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Offline hoptoad

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Don´t you think the moderator and the experts in the TV there watching it, wouldn´t have smelled the alcohol ?

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Methanol has such a low odor that it is generally described as odorless.

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Here are some pictures of his new reactor:

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More pics:

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Methanol has such a low odor that it is generally described as odorless.

Stop the bullshit, he is not using Methanol... Didn´t you see, when he filled in the seawater into his reactor ??

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Stop the bullshit, he is not using Methanol... Didn´t you see, when he filled in the seawater into his reactor ??
Try filling any container with the same width open aperture as the test tube he is using with hydrogen and light it. It doesn't burn with a slowly wavering flame, it explodes. That's why hydrogen is always forced through a narrow aperture, and for safety will always have a backflow preventer in the supply line, even when it is pure hydrogen being delivered (no oxygen in the tube).

I've worked with hydrogen and it doesn't burn gently with a wavering flame through large open apertures. It will always 'pop' with an explosion. Only a small aperture jet with a substantial expulsion pressure can be used safely for burning hydrogen. If there is not enough expulsion pressure, back flash will occur, and an explosion will follow.

As for   " Didn´t you see, when he filled in the seawater into his reactor ?? ", the reactor container he pours it into is opaque, not transparent, so you have no idea what is already in the container and how much fluid the container can hold.

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Pomodoro,

what about this picture ( on the same website ) ? There seems to always be some orange colour there.

I think the clear almost unvisible flame only appears at high gas-velocity of a burner

But of course,  in the other video-demonstration he is using salt-water

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Kator01

Hi Kator, have a good read of the attached file and see if it changes your opinion.
Cheers

Pomo  :D


I'm convinced that the test tube experiment is fake, 100% and in the future the invention  will be hailed as another marvel that was suppressed by greedy governments, when in reality, it was BS.  No more from me on this topic,  just be cautions people...

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Here is the abstract from his Greek patent application:
GR1007830 (B) ― 2013-02-13
"METHOD AND DEVICE FOR WATER ELECTROLYSIS AND PRODUCTION OF HYDROGEN TO BE USED AS COMBUSTIBLE UPON UTILISATION OF COMBINED FREQUENCIES"

Novelty: There are disclosed a method and a device destined for water electrolysis and production of hydrogen to be used as combustible by combination of high frequencies produced by semitonic oscillators; when mixed, reinforced and combined, said frequencies contrive to break water into its elements (hydrogen and oxygen) upon influence of the coordination effect. Secondary frequencies configurating the structure of the primary frequencies for obtaining adequately-combined frequencies by means of the respective electronic circuit composed of an isolator, a mixer, a directional coupler, a multiplier, configurators, digital frequency controllers, and linear amplifiers can be introduced with the assistance of adequate main and auxiliary treatment equipments into the primary frequencies produced by the semitonic oscillators. The vibration of water molecules and the breaking thereof into hydrogen and oxygen are obtained by suitably-coordinated frequencies. The gases are, thereafter, separated by special sorting guides while the produced hydrogen is conducted through the respective specific connection to the energy generation mechanism for being used as fuel.
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GR1007830 (B)

Based on the abstract and the block diagram from the patent application, it sounds like it is no
simple device to try to replicate. :)

I only want to remind you of the US Patent 7,378,063 B1 Walter Eugene Wyles :
Radio Frequency Hydrogen and Oxygen Generator Method
, where the heterodyning effect of two frequencies : 120 MHz and 720 MHz is used to split
water and generate HHO.
Peter Painter uses the same effect.
By heterodyning you can consider 720 MHz as the carrier frequency with two sidebands :
600 and 840 MHZ (AM-Modulation) Maybe other frequencies are also involved too, due to
non-linearities in the semiconductors.
I consider the metal plate as a catalyst. The heterodyning - electrolysis method is now
beeing used in at least 2 patents.



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Interesting patent, it nearly had me believing  ::) but I laughed when I read the part about easily separating hydrogen from oxygen because hydrogen floats above oxygen due to its density being 16 times lighter!! The inventor has obviously never built the device and thinks that oxygen and hydrogen are immiscible!! ;D  THWACK! The mega fatal blow that destroyed all credibility.

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@ Cell & Promodoro


One more of the few posts I make here.


1.   The patent is "not W.E.Wyles" even though legally it is (I think that he possibly now is not alive, he was in his 80's I believe when a friend of mine visited him some years ago in a condo in Florida). The drawings infact are a direct copy of an original which is 95% the same, (he is not the inventer). This was demonstrated back in 1989 in the UK, and there are still some witnesses alive today.


2.   Mr Wyles was a radar operator in the US Navy I was told, he knows nothing of the system of the patent, he was/ is just a holder of the patent.


3.   I will not go into anymore on this so don't ask, I will say though that it does work but a bitch to maintain stability, people in the art of RF design could probably find the right solution to the stability, a friend of mine did, he was the son of the inventer of SSB and lived in my town in the UK, that will give you a broad clue, he has now passed away, and I'm not to his standard of RF design.


4.   I have attempted to bring this alive again over the years, after a 10 year agreement, let me tell you agreements are worth nothing at this level. there are other means of creating cheap hydrogen which will be given free of charge, it has already started.


5.   I have on the net references to all this since 1999, the patent is 2008, I even gave a small lecture at a conference on this, Chet knows a little of the history.


6.   This creates wide band "TVI" as we say, and would have to be in a shielded reactor as was drawn in the patent.


@ The Cell


He did live near you, if you don't believe me, why not make a visit, though I think he is now dead or in his 90's!!!!! anyway there are other ways of skining the cat, Ghz or Thz are not needed.


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I've worked with hydrogen and it doesn't burn gently with a wavering flame through large open apertures. It will always 'pop' with an explosion.

You are quite wrong.

Look at this how pure hydrogen burns and compare this with the Zografos flame.
https://youtu.be/OQ-oFO_TFOw?t=3m15s
The yellow flame comes from Natrium or Carbon ions impurities in the H2 gas or here in this video from
the burning plastic tube and its Carbon content....

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You are quite wrong.

Look at this how pure hydrogen burns and compare this with the Zografos flame.
https://youtu.be/OQ-oFO_TFOw?t=3m15s
The yellow flame comes from Natrium or Carbon ions impurities in the H2 gas or here in this video from
the burning plastic tube and its Carbon content....


I agree and, I always burn methanol in my alcohol cooking stoves and it burns with a nice blue flame so, there is no way that is methanol.


Those folks in that video are idiots I think.  If any of that burning/melting plastic fell onto that bag, the whole bag would have went up probably at least burning off their hair and maybe worse.


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Stop the bullshit, he is not using Methanol... Didn´t you see, when he filled in the seawater into his reactor??

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I see flex waveguide, some flanges, some aluminium components ive seen before.

Company I work for makes stuff like that, what sucks is that they have specific dimensions for a given frequency range and are specially machined for that frequency

Not replicable, he would have to give out more info.

He is probably an RF designer, these guys use simulation software like RF studio, he probably roughed out his idea using software then bought exactly the components he deemed necessary.

Just that bend right there, plays a filtering role.




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Hey pomodoro,

thanks for this paper ! Havn´t had the time to read it.

Now lets assume that he is able to split water by the combination of a metal ( cerium ? ) with rf-frequencies than this rf-oscillator ( horn-antenna ) must use the standard WLAN-frequencies, but he can not expect the regulatory agency for electromagnetic
waves to approve his device especially if he uses an impuls-mode which implies harmonics up to the 50 th at least which interfere
( broad-band )with other communication-bands. So it is my guess that the world will no see this technique. anyway.
So this technique is dead from the start, IMHO

Regards

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Hey pomodoro,

thanks for this paper ! Havn´t had the time to read it.

Now lets assume that he is able to split water by the combination of a metal ( cerium ? ) with rf-frequencies than this rf-oscillator ( horn-antenna ) must use the standard WLAN-frequencies, but he can not expect the regulatory agency for electromagnetic
waves to approve his device especially if he uses an impuls-mode which implies harmonics up to the 50 th at least which interfere
( broad-band )with other communication-bands. So it is my guess that the world will no see this technique. anyway.
So this technique is dead from the start, IMHO

Regards

Kator01

The entire unit could be shielded in a Faraday cage type of container.

Bill

 

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