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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 216122 times)

John.K1

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #270 on: June 19, 2016, 11:36:38 AM »
I think , this guy has figured it out :)  He has a brain!!! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Jp_XCvVto

TinselKoala

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #271 on: June 19, 2016, 12:17:33 PM »
That's a CGI photo, LOL.  Now, show me a real time lapse video of the star trails.  I know they exist, for real...so why reference a fake CGI photo?  I hope you realize the star trails is proof for a rotating dome over a stationary round flat earth!  Good night...

Gravock

You are so wrong it's not even funny. Explain how a star trail image taken in the Southern Hemisphere-- say from South Australia -- shows a center of rotation in the constellation Octans, but one taken in the Northern Hemisphere shows a center of rotation around (very near) the star Polaris.

The image I posted (but removed because I considered that you don't even deserve to see it) is NOT CGI. Here is the link to the page where the image is reproduced, with details of how it was taken.
http://www.astropix.com/HTML/I_ASTROP/TRIPOD/TRIPOD2.HTM
http://www.astropix.com/IMAGES/I_ASTROP/TRIPOD/METEORST.JPG
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[size=-1]The straight diagonal streak in the upper left of this photo is a meteor. The curved streaks are the trails of stars that were recorded during the 5.5 hour time exposure on a fixed tripod with an 18mm f/3.5 lens at ISO 64.

Star trails from Teide Observatory on Tenerife in the Canary Islands:
http://www.twanight.org/newTWAN/photos.asp?ID=3003972
Explain that with your "rotating dome" fantasy. Oh.... right.... you'll say it's CGI, another fake photo. It's useless even to argue with you because your response to anything that refutes you is "it's fake", in spite of any and all evidence. But I'll keep doing it anyway, not because I think you'll ever change, but just to watch you continue to put your foot in your mouth over and over.
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[/size][/font]A long exposure photo sequence with an ultra wide-angle lens has captured nearly an entire night over the Teide Observatory on the high slopes of Mount Teide, Tenerife, Canary islands. The Earth rotation appears in form of the rotating sky above us. Long exposure night-time images capture this motion in form of star trails around the celestial poles. Here the north celestial pole is on the left, marked by star Polaris, only a degree away from the north direction of the Earth rotation axis. On the right end star trails over the southern horizon are curved around the southern celestial pole (under the horizon of this northern hemisphere location). Juan Carlos Casado, Starryearth.com

You really need to do some studying and learn some real astronomy,  instead of filling your brain with all that bullshit "Flat Earth" nonsense.

TinselKoala

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #272 on: June 19, 2016, 12:25:50 PM »
I think , this guy has figured it out :)  He has a brain!!! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Jp_XCvVto

A brain made of oatmeal?

No amount of scientific reasoning or evidence can affect that attitude.

AlienGrey

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #273 on: June 19, 2016, 01:36:19 PM »
A brain made of oatmeal?

No amount of scientific reasoning or evidence can affect that attitude.
The trouble is the idea was invented by Hitler's young Nazi's during the last WW  another disrupting idea was the Common market and globalisation  so much for the song the age of Aquarius. (happiness and understanding) all Paper hats of course.

conradelektro

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #274 on: June 19, 2016, 04:23:34 PM »
"Flat earth" is sooo old, it is "hollow earth":

http://www.crystalinks.com/hollowearth.html

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-hollow-earth-is-filled-with-giants-germans-and-a-little-sun

http://www.viewzone.com/hollowearth.html


Chosen ones can go to inner earth, "flat earthers" have no chance to be chosen!

I am not allowed to tell you whether I have been to inner earth, it is a secret.


Greetings, Conrad

tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #275 on: June 19, 2016, 04:45:55 PM »
the intention is to get this thread locked or removed. 
Gravock

yes this thread must be locked and removed

gravko arrête ton délire redescend sur terre ( plate , carré ,  en losange ... )

peux tu expliquer ou se trouve le centre de gravité de la terre plate ?

si l'on applique les lois de la gravite avec ta pseudo terre plate on devrait tous ramper comme des serpents
pour pouvoir se déplacer !

donc le modèle standard de la physique ne fonctionne pas avec ta pseudo terre plate
aussi avant de continuer avec ton delirium tremens de terre plate présente un modèle  mathématique
compatible avec tes croyances d'un idioties incommensurables qui dégradent considérablement le niveau
de ce forum !

hi ! harti can you do something for him ?

allcanadian

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #276 on: June 19, 2016, 06:08:25 PM »
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If logic and reason are your tools and is the ultimate equalizer, then why the need for physical threats as shown in the bold text above?  ROFLMAO!!!  I must be doing something right. [/size]  Intimidation and threats won't work with me!  You ballers really stoop low because you can't defend the globe and can't successfully refute the flat earth, so you resort to a cave man type of mentality.  ROFLMAO!  What ever floats your boat king kong (AC)...


If logic and reason are my tools then why would you think I would make a physical threat which I did not?. I was always implying that when persons debate an issue face to face the outcome is generally very different. It is very easy to hide behind a group of people such as a religion or a computer screen in this forum but justifying a belief in person with only the facts face to face is a very different story.


Imagine you and I were on a stage debating this issue in front of hundreds of real people, you can't honestly believe you would have any credibility could you?. The same goes for your cleric and while he may seem smart to his followers most any Canadian high school science student could tear apart his argument limb from limb making him look pretty stupid in reality. Authority does not define the truth reality does.


I'm just saying reality is very different than the political/religious BS many try to peddle on the internet.


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yes this thread must be locked and removed


I would strongly disagree because your implying we should just do away with any debate simply because you do not agree with the subject matter. I think most are just irritated because GB's debating skills seem to be superior to most here even if the subject matter is ridiculous. My theory is that if you believe something then at the very least you should be able to justify it to others... such as open debate.

Burying your problems in a hole is not a real solution. We should confront our own demons not run and hide under the bed. Will people run and hide when others say Free Energy is just a scam?, will you block real debate against free energy or act like a responsible adult and defend your beliefs?.



AC

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #277 on: June 19, 2016, 06:39:58 PM »
Gravock's "argument" boils down to "It's all faked" whenever anyone presents evidence against his claims. Whereas the "evidence" he presents in support is a mishmash of fails, misinterpretations and anecdotes and even outright lies. Show him images of stars in space.... it's fake, CGI. Astronauts: liars, every one of them from every country with a space program. Foucault Pendulum -- fake, little motors up there driving its rotation. Tell him about hundreds of thousands of computerized telescope mounts that can locate and track objects, software based on a spherical Earth.... they are all fake. Flights to and across the South Pole... fake, bunch of lies of course. How can you expect to actually have a debate under those circumstances? You could take him along with you in the Twin Otter on the rescue flight to the South Pole station and he'd explain it away by saying you did it all in some huge NASA simulator.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/06/emergency-rescue-launched-ill-worker-south-pole
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/06/16/a-rare-risky-mission-is-underway-to-rescue-sick-scientists-from-the-south-pole/

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #278 on: June 19, 2016, 06:43:10 PM »
It's difficult for me to believe that this topic is even up for "discussion".  ::)

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #279 on: June 19, 2016, 07:58:26 PM »
It's difficult for me to believe that this topic is even up for "discussion".  ::)

That's exactly what I said many pages back.  It does not really bode well for the future of humanity does it?  There are many college kids in my town (a college town) that believe this crap.  Very sad really.
I have tried talking to a few of them but it is always..."But my professor said..."
I usually end the discussion by saying that their professor is an idiot, Which, of course, is true and provable.

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allcanadian

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #280 on: June 19, 2016, 08:02:53 PM »
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It's difficult for me to believe that this topic is even up for "discussion".


I find it very easy to believe and very interesting. Let's do a thought experiment, let's imagine billions of people embraced GB's belief that the Earth is flat and was "Created" by intelligent design.


Then maybe these billions of people who believe may start dictating government policy "forcing" their beliefs on me and the people I know. They might slowly start re-writing all the textbooks forcing their beliefs on our children, they might teach all our children their beliefs without question and deny other beliefs, they may force us to comply with their policy or laws due to their beliefs. Maybe abortion is outlawed even when people are raped by psychopaths, maybe people will have to endure years of pain and suffering because their imaginary Creator believes no one should take a life under any circumstances. Maybe they will preach tolerance but in effect teach bigotry, racism and inclusion in their own beliefs.


Maybe they may tell me I should not question their beliefs in the Created Flat Earth because it upsets them even though I find the fact they are in effect forcing their beliefs on me every day through their own actions very disturbing and upsetting. All they while they claim to be benign when in fact, in reality, they may do great harm to others solely because they personally believe in a Created Flat Earth.


It is an interesting thought experiment isn't it?, that so many could conceivably believe in GB's imaginary Created Flat Earth or "dome of bliss" and the very real effects their beliefs could have on all of us. Very interesting and somehow very familiar to many of us, in fact not really that far fetched at all.



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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #281 on: June 19, 2016, 08:11:13 PM »
Such is the nature of the PsyOp.  They invariably reveal
the nearly unbelievable extent of gullibility which resides
in the minds of the masses. :'(

P.T. Barnum was absolutely correct. ::)

PsyOps are designed to evaluate the influence of Authority,
whether real or perceived, over the belief systems of the
targeted peoples. They are a test of Power over the Mind. :o

No, it does not bode well.  This deplorable "state of mind" has
been the goal of the Educational System unfortunately. :(

The War against Truth is getting hot.  Stand firm! 8)

AlienGrey

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #282 on: June 19, 2016, 08:45:51 PM »
Yeah! only one way to get to the 'inner earth you talk about is down the Bush Roth rabbit hole ! and the sad part is we have people with sick minds ruling the planet and in control of devices that want to annihilate the planet ;)

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #283 on: June 19, 2016, 09:51:49 PM »
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Such is the nature of the [/size]PsyOp[/size].  They invariably reveal[/size]the nearly unbelievable extent of gullibility which residesin the minds of the masses.


Here is another thought experiment, what if GB is acting?, what if he is a psychology grad student and this thread his thesis. However what could he be studying, observing, documenting?. I have seen many people with many unproven beliefs jump in and condemn GB displaying their true intolerant nature... could this be it?. It would seem to me many here who claim to be oppressed, judged or ridiculed have resorted to the carnivorous behavior we tend see in places like the U.S.A or Iran where they tend to eat their own.


As if to say you have no right to judge me in any way and I will not tolerate it. However it is perfectly acceptable for me to judge you in any way I please and GB has been judged. Intolerance is defined as the unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own and it is alive and well here my friends.


Me I like to stir the pot every now and then to see what happens and it has been stirred and that which came from the bottom seems to have a certain foul stench about it. Burn the witch, burn the witch, close the thread, close it now, LOL, thank you gentlemen for displaying your true colors for all to see.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #284 on: June 19, 2016, 10:32:43 PM »
Quote from: AllCanadian
... what if GB is acting?

Interesting question.  It is no coincidence that all participants
in government operations are called "Actors." :o

There is much deception and propaganda at the root of nearly
all governmental actions upon the World Stage;  particularly so
with PsyOps. ::)

You are awake with open eyes AC.  Congratulations! ;)

Many of the PsyOp plans include "false flag" events which are
violent and bloody.

The Psychopaths in power are getting very, very desperate.