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Title: Random Builds
Post by: Gothic on May 04, 2016, 06:04:47 PM
Man it will take years to search these forums and can,t  find a place to put this, so i,ll start this thread. 
 feel free to post a build, working or not...

 Got this from somewhere on the web while looking up methods
 of finding inductance for series connected toroid trans.
 
5.22. Magnesy,z.(Fig.10).--This is a position-repeating motor system, 
but its theory is some-what involved. It is described in a published 
article by Childs 10 (1944). It is based on the principle of producing 
harmonic voltages in a saturated reactor. Such a device is often used 
as a frequency doubler, and early forms operating in conjunction with 
the Earth's field were called "flux gates" It was reasoned that, if 
with a flux gate a fundamental a.c. flux in combination with a 
uni-directional flux would produce an even harmonic a.c. flux, then 
the combination of a fundamental with an even harmonic a.c. flux would 
result in a uni-directional field. This is the basic principle of 
the Magnesyn remote indicating system. 
 
or google Magnesyn remote indicating compass
 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjz2dOO28DMAhWKGD4KHefND7YQFggjMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnaca.central.cranfield.ac.uk%2Freports%2Farc%2Frm%2F2199.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEpsb-uNYF_NyB8m8tXITxkDQwQGw&bvm=bv.121099550,d.cWw
 
It seems that the indicator  element is always at 90 degrees from the sense element
 when (I assume) a sine at 400 hz is applied between A and  B of both elements.
Something else interesting is the  frequency doubles at points C and D, if so, could
 that higher freq be fed back to the original sig so that  you would have a 400 + an 800
 hz sig after the first cycle  then 400 + 800 + 1600 the next etc... an exponential rise
 in frequency.

Another thing about this setup is it resembles a gramm
 generator, (actually two, pic below) so possible dc voltage
 generation with a sinusoidal noise element.
 
The question is If the elements were stacked vertically,
 the magnets in the mid replaced with virtual magnetic
 fields, would they be forever trying to align themselves up?
 but due to the nature of the circuit they can not, essentially
 pushing and pulling itself in an endless loop?
 
Don,t know, think I,ll build one and tool it out, got 
 nothing better to do.
   
also checkout this patent pending "Double Helix" wound
coil from the folks at AML Superconductivity and Magnetics. 
 Here is a link to their website if your interested.
http://amlsuperconductivity.com/capabilities/technology/

I,ll bump this post as the build progresses
Title: Re: Random Builds
Post by: Gothic on May 08, 2016, 01:54:20 AM
I,m going to use a differential amplifier for the signal mixing,  i,m using a potentiometer
 at the positive junction of the voltage divider / input (not shown in pic)

can i edit my original post?  if so P.M. how    thanks   
Title: Re: Random Builds
Post by: Gothic on May 09, 2016, 09:21:52 AM
need a break from the monotony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlX5e0Eh3wk
 some of these are quite good
Title: Re: Random Builds
Post by: seychelles on May 09, 2016, 04:57:38 PM
Just something to chew on guys.. good luck..
Title: Re: Random Builds
Post by: Gothic on May 11, 2016, 11:58:45 PM
NASA document "Advanced Energetics for Aeronautical Applications: Volume II"
Title: Re: Random Builds
Post by: Gothic on May 16, 2016, 04:28:18 AM
Here is my attempt... but being that my parts bin consists
 of a Desoldering iron and scrap circuit boards. The O-Scope
 is a sound card input with software, the results aren,t 
 accurate or reliable. 
 
I,ll mothball this one until better equipment comes my way...
 I quess the point of this was to heterodyne multiple signals
 and every successive pass will create a higher harmonic until
 the core saturates and "something" might happen? Don,t know
 until one tries.