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Author Topic: Interesting free energy experiment.  (Read 17531 times)

Online TommeyLReed

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2016, 03:17:14 PM »
Hi scratch,

Yes you got me there also, but wait.

What if you build this simple design with a twist of smarts.

What about using my idea where the motor is control to speed up the flywheel to store mechanical energy?

When the flywheel is up to speed it takes less energy to keep it there, while I believe it should be harder to slow down under a simple load.

Almost like a car going 100 mph and trying to stop it is a short distant. lots of energy stopping that large mass in a short time.

So, this is my experiment is to test this theory. If you energize the motor for a few seconds while at full speed of the flywheel, could you then turn off the motor and energize the generator for a longer time while using the less amount of energy to bring it the flywheel back up to speed?

Has anyone try that?

:-)


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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2016, 03:36:09 PM »
Hi scratch,

Yes you got me there also, but wait.

What if you build this simple design with a twist of smarts.

What about using my idea where the motor is control to speed up the flywheel to store mechanical energy?

When the flywheel is up to speed it takes less energy to keep it there, while I believe it should be harder to slow down under a simple load.

Almost like a car going 100 mph and trying to stop it is a short distant. lots of energy stopping that large mass in a short time.

So, this is my experiment is to test this theory. If you energize the motor for a few seconds while at full speed of the flywheel, could you then turn off the motor and energize the generator for a longer time while using the less amount of energy to bring it the flywheel back up to speed?

Has anyone try that?

:-)

Yes, myself included.
Extensively!

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2016, 03:40:31 PM »
Hi scratch,

Yes you got me there also, but wait.

What if you build this simple design with a twist of smarts.

What about using my idea where the motor is control to speed up the flywheel to store mechanical energy?

When the flywheel is up to speed it takes less energy to keep it there, while I believe it should be harder to slow down under a simple load.

Almost like a car going 100 mph and trying to stop it is a short distant. lots of energy stopping that large mass in a short time.

So, this is my experiment is to test this theory. If you energize the motor for a few seconds while at full speed of the flywheel, could you then turn off the motor and energize the generator for a longer time while using the less amount of energy to bring it the flywheel back up to speed?

Has anyone try that?

:-)

A flywheel is only an energy storage device-like a capacitor or battery.
There is only losses in a flywheel system like you propose. Those losses include belt friction,bearing friction and windage. I have already debunked the video you posted in your first post Tommy--can be seen on the ! debunk this! thread.


Brad.

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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2016, 03:49:45 PM »
A flywheel is only an energy storage device-like a capacitor or battery.
There is only losses in a flywheel system like you propose. Those losses include belt friction,bearing friction and windage. I have already debunked the video you posted in your first post Tommy--can be seen on the ! debunk this! thread.


Brad.

True in the way you would most likely use one. Not true in ALL cases.

Flywheels can and do generate "energy".

If they were not capable of it, then please explain what you propose to get around Nature manifesting Kinetic energy WITHIN ALL MATTER IN MOTION.

Please start with 1/2mv^2.

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2016, 04:11:18 PM »
True in the way you would most likely use one. Not true in ALL cases.

Flywheels can and do generate "energy".

If they were not capable of it, then please explain what you propose to get around Nature manifesting Kinetic energy WITHIN ALL MATTER IN MOTION.

Please start with 1/2mv^2.

Easy
Give one example of a flywheel(or any mass) that is set into motion without an energy input.

Brad

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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2016, 04:30:59 PM »
Easy
Give one example of a flywheel(or any mass) that is set into motion without an energy input.

Brad

Cute way to avoid the real question and easy to reply to; Answer is NONE.
Inanimate matter requires "energy" input to be come animated, nothing prevents you or I from animating matter.
Moreover, we each do it every day .... but don't even think about it.

Here is a cute answer: An avalanche.
Which you will have come back for, which will take us on a path that leads one place.
The source of "energy".
A hard pill for many.

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2016, 04:34:02 PM »
Easy
Give one example of a flywheel(or any mass) that is set into motion without an energy input.

Brad


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMKZqNE7OE  ;)

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2016, 04:37:10 PM »
Cute way to avoid the real question and easy to reply to; Answer is NONE.
Inanimate matter requires "energy" input to be come animated, nothing prevents you or I from animating matter.
Moreover, we each do it every day .... but don't even think about it.

Here is a cute answer: An avalanche.
Which you will have come back for, which will take us on a path that leads one place.
The source of "energy".
A hard pill for many.

An avalanche ??? Really.
You dont know the source of energy?
Gravity dear Watson.
I guess you will now try and explain how the potential energy was placed there in the first place :D

Brad

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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2016, 04:44:03 PM »
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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2016, 04:44:41 PM »
Hi All,

What is a flywheel?

A flywheel act like a capacitor, but more efficient like a mechanical horse.

They are use in most engine and even power stations to help keeps energy at a constant.

They also are large mass that do have a light drag, but with magnet bearings that could be solve.

Try stopping a train while it's moving, with the mass being so great they take miles to stop.

Tom


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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 05:25:59 PM »
An avalanche ??? Really.
You dont know the source of energy?
Gravity dear Watson.
I guess you will now try and explain how the potential energy was placed there in the first place :D

Brad

Besides missing the "Answer is NONE" and what followed, you guessed wrong.

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2016, 06:18:05 AM »
Besides missing the "Answer is NONE" and what followed, you guessed wrong.

Perhaps stop trying to be a scientific  guru ,and just provide one example of any type of flywheel producing enery-as you claimed.
Cryptic talk and circle walking really go's no where.


Brad

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2016, 06:25:28 AM »
Hi All,

What is a flywheel?

A flywheel act like a capacitor, but more efficient like a mechanical horse.

They are use in most engine and even power stations to help keeps energy at a constant.

They also are large mass that do have a light drag, but with magnet bearings that could be solve.

Try stopping a train while it's moving, with the mass being so great they take miles to stop.

Tom

The energy dissipated to stop the train,will be the same amount that it took to get the train up to speed in the first place-minus losses such as wind drag,wheel and bearing friction,and heat dissipation-including that from the engine it self


Brad.

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2016, 07:31:55 AM »
Wish you the best with your flywheel experiments Tommey. ConVoiLon has done some flywheel experiments that I think are interesting and genuine. I think his experiments show that flywheels have more use then we currently know about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvhwEDeEp18

 

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