and then used a 1.2v input, small joule thief, charging caps with flyback.
Though i only used one wire and an avramenko diode plug and it charged the capacitors, though it only started charging them when i connected the other output wire to a large piece of metal or holding it in hand.
Do you know if your setup can accomplish the same thing using a virtual ground or large piece of metal as antenna.
peace love light

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #62 on: May 13, 2016, 04:04:38 AM »
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Offline jimbo

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #63 on: May 13, 2016, 05:03:31 AM »
Most likely don Smith used earth grounds and he said this could be used on airplanes by using the hull .it's just that the earth is so big it works well ! This could be used to run the ion engines to mars.using the hull.then for life support on Mars. Just purchased more caps. James up till then Jim out🍺

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #64 on: May 13, 2016, 05:10:44 AM »
Skywatcher123 amp up you game raise your voltage keep your uf's the same or could go bang if you have a land line the outer ground shelf is a good earth ground it's connected all around the town. For miles with many ground points. Not the wires the outer shielding ground.good hunting Jim out🍺

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Offline skycollection

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2016, 05:36:37 PM »
Thru inductance....?         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3NioI-m5EM

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #66 on: May 13, 2016, 07:33:38 PM »
Electrostatic induction induction or inductance comes from the wording to induced as in one charge induces another charge .every body seam to only think it means coils but coils were the second place it was found the first place was with electrostatic works like with the electrostatic induction generators like the Swiss ml generator.goes right back to the first works with charge's. Magnets induce magnetism in iron making more magnets but you have limited use there.but electrostatic energy will induce an electrostatic charge just by being close to another object and if you can capture it that can be put to work right away.! Your cloning the charge by proximity. A free lunch . why use magnets then have to convert flux lines to electricity by hard work when you can get the electricity directly by just being close to it. Sounds kind of convoluted to me. Going around the block just to get back to were you were in the first place! Da? Jim out 👍

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Offline Magneticitist

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #67 on: May 13, 2016, 07:49:11 PM »
yea but then the problem I see lies in the fact
that you are outputting a high enough voltage
from the transformer in your 12v inverter to make
all this happen, and that transformer is using
mutual induction, not pulling charge straight from
the air, but from a battery.

Just curious mainly about that circuit. If we're
talking some super efficient inverter that is meant
for low current applications and happens to run idle
at a super low current, then I can see the basis
for some kind of overunity claim. If it's pulling
a couple hundred mA or more then I'd think
what you are getting in pulses from those caps isn't
much of a recoop. but then I really can't tell without
at least some kind of video or something..
I just know I've basically practiced this same setup
many times whilst trying to '1-wire charge' a lot of
caps and batteries from a HV source.

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #68 on: May 13, 2016, 08:32:57 PM »
The inverter is just a charge  source the cap string is were the efficiency is Thu electrostatic induction from the first plate in the first cap .the more caps the smaller the charge on the first plate and the more induced induced energy in the rest of the caps. I'm thinking what would a small vandgraft generator on a bedini device  that runs free on its on .produce with this set up with Hi voltage  caps like saltwater caps or Leyden jars or 5gal bucket death caps .but run motor caps for now. Jim out 👍

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2016, 03:44:31 AM »
Jim, Have you made any progress on this device?  Have any photos to share?  I am researching some Don Smith devices that involve charging a capacitor and many of the concepts overlap with what you are describing.  Is the lightbulb and "swinging switch wire" required or are they just to demonstrate that there is energy in the caps?  How do you extract the energy from the caps while the system is all connected? 

I have most of these parts laying around so if I had a better grasp on what needs to be done I would consider wiring it up and seeing what happens.

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2016, 06:34:46 PM »
Tesluh
The swinging switch is just to release the energy .I've changed that to a neon they fire at 90 volts .I now use a Variac and a car high voltage coil with a diode . with a good earth ground . I think I might have seen something the last time .I put in four new grounds and put a meter between a positive on a 12 volt battery and got a reading     didn't happen with only one.  Better I think.   I was able to fire off 5 neons over 5 caps  with the new set up didn't go to 6 got nervous ! It's random firing on each neon.star low on the Variac and adjust up.put something over the caps in case one of the neons gets loose   boom!!!  The voltage can rise above the caps self destruct level it's like a land mine. I'm trying to work out a way to get a real good set up to measure the in and out of the system .its a random pulsing not easy to do a reading .using 5 caps I have 3 totally isolated from the charging energy aka not connected yet there charging just like the rest and the one on the positive source end only discharges what's in the cap.   Unless you short it to ground .nothing is flowing Thu the system just potential. The plate on the first cap charge's to full and the rest just adjust to match electron to proton each robing from the one next to it charging the string . the higher voltage just quicken the charging .just Watch out!!! With that .

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2016, 07:04:51 PM »
What is the load are you powering with this device?
what is the purpose of the neon bulb?  is it some sort of draw to cause energy to flow?


If there is any way I could figure out exactly how to duplicate the effect you are creating I could try it and add to your description.  I have 4 car battery sized capacitors (10uf @4kvdc) that would work perfect for this experiment.

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2016, 07:07:09 PM »
could a safety spark gap be used somehow to prevent over-voltage in the caps?

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2016, 07:47:58 PM »
The neons are the spark gap.    voltages to low for open air gap. Need higher voltages use more neons in series .the neons don't let the hivoltage from the car coil get past 90volts the caps are 450  volt area. For safety .no load just the 4watt bulbs I've set A-side for now.just trying to come up with a way to measure the ins and out of the system for now .like a volt meter on each cap and an amp meter on the inverter. Might do it. ,1 neon with a 4watt blub might give you enough time to get readings from the five voltage meters and the one amp meter but a video might be better to capture in real time all the meters at once freeze frame. Time line do math decern  energy involved. Hard to deal with can only read so many meters at once !need recording. Jim out

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Re: real free energy with capacitors thru inductance
« Reply #74 on: December 22, 2016, 08:41:29 PM »
Thank you,
I dont think you need extreme measuring equipment, you have a battery eventually going to ground (yes i understand this is an open system but basically you aren't connecting to mains power) so really as long as you can maintain or increase charge in the battery and power a load you have collected excess from the ambient on the remaining capacitor plates.  That would be relatively easy to display, its hard to trust meters when working with some of these devices.  Higher voltage and maybe higher frequency could only help from what I can tell.  I am tempted to try this and see what happens, just trying to study it first to make sure its safe and worthwhile. 

Once you have the caps charged, what happens if you disconnect them?  how long do they take to run down? 

what is the draw on the battery while it's running, minimal?

 

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