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Author Topic: Interesting free energy experiment.  (Read 17529 times)

Offline Cherryman

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2016, 07:56:34 AM »
Lidmotor has done a kind of replication.... of the SAME video


But he " forgot"  the flywheel .  : )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWuVUDjWGSo

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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2016, 10:04:05 AM »
Hi Cherryman,

I would question that video due to the fact of super capacitors .

I think most people have not fully understand what my project would do.

The drive motor would not rotate when the power is cut off due to one way bearing step up. In other words as the motor increase the flywheel rpm's and then is turn off, the flywheel goes into free spin without rotating the dc drive motor.

This is when power is pulled from the flywheel for a few seconds, at that moment the generator stops pulling power and kicks on the drive motor back up to the rpm's the flywheel was.

This also would make it more efficient then having a constant mechanical load from the drive motor while the flywheel spins.

Tom

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2016, 01:19:03 PM »
Perhaps stop trying to be a scientific  guru ,and just provide one example of any type of flywheel producing enery-as you claimed.
Cryptic talk and circle walking really go's no where.


Brad

Quite a paradox you just set up.
Here is a photo - no words.
Because like most of what I do - the rest is pure applied science - lots more.
Nothing cryptic about it.

Hope it satisfies you, since there is no changing what I am: you can watch it in "sign language". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vaeKI5yXnQ

Tom is on the "write" track. Having "been there"; wrong turns lay ahead and he will learn by "science".

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Offline tinman

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2016, 01:32:58 PM »






First up.you need to reduce the size of your picture's, as now the page has expanded 3 pages wide.

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Quite a paradox you just set up.

I set up no paradox-i asked you to provide an example of a flywheel producing energy.

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Here is a photo - no words.

This is your proof?  ::)

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Because like most of what I do - the rest is pure applied science - lots more.
Nothing cryptic about it.

Science says that a flywheel is an energy storage device--not an energy production device.
So i ask once again,are you going to provide proof to back up your claim that a flywheel is an energy production device?.

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Tom is on the "write" track. Having "been there"; wrong turns lay ahead and he will learn by "science".

Nothing cryptic you say?--->!!write!! track  ???
 
Yes,Tom will learn that science is correct,in stating that a flywheel is an energy storage device--not an energy production device.


Brad

Offline citfta

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2016, 01:39:02 PM »
TV,

 As Brad has asked please resize your picture.  You first have to edit your post and remove the picture.  Then you can use a picture conversion program to resize it and then reattach it to your post.  I like FPC (Free Photo Converter).  As the name says you can download it for free and it is easy to use.

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Offline Temporal Visitor

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2016, 01:51:52 PM »
First up.you need to reduce the size of your picture's, as now the page has expanded 3 pages wide.

I set up no paradox-i asked you to provide an example of a flywheel producing energy.

This is your proof?  ::)

Science says that a flywheel is an energy storage device--not an energy production device.
So i ask once again,are you going to provide proof to back up your claim that a flywheel is an energy production device?.

Nothing cryptic you say?--->!!write!! track  ???
 
Yes,Tom will learn that science is correct,in stating that a flywheel is an energy storage device--not an energy production device.


Brad

Sorry about the size. Perhaps you would teach me how to reduce the size? (I do not know how.)

Yes a paradox because:
Asking me to "stop trying to be ..." and at the same time "just provide one example ...." of what required much "scientific" work effort to achieve some measure of comprehension OF in a very logical order to be able to "provide" other would be guru's that which they did not figure out themselves.
 
To me it appears you are asking for fish and telling me you will not be satisfied with the flavor of the fish before you have even seen or tasted it.

No it is not "proof" and I did not write that it was, but it is evidence that I have done the work to be able to write about it. It is all science.

If you want further proof, absolute proof, it can be arranged. That science is not free.


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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2016, 01:59:27 PM »
TV,

 As Brad has asked please resize your picture.  You first have to edit your post and remove the picture.  Then you can use a picture conversion program to resize it and then reattach it to your post.  I like FPC (Free Photo Converter).  As the name says you can download it for free and it is easy to use.

Carroll

Hello Carrol,

Thanks for the tip. Found it after I removed the attachment. Could you please tell me the size that works with this site?

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Offline tinman

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2016, 02:04:27 PM »
author=Temporal Visitor link=topic=16561.msg482273#msg482273 date=1461844312]
 

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If you want further proof, absolute proof, it can be arranged. That science is not free.

Oh--i see
Enough said ;D

Brad

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2016, 02:21:11 PM »
Hi again TV,

In the News section of this forum there is a sticky about the size of pictures for this forum.  What it says basically is to keep pictures down to 1024 pixels wide at the most and recommends that for most pictures 800 pixels wide is sufficient.  There is also a tutorial in that thread for using Paint to resize your picture.  I think FPC is easier but whatever works for you is fine.  Thanks for being willing to do that.  Some on here just won't take the time or effort to make things easier for everyone.

Carroll

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2016, 03:59:29 PM »
Tinman,

Question: Where do you have the right to call other out while you have made claims that is questionable in the past like many of us.

This is a experiment, so I don't understand why you would add to these comments in a negative way.

I understand you like to post your stuff, but let others do the same, and if they don't work then really we all learn don't we?

A flywheel does have a secret energy that most can't see, as the inertia builds up to a maximum speed the atoms that hold the flywheel together explodes outward.

This is also based on the theory of the Clem's engine and Viktor Schauberger vortex implosion motor.

The most important part of this experiment is bringing it up to a high enough speed where the generator pulls enough energy out where the input is far less.

This is a good experiment to try, but I won't be able until I move back to Florida is a few months.

We all learn from building stuff, sometimes it's best to see what others have in mind then someone own opinions of how it should work.

" There  is 360degs to get to the top of the hill, as long you're in the right direction!"

Tom...

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2016, 04:42:53 PM »
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Tom...


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Question: Where do you have the right to call other out while you have made claims that is questionable in the past like many of us.

What claims are they Tom?.

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This is a experiment, so I don't understand why you would add to these comments in a negative way.

If you think my being honest is negative,then there is not much i can do about that.
TemperaVistitor made a claim,and i only asked that he would back up that claim. He said he could,but it would not be free--will cost me money. This i object to.

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I understand you like to post your stuff, but let others do the same, and if they don't work then really we all learn don't we?

I also like to try and save people from spending there money on something that has been proven many times not to work--the bug flywheel/motor/generator setup.

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A flywheel does have a secret energy that most can't see, as the inertia builds up to a maximum speed the atoms that hold the flywheel together explodes outward.

If the Atoms explode outwards,you have no flywheel any more.
You may be referring to !free electron's! ?,but the flywheel need be submersed in a magnetic field for that,and copper or silver is the best material for the job.

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The most important part of this experiment is bringing it up to a high enough speed where the generator pulls enough energy out where the input is far less.

The input will always exceed the mechanical output--that is a fact.
Every car has a flywheel,but there is always less HP at the wheels than there is at the motor-regardless of flywheel RPM.


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We all learn from building stuff, sometimes it's best to see what others have in mind then someone own opinions of how it should work.

Yes,it is always the best way to find out the truth. But remember,many 100s of people have tried this,and all have negative result's. Even science says the flywheel is an energy storing device--not an energy creating device.

I just feel that your time and money would be better spent on your electric bike project--that is an excellent  project--i loved it :). But as you say-my thoughts dont really count here--yours do.
So i wish you the best Tom--give it a shot.


Brad

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2016, 04:58:24 PM »
Tinman,

Are you saying the over 100 experiment with a flywheel design is just like my design and theory, I don't think so.

Most have not even try use my idea, so where does this one make it that same as others?

With my design of controlling input and output with a micro controller would be a far step ahead of what other have done.

I though you did make a claim, but off hand I don't know the details.

If I recall you did post your free energy on this forum, and claim the men in black came to your home.

I don't really know, but maybe you could explain it much better.

;-)




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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2016, 07:09:21 PM »
Sorry guys  but neither one of you is totally correct in your assumptions about flywheels.  I have done the exact same testing as Tommey is suggesting using a microprocessor to control the on and off times of the motor and load.  A couple of years ago I spent a few hundred hours working with that setup and adjusting the on and off times and other things to see if I could get more out than I put in.  I found the flywheel extended my run times by quite a bit but I did not see any OU.  So my conclusion was that the flywheel is very useful for making a more efficient system but I never saw more out of the total system than what I put in.  Maybe a larger flywheel would show something different or some other parameter change might make the difference.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Offline Kator01

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2016, 09:39:00 PM »
Hello,

look, here is the description of a basic experiment Halold Aspden described in his lecture No 30.

Read carefully and pay attention to some numbers


http://www.haroldaspden.com/lectures/30.htm


Regards

Kator01

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2016, 09:43:06 PM »
Hi Citfta,

Did you have a oneway  bearing that was able to speed up the flywheel and was able to free spin without moving the motor?

How big was your set up?

Tom...

 

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