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Author Topic: Interesting free energy experiment.  (Read 17530 times)

Offline TommeyLReed

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Interesting free energy experiment.
« on: April 26, 2016, 03:53:16 PM »
Hi All,

I found this video today and maybe this would be a experiment I will try.

What do you all think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAseG7z_GQo


Tom.

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Offline pomodoro

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2016, 04:59:35 PM »
Come on Tommey, surely, you can't be that gullible!  Germany and Italy working together, now that sounds like a horrible history repeating itself.  ;D  It can only  result in pain. Contact the chap and see what he wants..

Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2016, 05:40:07 PM »
Hi pomo,

I thought it would be interesting in making a simple version with a dc motor and a low rpm hub motor as a dc generator.

This way you can show better input vs output of watts.

The flywheel could be a weight lifter 45lb weight that anyone can get from Walmart.

This I can do in a few months after my move to Florida, just a thought.

Tom



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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2016, 05:56:03 PM »
Hi All,

I will explain how the experiment should be ran.

The dc motor is powered by 48v dc batteries as the speed increase no power is being pulled from the 48v hub generator.

When the dc motor reaches top speed of about 3000 rpm's, a micro controller takes over.

What the controller does is turn off the dc motor and allow power to be pulled from the generator for a few seconds or what ever timing is needed to make it the most efficient to recharge battery bank.

The flywheel acts a mechanical capacitor that store inertia.

Then the dc motor kicks back on while the generator goes into free spin and cycle off and on again.

Tom.


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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2016, 06:05:51 PM »
Could you use a couple of secondhand car starter motors at £10 each?

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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2016, 06:30:01 PM »
Hi Paul,

I have most of the parts like the motor and micro controllers chips I can program, I will need to get another 1000w hub motor that will cost about $200.00 and 45lb weight.

The rest is just labor and small parts.


Tom...

Offline mscoffman

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2016, 07:39:05 PM »
Tommy,

I really like the youtube video. Very simple and straight forward. I doubt that there is
any way to prove operation over the internet but this comes as close as I have seen.
One thing is a little funky is the fact that his power tools have no AC plugs on their
cables!

The German motor painter gold is probably a high efficiency Siemens motor. High
efficiency AC motors are usually painted that gold color. One might be able to get even
higher efficiency by running a 240Vac/220Vac motor on 120Vac. More recent date code
motors are even more efficient then older motors with similar ID's. The most recent
Siemens H.E. AC motors are wound with copper tape rather then wire.

A good source of a balanced flywheel is spare parts is from exercise equipment like an
inplace bicycle. They have 40 pound flywheels. I was planning a similar setup and I wanted
to use two such flywheels. I found that a new bench-mount buffer-wheel 3600RPM grinder
could be used as the bearing pillow block assembly by mounting one flywheel on each side of the
grinders shafts and then ignoring the grinder's motor. Pulleys on each inside shaft would transfer
power. A good source for an efficient 96 VDC generator is a new spare DC Treadmill replacement
motors.  I kind of like the concept of using toothed rubber belts like they use on some motorcycles
rather than a chain drive as it keeps components mechanically synchronized but would not require
oil for lubrication.

Just throwing out some ides that I've looked at.



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Offline Cherryman

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2016, 08:18:29 PM »

Build it Tommy ! That would be great !!

In my humble opinion Two things at work here..


Timing:  The rubber belts give "play" in timing and (de)synchronizing  As they are not a fixed dimension, the rubber is able to breath... aka live..aka wave..


Relative motion: The relative rotation of any inertial attractive mass is a matter of dimension

Offline Newton II

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2016, 05:13:01 AM »
I would like to know one thing.

If  O/P is more than I/P in that setup,  why do we  need motor and generator?  One wheel on the left,  another wheel on the right with a huge flywheel  in between connected to both wheels by belt arrangement should make a perpetual device!   because  as I guess energy is created  in that setup by flywheel only!  Standard motor and standard  generator are built conforming to conservation law.


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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2016, 11:12:12 AM »
Hi Newton,

Dc motor like rpms, so if you run the motor at higher speeds you will use less energy to keep it running.

Hub motors only have a limited speed due to the fact so many pulse can take up lots of energy in a single rotation.

This is another reason why a 4:1 ratio is needed.

The real trick is to have a timing circuit using a micro controller to allow both input&output so when the generator pulls energy it is not while the dc motor is on.

Something like this:


1) motor on---generator off = input watts
2) flywheel increase speed  =no load
3) motor off---generator on = charging watts
4) flywheel decrease speed = load

1)motor on---generator off = input watts
2) flywheel increase speed  =no load
3) motor off---generator on = charging watts
4) flywheel decrease speed = load

And so on.

Tom

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2016, 11:42:38 AM »
I would like to know one thing.

If  O/P is more than I/P in that setup,  why do we  need motor and generator?  One wheel on the left,  another wheel on the right with a huge flywheel  in between connected to both wheels by belt arrangement should make a perpetual device!   because  as I guess energy is created  in that setup by flywheel only!  Standard motor and standard  generator are built conforming to conservation law.

Simple answer: To animate inanimate solid matter, and maintain VELOCITY.

You "guess" correctly. "Energy" can be generated, and is "created" upon acceleration of matter.
Standard motors and generators are fine AS IS. Some are better than others for different designs.

You can read more about it (older work) here: http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/

My latest work is "light years" past this and anything shown on that website. Simple truth that many will deny.

BTW: Tommey, you are invited.

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Offline scratchrobot

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2016, 12:16:43 PM »
Imagine how many battery's you can hide in that blue container, enough to drive a tesla for 100 miles!


I don't think you can continue to experimenting in heaven so don't waste your time replicating a YouTube free energy video ;D


Regards

Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2016, 12:45:12 PM »
Hi scratch,

How can someone waste their time if they love building stuff?


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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2016, 12:46:46 PM »
Imagine how many battery's you can hide in that blue container, enough to drive a tesla for 100 miles!


I don't think you can continue to experimenting in heaven so don't waste your time replicating a YouTube free energy video ;D


Regards

You are right, thanks because I forgot to mention that video. What is shown in that video goes against every experiment done by
myself. Something is not "write" with that video, in reality.
Tom is correct that the motor must not be connected when the generator is generating.
I, and another have already built the boards to do the switching and a lot more: but there are far better ways to go.
Lot's of batteries inside: probably so.

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Re: Interesting free energy experiment.
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2016, 02:06:28 PM »
Hi scratch,

How can someone waste their time if they love building stuff?


You got me there, enjoy building your stuff but why not build something useful.
Why would someone build a motor driving a generator?

 

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