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Offline Void

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Here is the abstract from his Greek patent application:
GR1007830 (B) ― 2013-02-13
"METHOD AND DEVICE FOR WATER ELECTROLYSIS AND PRODUCTION OF HYDROGEN TO BE USED AS COMBUSTIBLE UPON UTILISATION OF COMBINED FREQUENCIES"

Novelty: There are disclosed a method and a device destined for water electrolysis and production of hydrogen to be used as combustible by combination of high frequencies produced by semitonic oscillators; when mixed, reinforced and combined, said frequencies contrive to break water into its elements (hydrogen and oxygen) upon influence of the coordination effect. Secondary frequencies configurating the structure of the primary frequencies for obtaining adequately-combined frequencies by means of the respective electronic circuit composed of an isolator, a mixer, a directional coupler, a multiplier, configurators, digital frequency controllers, and linear amplifiers can be introduced with the assistance of adequate main and auxiliary treatment equipments into the primary frequencies produced by the semitonic oscillators. The vibration of water molecules and the breaking thereof into hydrogen and oxygen are obtained by suitably-coordinated frequencies. The gases are, thereafter, separated by special sorting guides while the produced hydrogen is conducted through the respective specific connection to the energy generation mechanism for being used as fuel.
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GR1007830 (B)

Based on the abstract and the block diagram from the patent application, it sounds like it is no
simple device to try to replicate. :)

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Offline truesearch

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@Void:


Thanks for tracking that info down ~ I stumbled around on his website but google-translate can only do so much to help  :)


To Bad on the complicated design, I was HOPING for a D-I-Y project . . .


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Offline Void

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This same guy, Petros Zografos, shows some other non hydrogen from water generator devices on
his website and in some of his videos. I am not sure if any of them are supposed to be OU, but one
was some sort of generator/alternator which he demonstrated by rotating the generator rotor with a
drill, and another contraption is meant for poor people who live in third world countries who don't have any access
to electricity. This generator device uses a weight on a chain to slowly turn a bicycle wheel which in turns drives a
generator and produces electricity. You have to keep lifting the weight when it reaches the floor to keep the generator going,
but for people who don't have access to electricity, it could be used to maybe charge batteries.
It seems to me a solar panel based battery charger would be more practical however, except in areas where they have little
sunlight. :)

New patent of Petros Zografos allows inexpensive production of electricity in every home!
link to web page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNNq9td5Rpk


Generator converts gravitational energy into electricity
link to web page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtljPQrmU3c

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Offline pomodoro

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... The gases are, thereafter, separated by special sorting guides while the produced hydrogen is conducted through the respective specific connection to the energy generation mechanism for being used as fuel. :)
The test tube prop on his video had no means of separating oxygen from hydrogen , yet we can tell from the flame that there was no stochiometric amount of oxygen in there. More BS from Mr. Painter.

Offline Kator01

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Hi,

go to minute 9 and tell me the color of pure hydrogen burning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAkx6-PufDA

Picture attached is from a german chemitry website

http://www.seilnacht.com/versuche/experih2.html

Regards

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The video shows some yellow from the hydrocarbon flame being swept away. The photo is red because the glass is hot and turning red/yellow from the sodium and the heat.

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The test tube prop on his video had no means of separating oxygen from hydrogen , yet we can tell from the flame that there was no stochiometric amount of oxygen in there. More BS from Mr. Painter.
Probably the oxygen is used up in oxidizing the metal plate.
Compare this with the John Kanzius device from 2007. There was also not much oxygen coming out from the saltwater....

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Here is a new video I just made from the basic effect showing the Microwave pulse generator and a glas test tube with the metal
alloy in it with saltwater and the pretty big hydrogen flame coming out of it.

This will change everything !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE6k5eOJ4e8

Enjoy !

Regards, Stefan.

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Stefan:

Nice job on the video.  Now that I have watched it more closely with your commentary, I have to say that this probably can not be alcohol burning in that tube as it goes out when he removes the tube from the funnel...and, it goes out once again when he unplugs the power supply.  If it were alcohol, it seems to me it would have continued to burn in both cases.

I really hope this is real as it would be a huge break through.  If we can learn what frequencies he is using, perhaps we might be able to make some replications?

Bill

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Offline pomodoro

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Stefan:

Nice job on the video.  Now that I have watched it more closely with your commentary, I have to say that this probably can not be alcohol burning in that tube as it goes out when he removes the tube from the funnel...and, it goes out once again when he unplugs the power supply.  If it were alcohol, it seems to me it would have continued to burn in both cases.

I really hope this is real as it would be a huge break through.  If we can learn what frequencies he is using, perhaps we might be able to make some replications?

Bill
As I mention before, the methanol is dissolved in water. It only burns while being boiled out.

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This looks like great technology.

Hope burning the mercury content in our oceans water won't cause as much of a problem as current fossil fuel pollution. On the plus side, current global warming is causing a lot of methane to escape in Siberia's oceans where the undersea permafrost is melting. Might get an extra boost from that in the water. On a side note, I just learned that abu dhabi runs out of ground water in 50 years.

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Probably the oxygen is used up in oxidizing the metal plate.
If that metal plate binds the oxygen, then it is not a catalyst but a reagent ...and the energy cost of its production needs to be factored into the OUT/IN energy ratio of the device.

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I have just replicated the test tube experiment with methanol (1 carbon) and isopropanol (3 carbons). I simply heated a few mls of the alcohol in a test tube with a heat gun and lit the boiling vapor. Methanol buns clean with no yellow, isoprop is very yellow. I don't at the moment have ethanol (2 carbons) to try. When I stop the boiling by turning off the gun, the flame goes out. So this dude is probably using plain alcohol which is ethanol, but I can't say for sure until I try it.  If you want to do this, do put some pieces of smashed ceramic in the tube to stop dangerous bumping. Might put video up if requested.

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I have just replicated the test tube experiment with methanol (1 carbon) and isopropanol (3 carbons). I simply heated a few mls of the alcohol in a test tube with a heat gun and lit the boiling vapor. Methanol buns clean with no yellow, isoprop is very yellow. I don't at the moment have ethanol (2 carbons) to try. When I stop the boiling by turning off the gun, the flame goes out. So this dude is probably using plain alcohol which is ethanol, but I can't say for sure until I try it.  If you want to do this, do put some pieces of smashed ceramic in the tube to stop dangerous bumping. Might put video up if requested.


Yes, as with all good scams, the trick is in the diversion, the earlier the diversion the more likely the success. By creating the mystery wrap, with the big unveiling, everyone would be focusing on the content of the electrical apparatus, and just assuming that the salt water is what he says it is, or most likely as would be intended, not think about the content of the water at all. All eyes and thoughts are on the mystery unfolded before their eyes, not the obvious bottle of water.
Simple fraud by deception and diversion.

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Oh,   but this one is Soooo easy Peasy

In Greece all vehicles MUST comply with Emissions standards.

here is a Snip from their Regulatory statute.

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Vehicle Technical Inspection : Vehicles registered in Greece undergo regular technical inspections to
certify their good condition and their environmental performance, in relation to exhaust fumes. These
inspections are carried out in 58 public and 137 private Vehicle Technical Inspection Centres. The legal
status of private centres has recently been equated to that of public centres, so they may now carry
out all kinds of inspections for all types of vehicles. The public centres’ equipment is being modernized
so that they can better fulfill their mission. Greece has a high number of road fatalities and such
actions are considered pivotal in dealing with this problem. The inclusion of motor-bikes in the vehicle
inspection scheme is currently being contemplated and should take place in the near future.
Appropriate control lanes are already being installed in inspection centres.

end Snip

Hook the scooter Up to the Exhaust gas analyzer Machine.
Or better yet , the test tube device  to the "Sniffer" .

Carbon Would definitely be in their Sampling analysis and there will be a print out .

one way or another... End of story !!

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I have another call scheduled for tomorrow ,I will ask for this report [perhaps suggest another Vid of this being done at the Gov't facility ]


 

 

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