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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 216130 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #210 on: May 08, 2016, 07:17:59 PM »
It is odd that from my geological location,i can watch the stars make an almost straight line trace over the period of night. One would think if i lived on a flat earth,the stars would at least show a trace of 1/2 a full circle during 12 hours of night.


Brad
Yeah.. and how is it arranged that it is the middle of the night where you are, at the same time it's the middle of the day where I am? How is it that the stars rise 4  minutes earlier from one night to the next, yet the moon rises 50 minutes later each night? And the 5 naked-eye-visible planets wander around on their own schedules? Is Gravock going to tell us that they are all projected by different programmable projectors, like something in a giant planetarium? Where is this huge, always working, projector located and how is it powered, who operates it, who built it, and why, I wonder? (NOT....)

Anybody who spends a good amount of time looking at the sky in a dark, clear location can see for themselves that we are located on a spinning ball that revolves around a distant sun, and the stars are a _lot_ further away than that sun. It's the simplest and most sensible model that explains what we see, and Gravock might be interested in reading up on the History of Astronomy to see the progression in observation and thought that has happened over the centuries.

But we know he won't do it.

Brad, can you see the Southern Cross and the constellation Octans from your location?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_pole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Octantis

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #211 on: May 08, 2016, 07:23:17 PM »
Wrong!

The glass and windows are all slightly reflective. 

If the back side of the flask is painted with silver or aluminium paint, more of the light will be reflected and the rainbow should be brighter (see images below and the reference link).  This clearly shows a mirror is essential in making rainbows.  More light being reflected equals a better and brighter rainbow.

Gravock

No, I am not wrong, and I have told you how you can make a _real_ mist rainbow indoors if you don't mind getting your floor wet. Any kid with a garden hose can do the same thing outdoors with sunlight.
You've presented a way using mirrors. There are other ways, and what you are doing now (saying the glass and windows slightly reflective) is called "Special Pleading". After all, the mist droplets are acting as mirrors of a kind too, but that's not what you meant when you first made your statement. Learn some optics, why don't you? I  know why -- because any _real_ physics knowledge will challenge what you (pretend to) believe and you can't meet that challenge.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #212 on: May 08, 2016, 07:33:21 PM »
Yeah.. and how is it arranged that it is the middle of the night where you are, at the same time it's the middle of the day where I am? How is it that the stars rise 4  minutes earlier from one night to the next, yet the moon rises 50 minutes later each night? And the 5 naked-eye-visible planets wander around on their own schedules? Is Gravock going to tell us that they are all projected by different programmable projectors, like something in a giant planetarium? Where is this huge, always working, projector located and how is it powered, who operates it, who built it, and why, I wonder? (NOT....)

Anybody who spends a good amount of time looking at the sky in a dark, clear location can see for themselves that we are located on a spinning ball that revolves around a distant sun, and the stars are a _lot_ further away than that sun. It's the simplest and most sensible model that explains what we see, and Gravock might be interested in reading up on the History of Astronomy to see the progression in observation and thought that has happened over the centuries.

But we know he won't do it.

Brad, can you see the Southern Cross and the constellation Octans from your location?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_pole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Octantis

Southern "Hemisphere" Constellations and the Southern Cross Explained by the flat earth model.  This has already been previously posted.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #213 on: May 08, 2016, 07:42:02 PM »
No, I am not wrong, and I have told you how you can make a _real_ mist rainbow indoors if you don't mind getting your floor wet. Any kid with a garden hose can do the same thing outdoors with sunlight.
You've presented a way using mirrors. There are other ways, and what you are doing now (saying the glass and windows slightly reflective) is called "Special Pleading". After all, the mist droplets are acting as mirrors of a kind too, but that's not what you meant when you first made your statement. Learn some optics, why don't you? I  know why -- because any _real_ physics knowledge will challenge what you (pretend to) believe and you can't meet that challenge.

Go ahead and try to make a rainbow indoors where there is no light being reflected by it's surrounding environment and we'll see if the mist droplets themselves are acting as tiny mirrors to form a rainbow.  No reflected light, equals no mirror, equals no rainbow.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #214 on: May 08, 2016, 07:48:25 PM »
what is this, some ruse to lower the perceptions of this website yet again?

how does one ignore the multitude of evidence alluding to spherical cosmic bodies in favor of an alternate theory that can be disproved as easily as taking a flight to the edge of Earth and photographing the boundary?

this flat earth misconception was put to rest ages ago and any resuscitation of the idea is in actuality done by those wishing to secretly 'troll' and make a joke of out any who would join the bandwagon. you can visit the flat earth forums and websites online and see they mainly consist of bored teenagers who get their jollies from stringing along gullible people.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #215 on: May 08, 2016, 07:50:36 PM »
what is this, some ruse to lower the perceptions of this website yet again?

how does one ignore the multitude of evidence alluding to spherical cosmic bodies in favor of an alternate theory that can be disproved as easily as taking a flight to the edge of Earth and photographing the boundary?

this flat earth misconception was put to rest ages ago and any resuscitation of the idea is in actuality done by those wishing to secretly 'troll' and make a joke of out any who would join the bandwagon. you can visit the flat earth forums and websites online and see they mainly consist of bored teenagers who get their jollies from stringing along gullible people.

Spam!

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #216 on: May 08, 2016, 08:02:27 PM »
Spam!

Gravock

Ah, so you are a Bored Teenager then?  That would explain quite a lot.  Why don't you do something constructive with your time?  Try reading some science books...maybe get a job mowing lawns for people.

How do I know FOR A FACT that you are just a Bored Teenager?  Why, I just read it on the internet so it has to be true...just like all of the other BS you post as "proof" which in reality was just a posting made by another Bored Teenager.

Maybe when you grow up, you will come to regret all of the time you wasted as a youth...when you could have been doing something worthwhile.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #217 on: May 08, 2016, 08:05:07 PM »
what is this, some ruse to lower the perceptions of this website yet again?

how does one ignore the multitude of evidence alluding to spherical cosmic bodies in favor of an alternate theory that can be disproved as easily as taking a flight to the edge of Earth and photographing the boundary?

this flat earth misconception was put to rest ages ago and any resuscitation of the idea is in actuality done by those wishing to secretly 'troll' and make a joke of out any who would join the bandwagon. you can visit the flat earth forums and websites online and see they mainly consist of bored teenagers who get their jollies from stringing along gullible people.

See?  Here is my proof that you are indeed a Bored Teenager.  End of story, case closed...no need for discussion.  I read it on the internet, it is true and everyone here now knows this as a fact.

I am glad we cleared this up.

Bill

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #218 on: May 08, 2016, 08:05:47 PM »
spam?

I'm basically asking you why hasn't someone literally caught a plane to this proposed edge of the planet. Why argue all of these logical points when one actually has the ability to see the truth with your own eyes, in person. I doubt it's because bringing this information to light would cause the entire world-navigating planet to reconstruct it's navigation strategy. Ships and Planes seem to arrive at their destinations just fine as it is. It would however remove the need for geosynchronous satellites, so that's cool I guess.

Doing my research, as you have, actually respecting the topic as much as I could bear, I realized there wasn't actually anyone who really believed it it. It was all a sham for kicks. I think you are all alone grav.

Surely you must understand the apprehension most of us have toward ingesting this information, being that it is so easily disprovable in a number of ways.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #219 on: May 08, 2016, 08:07:46 PM »
Quote from: GravityBlock
Quote from: Magneticitist
what is this, some ruse to lower the perceptions of this website yet again?

how does one ignore the multitude of evidence alluding to spherical cosmic bodies in favor of an alternate theory that can be disproved as easily as taking a flight to the edge of Earth and photographing the boundary?

this flat earth misconception was put to rest ages ago and any resuscitation of the idea is in actuality done by those wishing to secretly 'troll' and make a joke of out any who would join the bandwagon. you can visit the flat earth forums and websites online and see they mainly consist of bored teenagers who get their jollies from stringing along gullible people.


Spam!

Gravock

It would be tempting to presume that Gravity Block actually
believes what he posts in support of a Flat Earth.  But, when
his "proofs" are examined scientifically they are found to be
naught more than amateurish spoofs.  Ample illustration that
Gravity Block is simply a mere minion within the greater plot
of deception.

Gravity Block knows that he is promoting deception.  So then
one wonders what could possibly be his motive?

Ego.

Quote from: TinKoa to Gravity Block
...because any _real_ physics knowledge will challenge what you (pretend to) believe and you can't meet that challenge.

 
TinKoa has, once again, nailed it!

 

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #220 on: May 08, 2016, 08:08:25 PM »
Ah, so you are a Bored Teenager then?  That would explain quite a lot.  Why don't you do something constructive with your time?  Try reading some science books...maybe get a job mowing lawns for people.

How do I know FOR A FACT that you are just a Bored Teenager?  Why, I just read it on the internet so it has to be true...just like all of the other BS you post as "proof" which in reality was just a posting made by another bored teenager.

Maybe when you grow up, you will come to regret all of the time you wasted as a youth...when you could have been doing something worthwhile.

Bill

More Spam by the bored teenager bots!  You don't have a better argument to refute what is being posted?  Of course not, so spam is your only option at this time.

Gravock

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #221 on: May 08, 2016, 08:10:22 PM »
spam?

I'm basically asking you why hasn't someone literally caught a plane to this proposed edge of the planet. Why argue all of these logical points when one actually has the ability to see the truth with your own eyes, in person. I doubt it's because bringing this information to light would cause the entire world-navigating planet to reconstruct it's navigation strategy. Ships and Planes seem to arrive at their destinations just fine as it is. It would however remove the need for geosynchronous satellites, so that's cool I guess.

Doing my research, as you have, actually respecting the topic as much as I could bear, I realized there wasn't actually anyone who really believed it it. It was all a sham for kicks. I think you are all alone grav.

Surely you must understand the apprehension most of us have toward ingesting this information, being that it is so easily disprovable in a number of ways.

Gravock calls anything written by anyone that disagrees with him Spam.  He has totally redefined the word to suit his needs thereby allowing him to continue to ignore basic facts that are, as you said, easily observable.

Of course, no one else on the planet agree with his redefined definition but hey, that will not stop him from ignorantly plodding on using that word incorrectly.

Bill

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #222 on: May 08, 2016, 08:14:12 PM »
I'll meet you halfway. Though we have apparently been deceived as to the geometry of the planet we reside, one such as yourself should still be able to use the tools of math and technology to pin point where exactly our Earth 'ends'.  When you work out the length and width, and provide me a GPS coordinate, or even ballpark handwritten map of where I can personally travel to this edge, I promise to one day travel to this edge of Earth and film it in high definition in the presence of 10 credible witnesses. Fair?

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #223 on: May 08, 2016, 08:17:01 PM »

Spam!

Gravock


It would be tempting to presume that Gravity Block actually
believes what he posts in support of a Flat Earth.  But, when
his "proofs" are examined scientifically they are found to be
naught more than amateurish spoofs.  Ample illustration that
Gravity Block is simply a mere minion within the greater plot
of deception.

Gravity Block knows that he is promoting deception.  So then
one wonders what could possibly be his motive?

Ego.

TinKoa has, once again, nailed it.

No, I'm exposing a great deception, and in the upcoming days, an even greater deception is coming that is based on this current deception.  It is you who is being deceived.

1 Chronicles 16:30: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable."

Psalm 93:1: "Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ..."

Psalm 96:10: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ..."

Isaiah 45:18: "...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast..."

Gravock

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #224 on: May 08, 2016, 08:17:38 PM »
More Spam by the bored teenager bots!  You don't have a better argument to refute what is being posted?  Of course not, so spam is your only option at this time.

Gravock

Ah yes, the classic response of a Bored Teenager who, after being bombarded with scientific facts, now claims they were spam.  So, all of my logical and scientific responses were just spam...I see.  Everyone's scientific postings were all spam too I suppose?

How about the fact that the internet that you rely on so much to find junk postings to post as proof, and that you use to make your Bored Teenager rants here would not work the way it does if the world was flat?  Ha ha, the very fact that you are on the internet right now disproves all of your BS theories.

I am glad I thought of this.  You just busted yourself just by being here, ha ha!!!!

Bill