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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 96500 times)

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #585 on: August 27, 2017, 05:11:50 PM »
"bla bla bla"....

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But I DO see that the sun goes overhead during the day. It doesn’t circle around the face of a flat earth disc. This is where the flat-earthers TOTALLY lose credibility. They offer all KINDS of silly explanations as to how the sun circles overhead (rather than over and under) but every one of their explanations falls down. I’ve been on cruise ships, watched the sun rise and the sun set. It is a ball. It is the same size before it drops below the horizon line as  it is on the way down. When the cloud cover is heavy during the day but enough to let the sun shine through (barely) the sun is the same size in the sky at midday as it is at sunrise and sunset.
Every you-tube video that I’ve been advised to watch seems to start with a premise about what the spherical earth model teaches that is not what the spherical-earth model teaches; and then, they develop all kinds of ridiculous theories about why these models are wrong. But they haven’t got a clue what the spherical model really is. They attack straw men. And they lead many others into their confusion and resulting paranoia.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #586 on: August 28, 2017, 11:35:19 PM »
Here's another good kick in the balls to the globe model:  The double dropping away effect.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #587 on: August 29, 2017, 12:00:51 AM »

But I DO see that the sun goes overhead during the day. It doesn’t circle around the face
of a flat earth disc. This is where the flat-earthers TOTALLY lose credibility. They offer all
KINDS of silly explanations as to how the sun circles overhead (rather than over and under)
but every one of their explanations falls down. I’ve been on cruise ships, watched the sun
rise and the sun set. It is a ball. It is the same size before it drops below the horizon line
as  it is on the way down. When the cloud cover is heavy during the day but enough to let
the sun shine through (barely) the sun is the same size in the sky at midday as it is at
sunrise and sunset.

Every you-tube video that I’ve been advised to watch seems to start with a premise about
what the spherical earth model teaches that is not what the spherical-earth model teaches;
and then, they develop all kinds of ridiculous theories about why these models are wrong.
But they haven’t got a clue what the spherical model really is. They attack straw men. And
they lead many others into their confusion and resulting paranoia.

The ball worshipers compare the suns movement away, which is on a HIGH PLANE and
moving PARALLEL to the ground, to a car or train moving away on the same plane as the
observer.  There is a big difference and the two can not be compared as we will soon see.

The reason why the sun doesn't shrink, when observed from the ground, is because its height
in the air is about equal to the distance at which it starts to meet your visual horizon and vanish at.
Try putting in 3000 miles for height in a horizon calculator and you'll see what this means.

This video, WHY THE SUN DOESN'T SHRINK TO A DOT on the FLAT EARTH, demonstrates it
perfectly.  See image below for a quick reference.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #587 on: August 29, 2017, 12:00:51 AM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #588 on: August 29, 2017, 02:15:10 AM »
 (http://www.overunity.de/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif)   Re: Internationen-Sprach-Plattform  « Antwort #1 am: 28. August 2017, 22:59:19 Nachmittag »    http://www.portugaltours.com.pt/br/blog-viagens/20114/guimaraes.aspx
    Guimarães, o berço de Portugal       !
                       o-berco-de-portugal      !
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------                             
                        o-berco-de-portus calem ?
                       
                        o berço de Portus gal-es ?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------                           
                        o-berco-de-          calem  ?     
               
                        o berço  de            gal-es ?             
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http://eduardoamarantesantos.blogspot.pt/2012/09/tartessos-colonia-atlante-no-sul-de.html 
                               https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andaluzia

                                         berco berczo briga
                            Miro-briga Conim-briga Laco-briga

       Do " Fim do Mundo"(Perafita) ao COMECZO do MUNDO,La-BRIGA :

                        https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labruge
                       Castro Gales/Callaecii/Gallaecii/Caeltico/Celtico
        unica fortaleza em Portugal,unica fortaleza na Pensinsula IBERICA : oriundo ao MAR
                                                      como FAROL
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Hercules
                     (excepto "so" Farol :El Farol do/del Caudillo em La Corunha) 
vé é lé se ali,ao lado do castro: "ums falha/faixa geo-tectonica qqual da uma differenca de 9m-5m=4m de differenca en aaltitude !
Ver a "montanha" do castro e ver esta "montanha constituido/construido por pedras de granito,cortadas/formadas" deixe preguntar:
o castro de Sampaio tinha funczao dum pharol/farol ?
Vé-se so ainda a base do farol ?

 O historiador brasileiro Cândido Costa escreveu já em 1900: “Diodoro de Sicília (90-21 a.C.), 45 anos antes da Era Cristã, escreveu grande número de livros sobre os diversos povos do mundo; em seus escritos, designa claramente a América com o nome de ilha, porque ignorava sua extensão e configuração. Essa expressão de ilha é muitas vezes empregada por escritores da antigüidade para designarem um território qualquer

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Povos_ib%C3%A9ricos_pr%C3%A9-romanos
Pensa-se que a Península Ibérica era habitada inicialmente por povos autóctones, que vieram a ser conhecidos como iberos. Posteriormente, cerca de 1 000 a.C. ou antes, chegaram à região povos Indo-Europeus de origem celta, que coexistiram com os iberos habitando regiões distintas. A ideia de que, na meseta central, esses povos celtas se mesclaram-se com os povos iberos dando origem aos celtiberos está cada vez mais distante da realidad

Os geógrafos gregos deram o nome da Ibéria, provavelmente derivado do rio Ebro (Iberus), a todas as tribos instaladas na costa sueste. Avieno no poema Ode Marítima (século IV) relata as aventuras de um navegador grego nos finais do século VI a.C. que descreve a existência de várias etnias na costa meridional atlântica, que já praticavam a cultura megalítica e seriam, provavelmente, os responsáveis pelo comércio com o atlântico norte — os estrímnios e os cinetes (ou cónicos)

https://thoth3126.com.br/terra-de-ofir-o-rei-salomao-no-brasil/
Segundo Cândido Costa, em sua obra de 1900: “Num escrito de Aristóteles (De Mirab. Auscult. Cap. 84) diz-se que foi o receio de ver os colonos sacudirem o jugo da metrópole cartaginesa e prejudicarem o comércio da mãe pátria que levou o senado de Cartago a decretar pena de morte contra quem tentasse navegar para esta ilha. Aristóteles descreve também uma região fértil, abundantemente regada e coberta de floresta, que fora descoberta pelos cartagineses além do Atlântico (p. 115)
 A participação ampla dos fenícios no conhecimento das terras ocidentais explica a grande participação dos hebreus nas grandes navegações. Desde o tempo de Salomão, as casas de Hiram, deTiro, na Fenícia e do grande soberano hebreu se uniu de tal forma que a construção do Templo de Jerusalém foi feita por arquitetos e pedreiros fenícios, e as misteriosas viagens para descobrir ouro e madeiras para a construção do templo foram feitas conjunta

Este vasto conhecimento adquirido dos fenícios pelos hebreus  (n.T.: que os Cavaleiros Templários viriäam a descobrir no começo do século XII quando escavaram o Monte do Templo durante dez anos ininterruptos) sobre a ciência da navegação e da construção naval dos fenícios não passou desapercebido por alguns soberanos europeus à época da diáspora, especialmente D. Manuel, de Portugal.
 Em 1412 foi fundada a escola de Sagres, primeira academia portuguesa de navegação e construção naval.
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                                Portugal,
                     nesta época, tonara-se
                 o último reduto dos judeus na Europa,
 ( Ersatz fuer das "Gelobte Land,namens MOAB",dort wo der
erste Friedenshort "Jeru Shalom" errichtet worden war)
               with the JAZ-I-GO,mit der "ewigen Ruhe"
                                                      eternal R.I.P. 

assim como e principalmente dos Cavaleiros Templários quando houve a sua extinção em 1.314.
           ( first Castro Marim,later Tomar)

A proteção concedida pelos soberanos portugueses aos judeus e principalmente aos Cavaleiros Templários, visava declaradamente atrair os largos conhecimentos deles e dos judeus nas matemáticas, na geografia e na astronomia, (o principal navegador do cavaleiro Templário da Ordem de Cristo Pedro Álvares Cabral era um judeu) para calcar os grandes desenvolvimentos levados a cabo nas pesquisas náuticas para lançar Portugal como potência marítima mundial.  O conhecimento das terras do Brasil por Salomão e por Hiram (rei da Fenícia), ainda no século X a.C. conforme a explanação feita por Cândido Costa , é difícil de ser refutada

https://www.google.pt/search?client=firefox-b&biw=640&bih=894&q=13+himmelssoehne&oq=13+himmelssoehne&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1l2.23888.29149.0.30190.12.10.0.0.0.0.620.1650.0j6j1j5-1.8.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..4.1.171.8lOsRQ-3pFM

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

In diesen Schriften werden die Göttersöhne meist als Egregoroi (griech. „Wächter“) bezeichnet. Der Inhalt lässt sich etwa wie folgt zusammenfassen:
 Die Göttersöhne/Wächter steigen hinab in die Welt der Menschen.
Es sind 200 Wächter, ihre Anführer sind 20.
Shemichaza ist der Oberste.
Andere Anführer sind Baraq'el und Azazel.
Angetan von der Schönheit der Menschenfrauen haben sie Gemeinschaft mit ihnen.
Sie lehren die Menschenkinder verbotene Dinge und Himmelsgeheimnisse.
Die aus der Gemeinschaft mit Menschenfrauen gezeugten Kinder sind die Riesen, die Nephilim.
Die Nephilim sind riesig, fressen alles, Vieh und Mensch, und sind eine Bedrückung der Erde.
Shemichaza hat zwei Söhne, Ohajah und Hawajah.
Ohajah und Hawajah träumen: Ein Traum: eine riesige Steintafel. Alles wird ausgelöscht, bis auf vier Zeilen. Die eine Version: Die Tafel versinkt im Wasser. Die andere Version: Ein Engel kommt und löscht die Zeilen der Tafel, bis auf vier Zeilen, Worte oder auch Namen.
Der andere Traum: ein paradiesischer Garten mit zahlreichen Bäumen. Ein Engel kommt und haut alle Bäume um, bis auf einen mit drei Zweigen.
 
Die Träumer können die Träume nicht deuten. Ein Bote wird ausgesandt zu Henoch, dem Schreiber. Der Bote ist Mahawaj, Sohn des Wächters Baraq'el. Der macht eine weite Reise, denn Henoch ist nicht mehr in der Welt.
Henoch deutet die Träume: Alle Nephilim werden vernichtet werden, die Wächter werden den Untergang ihrer Kinder sehen. Die vier übrig gebliebenen Worte bzw. der Baum mit den drei Zweigen steht für Noach und seine drei Söhne.
Letzten Endes werden die Wächter gebunden bis zum Ende der Welt und ihre Nachkommen werden in der Sintflut vernichtet.

       So wurde die "Leg-Ende" interpretiert
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #589 on: August 29, 2017, 04:17:42 AM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #590 on: August 30, 2017, 03:12:29 AM »

http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/power.html


Excellent site and I added it to my bookmarks!  I'll be studying the pages of Gen-E-Sys II (Generated Energy Systems) in great detail...

Thank You,

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #592 on: August 31, 2017, 03:09:34 PM »
I havent read this thread; but have you talked anything about the geocentric model.

That wouldnt be as far fetched as that the earth is flat.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #593 on: August 31, 2017, 04:41:43 PM »
Here is another video to ponder....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPlNcJ_IC5w

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #594 on: August 31, 2017, 06:41:27 PM »
"FLAT EARTH NEWS - NASA CAN'T HIDE THE TRUTH"


Lol.an attempt to hide anything is a give-away

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #597 on: September 01, 2017, 12:41:54 AM »
rational numbers are 1/2d point coordinates definition
irrational numbers are 4/5..d coordinate-system construction relationship parameters,defining a body
like period(ic) numbers,too

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #598 on: September 01, 2017, 12:44:45 AM »
Here is another video to ponder....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPlNcJ_IC5w

Reference:  Time Crystals - Perpetual Motion Test Could Amend Theory of Time  (snapshots below)

Mainstream physicists are trying to build a perpetual motion machine that doesn't consume or produce energy by using "time crystals"!

Wilczek's equations indicate atoms can indeed form a regularly repeating lattice in time, returning to their initial arrangement only after discrete (rather than continuous) intervals, thereby breaking the symmetry of time.  Without consuming or producing energy, time crystals would be stable, in what physicists call their “ground state,” despite cyclical variations in structure that scientists say can be interpreted as perpetual motion.  Frank Wilczek is also a professor at MIT.

This appears to be similar in how our sun may be working on the flat earth! 

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #599 on: September 01, 2017, 01:06:29 AM »
rational numbers are 1/2d point coordinates definition
irrational numbers are 4/5..d coordinate-system construction relationship parameters,defining a body
like period(ic) numbers,too

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This may be helpful, thanks!

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