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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 216064 times)

SkyWatcher123

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #330 on: June 27, 2016, 08:25:57 AM »
Hi gravityblock, are you sure the sun is that far away, just looking at the pic you posted, sure seems closer than that.
peace love light

tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #331 on: June 27, 2016, 08:44:51 AM »
The rays from a sun which is 93 million miles away will produce parallel rays of light all over the earth.  Does the rays in the pic appear to be parallel?  No, thus the sun's distance as calculated on the globe model is wrong, and the crepuscular rays of light is evidence of the sun moving around the flat earth at ~3,000 miles away.  Once again, this is a no-brainer!

Gravock

stop spamming and get basic physics

your reasoning proof your stupidity  .... where is your standard model for flat earth ? or leave this forum

tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #332 on: June 27, 2016, 09:10:25 AM »
Hi gravityblock, are you sure the sun is that far away, just looking at the pic you posted, sure seems closer than that.
peace love light

yes with the proof of flatearthers the sun is 5 km above the flat earth ...
and every body can touch the sun

tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #333 on: June 27, 2016, 12:17:09 PM »
with your flat earth can you explain the vendeeglobe ?

http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/

can you explain the real time tracking of the vendeeglobe

http://tracking2012.vendeeglobe.org/fr/

without satelite can you explain the fonctioning of argos ?

can you calculate the speed of the sailing boats in the south pole ?

can you explain the reception of  the argos detress signal in the midle of pacific ocean without satelite ?

can you explain the internet reception in the sailing boats of the vendeeglobe without satelite ?

energia9

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #334 on: June 27, 2016, 02:41:53 PM »
1.  If there would be a flat earth It would be Night or daytime at the same time in all parts of the world
2. As Below so above: Bubble on water ,  Blow a soap bubble in the air,  Spherical,    Melt a little piece of metal , in molten state it will be spherical just like water in space.  Every small phenomenon reflects a larger one in this universe.   

3.And for the weaker ones :  If you dont believe your own eyes, just look up the conclusions of the smartest people of the world  :  Nikola tesla

tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #335 on: June 27, 2016, 02:55:14 PM »
flat earth map , what a crazy map !!
when I look at your crazy map  I think you never run out of your litle town or village

do you know south america ?

I run with my car from buenos aire to chile : it is not possible to be so large ! ( 3000 km in maximum )

also when you go from bolivia to tierra de fuego it is not possible to be so short ! ( the minimum is 5000 km )





tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #336 on: June 27, 2016, 03:37:46 PM »
GB why do you think satelite does not exist ?

why I can not receive internet with my cellphone  near a town ( romo ) ?

and why fabrice andre is receiving internet in the midle of nothing ( col de sarenne ) ?
with satelite or not with satelite ?

tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #337 on: June 27, 2016, 03:40:40 PM »
also presse tv is receiving tv from satelite or not from satelite ?

the antenna is pointing to the flat earth ? or pointing to the dome ?

TinselKoala

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #338 on: June 28, 2016, 02:34:38 AM »
The below quote is taken from the video description as found in my previous post.

"There is no southern pole star. What folks are seeing when they look south is a perspective produced counter rotation. For example: If you are at the north pole, polaris will be directly overhead and all the stars will be rotating around it - and the stars just above the horizon will do a big circle around you staying parallel to the horizon, right?... I don't know how much you know about perspective, but notice how the clouds will angle down towards YOUR horizon THE FURTHER AWAY FROM YOU THEY ARE. Keep this in mind. The further south you go... Polaris will get lower and lower in the northern sky FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. Let's say you go far enough south that Polaris is on your horizon... the surrounding stars that were rotating around you at the north pole would now be rising in the east and setting in the west. And if you look to the south, you will see a counter rotation DUE TO PERPSECTIVE. This is tough to understand, I get that. Think about it for a while..."

You photographing galaxies that are millions of light years away is an ignorant fantasy based on a fairy tale as told by NASA and TPTB!

Gravock

You are hilarious! Citing quotations from a video made by someone who is also completely ignorant about astronomy. You still have not explained the photo from the Canary Islands where TWO centers of rotation are shown, one CLOCKWISE and the other COUNTERCLOCKWISE at the same time. This is not an "illusion of perspective". It is what happens when you rotate a SPHERE and then map that rotation onto a flat surface like the plane of the image. Try it with an orange and your two hands.

TinselKoala

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #339 on: June 28, 2016, 02:39:20 AM »
Eratosthenes' model depends on the assumption that the earth is a globe and that the sun is far away and therefore produces parallel rays of light all over the earth.

Mainstream science has sought to explain away crepuscular rays of the sun (see first image below) that are extremely damaging to the heliocentric model, as just the result of a visual phenomenon known as linear perspective. The problem is... perspective can't explain these rays.  This video (second image below) shows that the very perspective they invoke to try and save the heliocentric model from these damaging crepuscular rays actually indicts the heliocentric model as a fraud

Gravock

ROFL ! For someone who uses the term "perspective" in his posts, you are remarkably ignorant and gullible. The Crespuscular rays are INDEED parallel, and what your image is showing is an illusion of perspective.  You continue to provide idiotic and incorrect "explanations" of your crazy theory about flat-earth, which are so easy to prove wrong it's not even challenging at all.
 
http://www.lonestardigital.com/Perspective_Correction/N_Digital_WA.jpg

I suppose you think those buildings are really leaning towards each other. Guess what: They are not, they are all parallel to each other and perpendicular to the ground JUST LIKE CREPUSCULAR RAYS actually are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography)

All you need to do is to get someone to stand in each of those spots where the rays hit the earth, and have them measure the angle to the Sun. You will find that they all _agree_, if the measurement is done at the same time, and report the same declination and right ascension for the Sun. Your theory is falsified continually.


TinselKoala

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #340 on: June 28, 2016, 02:48:43 AM »
Incidentally, those of use who have computerized German Equatorial telescope mounts can easily falsify your "flat earth sky dome" delusion for themselves. These mounts can be set to "track" objects in the sky, all the way around, during a 24 hour period. If they are tracking a star which is at the zenith at midnight, hence pointing straight up, they can continue to track this star as the globular Earth rotates and at NOON, they will be pointing STRAIGHT DOWN.  And at that exact same time, an observer in the opposite hemisphere at the corresponding latitude, where it is now night, tracking that same star, will see his telescope mount pointing STRAIGHT UP.  Hence, once again falsifying your "Sky dome" and "Flat Earth" delusions.

Qwert

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #341 on: June 29, 2016, 12:08:55 PM »
Just some simple questions to Gravoc.
Since the Earth is flat, how does it look like on the other side? Can you present some pictures of the other side? Maybe you have the picture of the EDGE of the FLAT EARTH? How wide (narrow) is the edge? What happens with airplanes on or near the edge, can they fly over the edge to get the other side of the flat Earth? Does the SUN fly over one flat surface, or visits also the other one? Does the flat earth contains one or more magnetic poles, and where are they located? If two, one of them must be underside of the flat earth, right? Some guys already mentioned this: what happens with the Sun on night hours? The Earth is the center of the Universe, and the Sun and other stars and all universe fly around the Earth, right?

citfta

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #342 on: June 29, 2016, 12:32:26 PM »
Someone already asked this question but I never saw an answer.  If I missed it please repost the answer.  How can the sun be shining brightly at high noon in North America and it be pitch dark in the middle of the night in Australia if the earth is a flat disk?  It is obvious the flouride added to our water supplies around the world have done a great job of destroying the thinking ability of humans.  It seems there are only a few left with the ability to use common sense.

I have not wasted my time reading this whole thread but I do have another question that may have already been answered.  What benefit is it to believe the earth is a flat disc?  Other than trying to prove the governments of this world will lie to us, why is there any reason to believe in a flat earth?  I mean most of us are pretty sure we are lied to regularly by our governments so why the big deal about a supposed flat earth theory?  I just don't see the point in believing something so foolish.

Respectfully,
Carroll

tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #343 on: June 29, 2016, 12:33:58 PM »
The Earth is the center of the Universe, and the Sun and other stars and all universe fly around the Earth, right?

why and how are they moving if the earth is flat ?
if we have a flat erath ... gravity is not working ... and we are waiting for a model ?
but the grave is ko for the moment !

Qwert

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #344 on: June 29, 2016, 02:37:06 PM »
why and how are they moving if the earth is flat ?
if we have a flat erath ... gravity is not working ... and we are waiting for a model ?
but the grave is ko for the moment !



Why, why, why... I don't know why; But Gravoc certainly knows.


Additional question(s) to Gravoc, or other flat-Earth-enthusiasts (f-E-es): Is it determined, where the edge of the flat Earth is? Is it in, or close to a certain city (cities), or on (around) a sea; in my opinion, it can be exactly determined. Have you heard about an expedition to the edge?


In this movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YQ0dMJEjsk [size=78%]at 8:20 starts a simulation which shows flat Earth and the Sun. On this flat earth a clear border of day/night is seen. But the author does not mention how that border is determined. Maybe some f-e-es here, on this site can explain this?
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