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Author Topic: Bike runs on water 100 % - No Gasoline - Microwave Pulse Generator Water Split  (Read 93697 times)


Sergh

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to this:
https://overunity.com/16579/bike-runs-on-water-100-no-gasoline-microwave-pulse-generator-water-split/msg520217/#msg520217
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I have microwave diodes, not only Gunn but also IMPATT diodes, and complete generators at different frequencies. But it's not important...

 From the microwave electrolysis does not go. In any case, there is not enough microwave energy.

A very large energy is required to break down the water molecule from resonance. With this energy, water will turn into a hot plasma. But this doesn't suit us.

Therefore, in addition to microwave, it is necessary to help the water with the usual direct current. Or catalysts.

Watch this Zografos video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOLhzbZsAYA

 There is a piece of metal floating in the vial.
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For the operation of the device it is required the use of a metal alloy board which is consumed gradually and act as electromagnetic torch. By preliminary estimates the device seen need a Kgr of alloy for producing 1600 normal cubic meters of hydrogen. With energy content of hydrogen equal to 3,5 kWh / Nm ^ 3, the output 1600 Nm ^ 3 cubic meters of hydrogen corresponding to 3,5 x 1600 = 5600 kWh chemical-thermal energy. By using a single generator with a degree of efficiency of 30% with this production we can now produce 1680 kWh of electricity at a cost of metal of around 50 euros that is equal to 50/1680 = 0,03 € / kWh compared to 0,19 € / kWh  currently charged by Hellenic Public Power Company ( PPC)!
http://rexresearch.com/zogrifoselectrolysis/zogrifos.html
 
"Metal alloy board" = battery! Anode and cathode to outside?
Two thin plates of different metals, one on another, soldered together. For example, magnesium and copper.

In addition, water with salt does not conduct microwave. Microwave  can conduct through distilled water. But distilled water does not conduct current. If add in the distilled water a colloid, then it probably conducts both current and microwave. Metacolloid or metacolloid - can transport electric charge from one side of metall plate to another.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2018, 10:29:10 PM by Sergh »

ramset

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Well

I had spoken briefly with the inventor last year ,Due to suspicions raised here by fellows who felt the flame did not look correct [color indicated "other" things]

I asked him to run his motorcycle into one of the 167 emissions stations in his country to prove his Hydrogen claim [or no carbon fuel]

he wanted to give me his Lawyers phone number :o

that being said
we have the experience here of Li soap [EXTREMELY SMALL AMOUNTS]
cutting the temp where the water molecule disassociates..... in half.

this we played with in ICE's here at this forum .

maybe you should try some metal soap
  having read your recent comments and the patent you mentioned
I will be playing with this Li soap .

hopefully others will join in too

respectfully
Chet K

Sergh

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   I think that a large amount of hydrogen with water vapor and colloid particles can give such a colored flame. But i thinks that it does not matter.

  It is important that when applying small amount of microwave radiation on a test tube, then begins a violent reaction with a large number of bubbles. In official science, I did not find this.
They say that this is impossible.
 
Officially, some acceleration of chemical reactions  is possible only due to heating from microwave. But chemical effects trought resonant absorption is not found or insignificant.

 Zografos video with test tube does not show any heating.
The microwave generator powered from LM7805 linear regulator, the chip without cooling radiator.
This means that the maximum microwave power will be:
(5V from LM7805) x (0,2 Ampere without cooling) x (Gunn Diode efficiency 0.1 max)  = 0.1 Watt
« Last Edit: April 23, 2018, 08:45:14 PM by Sergh »

Sergh

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A russian patent in which the use of HF for the decomposition of water is declared. The HF oscillations comes from outside the cell through a capacitive coupling.
Inside the cell there are pairwise connected electrodes. These electrodes are not galvanically connected to external HF source. In addition, an external magnetic field is used.Declared not only the production of hydrogen but also the generation of electricity by rectification of oscillations from these electrodes.This is very similar to the demonstration model of Zografos with two small fans. The effect is obtained due to synchronization of rotational vibrations of water molecules.
Specific frequencies of HF are reported in the text.
https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2409704C1/en

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Capabilities allow the generator used to operate at a frequency of 0.1 MHz to 3.2 MHz.  From this condition for the experiments on the effects on the water chose two frequency groups: the first group with a deviation from the multiplicity calculation of the oscillation frequency to the actuating frequency of the first significant digit of hydrogen and oxygen to 5%, the second group with a deviation from the multiplicity of more than 5% (see. table).   The frequencies of the first group: 0.106 MHz, 0.315 MHz, 1.64 MHz, 2.5 MHz.   The electricity consumption for the preparation of 1 m 3 of hydrogen when exposed to these low frequencies.     The frequencies of the second group: 0.5 MHz, 0.7 MHz, 1.3 MHz.   Exposure to these frequencies less effectively.
To my thinking, this can not be so simple as described in the patent.HF usually does not decompose water. Although the declared power of 3.2 kWh per cubic meter of hydrogen is very high. Maybe at this power and at the declared frequencies something happens.